FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #3

[Myserty64]

You can google Orlando sentinel and read the whole article. However this got my attention. please read carefully.

Orlando police Lt. John O'Grady, who heads the agency's violent-crimes section, said investigators have pored over more than 1,000 leads. Those leads have included calls from as far away as Australia, anonymous tips with Global Positioning System coordinates, and leads from jailhouse informants and psychics.

He said four different teams of homicide and missing-persons detectives have independently reviewed the case, re-interviewed the woman's boyfriend, ex-boyfriend and other acquaintances. They have found no indication of stalking or bad relations with anyone, O'Grady said.

Police have polygraphed witnesses, visited areas near the woman's home that have been unearthed during recent construction and compared leads with state and federal authorities.

"The most frustrating thing for a detective is a whodunnit," O'Grady said. "We don't have a body, and we don't have a suspect identified."

And she may still be alive.

Detectives theorize that the woman was either abducted while running an errand the night of Jan. 23 or the next morning on the way to work, he said.

The woman's missing belongings -- her identification, phone and credit cards -- have not been used, O'Grady said. But he remains hopeful that the video will lead to the tip that will solve the case.

 

[leftcoast]

Mystery

thanks again for that Video. I was a bit turned around. The video on Greta's was hard to follow

Tell me if you agree

I am convinced that Jk's 2004 Malibu had its' lights on when the car was parked. However, it is possible that type of car always has "day lights" on.

I also noticed that the background around her car was very dark, but, yet, the apartment complex appeared to be lit. Am I seeing things?

It appears that video came from the poolhouse, and possibly either inside or lower than the other video.

I am convinced that the 'suspect" never lived at that complex. I think it was just a dumping point.

It sure is good to hear that detectives are working this case.

I really was losing hope.

I still think that video should have been released a long time ago. For leads, to help the family

I have a good feeling about this case finally getting solved.

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[Myserty64]

I note the points you have made left.
I don't know that model car at all but I see the 'light' you are referring to.

I agree the video should have been released a longtime back.
I'm sure you mentioned a while back this case needs some cold case detectives. I'm pleased though that 'fresh eyes' having been going over the case.
To be fair it appears to me LE have covered all the bases especially with regard to family, friends and current and ex-boyfriends.

Left, do you think JK is in the immediate area?

 

[Myserty64]

Left, you don't have tunnel vision:

Detectives theorize that the woman was either abducted while running an errand the night of Jan. 23 or the next morning on the way to work, he said.

Investigators have always kept the time frame from 10pm on the Monday night open. They must have a reason for this.

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[Myserty64]

Left, you don't have tunnel vision:

Detectives theorize that the woman was either abducted while running an errand the night of Jan. 23 or the next morning on the way to work, he said.

Investigators have always kept the time frame from 10pm on the Monday night open. They must have a reason for this.

I don't see too much delay when the suspect dropped the car. He seemed to know which way he wanted to walk too. Can I suggest he walking with determination (no hesitating).

 

[leftcoast]

I note the points you have made left.
I don't know that model car at all but I see the 'light' you are referring to.

I agree the video should have been released a longtime back.
I'm sure you mentioned a while back this case needs some cold case detectives. I'm pleased though that 'fresh eyes' having been going over the case.
To be fair it appears to me LE have covered all the bases especially with regard to family, friends and current and ex-boyfriends.

Left, do you think JK is in the immediate area?

Thanks for the comments

I do feel that LE has covered people JK knew and her family knew.

I get the feeling whomever is responsible was an acquaintance, not an immediate family member, etc. or else they would have been recognized in that infamous picture.

Obviously, one could only speculate, but, it is against the odds that JK is still alive. HOwever, I am hoping for a miracle.

I definitely think the perp. is from the area, and has been under the nose of LE, meaning his name has been called in. This is normally the case.

I think the suspect was eliminated erroneously early on, and hopefully the cold case guys and gals will see him in a new light. Plus, people may come forward with the new information, he may have broken up with a girlfriend, etc. So, I would think this case is going to be solved.

However, I don't even want to think about anything else, if you know what I mean.

I just can't believe the evil out there. I've experienced it first hand, and the 'evil" appear like you and I, regular people. that is what is scary.

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[curves]

Wow! I've been checking this thead everyday hoping for something new. What fantastic news. Fingers crossed for tips and a quick resolution!

 

[Myserty64]

Yes curves, all fingers crossed. I think it's now or never for this case.

 

[Myserty64]

You make a good point about evil left. The real evil people don't have horns coming out of their head that's for sure.

Most serial killers look like they could be the guy next door.
We have to count our blessings that us or our loved ones never cross pathes with any of these people.

The scariest one for mine was the doctor in England who killed dozens of his patients. None of them had a chance.

 

[UK Sleuth]

Left

I have done some digging and on the 2005 model it states that the Malibu has 'Day running lights'

Im not too hot on cars particularly US ones but this might suggest lights come on automatically.

Look under the aerodynamics and exterior bit.

http://www.automotive.com/2005/12/chevrolet/malibu/specifications/index.html


Of course it could still be night time!!!

 

[UM&AMWfan]

They should have released this long ago but the quality of the video is awful.

I saw the video on Greta and the car can only be seen from a distance and it's just a small fuzzy object.

All you can see is the small shape of the car parking then reversing and parking the car again to make sure it's straight.

The video is so poor that I don't see any way they could get any kind of pic of the driver of the car from the video.

 

[leftcoast]

Left

I have done some digging and on the 2005 model it states that the Malibu has 'Day running lights'

Im not too hot on cars particularly US ones but this might suggest lights come on automatically.

Look under the aerodynamics and exterior bit.

http://www.automotive.com/2005/12/chevrolet/malibu/specifications/index.html


Of course it could still be night time!!!

thanks UK

I realize that it was probably noon.

I just don't want LE to put on blinders, and to eliminate people based solely on a certain time, etc.

People should be asked for alibi's from the time JK talked to Rob at 10pm, to the time the car was parked at noon the next day, and then some.

I don't think LE should eliminate any possibility, including the suspect doing a favor and dumping the car. etc.

Let's face it., We all thought the same thing. The POI parked that car, walked around the fence, and was captured on video. And probably acted alone. Otherwise, someone would have pulled next to him, and picked him up. Don't ya think?

Here's the downside to holding onto that video

What if that "suspect" saw the video, got scared and moved to another city, country., etc. Now, it will be harder to find him, and he could have moved his relatives with him, who just might be potential witnesses or suspected something.

I don't think anyone should eliminate any possibility, and that includes an acquaintance from JK's old apartment, ex-boyfriends of some of her friends, ex college friends, people from work, the complex,etc. Just because he isn't recognized by friends, doesnt' mean JK didn't know this suspect.

I agree with the KEsse's, this video should have been released sooner, I say last summer, at the latest.

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[Myserty64]

Here is more info that is now in the public arena.

Police have forensic evidence from Jennifers car but it doesn't match information stored in data bases.

Hopefully it's just a matter of time but what if the perpetrator is living outside of the USA. In other words he has gone back to where he came from.

 

[leftcoast]

Here is more info that is now in the public arena.

Police have forensic evidence from Jennifers car but it doesn't match information stored in data bases.

Hopefully it's just a matter of time but what if the perpetrator is living outside of the USA. In other words he has gone back to where he came from.

Mystery"

How does LE know for certain the forensic evidence is from the suspect?

So, he either hasn't been arrested, or if it is DNA, he wasn't required to have a DNA sample in CODIS.

thanks

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ps if LE has forensic evidence. All they need to do is ask for fingerprint and/or DNA samples from their top suspects? right? they must have a top 5 list in this case.

 

[Enrique Sparta]

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW

FINALLY. It's nice to have something new on this case you know? Even if it's still a long shot identifying the suspect. I'm tired of writing POI and "Person of Interest" we all knew he was a SUSPECT all along.

I wonder if my email and this entire thread and all of you helped bring this about. I didn't tell anybody but about a month ago I emailed the Orlando PD asking for some updates on the case. I mentioned that it's obvious they have more footage to connect the suspect. Obviously I knew they wouldn't discuss the case but I also mentioned and linked here at websleuths the big thread and all the intelligent folks talking about the JK case. He did email back mentioning they can't talk about it blah blah but that the websleuths thread was pretty itneresting, good points, yeah the case is cold etc etc

i'll have to look at this video and read everybody's comments. Ciao!

 

[Enrique Sparta]

Great News"

I caught Greta tonight and was able to tape the show. I just started watching the tape, over and over again.

It has been what I have said from day one. LE does have evidence which proves that the person who parked JK's car is the same person who walked past that camera. It was just logical reasoning.


Like I said, I have a copy of Greta. I noticed the following about the video.

The car goes by the second camera which is focused on the pool, and the driveway where the car is parked.

I noticed the time on the camera appears to be 12:56 or so. Then, he starts to walk around the pool at 12:59 or so. So, there is three minutes missing.

did the SUSPECT wipe down the car during this period of time?

LE did not release the video of the person who supposedly pulled in, then backed up, and then pulled in again.


Ya know, we all figured this out last summer.

Why didn't LE just say, Hey, we know this guy may be involved, rather than a person of interest.

Barbara JOnes said this is standard, and they were hoping the POI would admit to walking past the pool, and then that LE would prove he also parked the car.

I hate to pat myself on the back, but, that is exactly what I said about this case. I also said that LE must have video of the POI parking that car. Otherwise, how would they know he was a person of interest?

Anyway, this is good news. I'm glad that LE is not letting this case simply go by the wayside.

These past months, we have speculated, and we were right about the POI being on film parking that car. I don't understand why LE would wait over one year to release this information.

Now, that LE had admitted to what we speculated here since last summer, let's get this dirtbag off the street.

I asked a few months ago for LE to release more information, to release the proof the POI parked the car, etc. Thanks for releasing the information. Like I said, why not show your hand, and see what happens.

Plus, LE still hasn't released the video of the car actually being parked. So, they are still holding back some information, which is fine. But, at least now people may call in this dirtbag now that they know he is the one who parked JK's car and not somebody just walking by.

I'll analyze the tape more and add. I am just happy this case is moving forward.

You all know what I want next, but, I won't mention it, because nobody wants to hear it anymore

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Good job Orlando PD.

Also, ORlando PD is going over the list of names called in to make certain they didn't miss someone the first time. Another idea mentioned here.

ORlando PD is also using new detectives, hoping "new" eyes will get a different look. yet another idea mentioned on websleuths .

great post. yeah if they held back this video footage because they thought maybe the suspect would admit walking by the pool, that's a retarded strategy. even if the suspect is a complete fool, he/she is not gonna fall for that when they know damn well they were in that car and the released still photos were HORRIBLE. The suspect would then have to say why they were in that complex and they're already guilty.

anyways i put some of your post in bold leftcoast, check out my post right above this one. sounds like lots of intelligent discussion may have given the Orlando PD a jumpstart. Props to them for releasing more info. They could've just been stubborn and not done anything.

 

[Enrique Sparta]

Here's my point

Why does the POI stick out in white while walking around the pool. If it is truly light out, doesn't everything appear light?

The POI being tracked around that pool is just odd, that his clothes would show up so obviously in a dark background. Why?

Plus, remember, how we debated in the original pictures were truly dark, and that LE had brightened them?

Another argument. Look at the photos of JK's car on the website. It is obviously daytime. Sure, the video is poor, but it just doesn't look like daytime to me.

Am I being stubborn or tunnel visioned? Please give me your honest opinion?

left

No not at all. You said yourself, you still think the abduction likely took place about 8 in the morning when JK was leaving for work or on her way to work. But you still have to look at other possibilities. not really stubborn. i wasn't a big fan of the nighttime abduction until the whole "when did she text her bf" thing but you HAVE to keep the time when she hung up the phone (about 10 pm) until 8 AM as open. one thing about the headlights, not sure if they were on or not but if it was overcast that day, it's possible the headlights would be on in the daytime. if they're automatic (and so many cars now are) then they go on even when you don't need them on cloudy days, etc.

 

[Enrique Sparta]

one point about the "nighttime abduction" theory. it can't be thrown out, no way, however i have hard time believing she would've been running an errand that night, i believe her bf that rob allen guy, said she was real tired (makes sense after the vacation and going straight to work) and in bed. it starts there, after that conversation but i don't think she left. rather if it was a nighttime abductio or earlier than say when she normally would be leaving for work, somebody came to her into her apartment. leftcoast is right that that entire complex she lived in should've been a crime scene. lots of construction being done, not a lot of people living there at the time, she had been outta town, certainly somebody could have gotten a key to get in her place. i really think somebody associated with the Mosaic place may be the one, be it somebody who lives there too or the owner/manager or a friend/family member/acquaintance of a nearby tenant or the owner/manager. certainly she could've been abducted in the middle of the night. it was probably a mistake for JK's parents to call her landlord and tell her she was missing, wouldn't it have been better to surprise everyone? Easy to say now. the timing of the car being dropped off is interesting too. Suppose "the suspect(s)" were notified in some way that people were on to them, that people were looking for Jennifer, and so they dumped the car down the street at another complex. that would buy them time and make it seem as if JK had left for work.

 

[leftcoast]

Hey Enrique

Good job emailing the Orlando PD.

One thing, I did view a local broadcast on the web, and it appears that the Kesse's had to "beg" Orlando PD to release that video.

Supposedly, that video was known to the Kesse's for over a year, and the Orlando PD mistakenly issued it to the media.

The media did not publish it per request from OrlandO PD.

But, Drew and JOyce KEsse finally demanded ORlando PD release that video. It sounds like Orlando PD was against it.

I agree with the Kesse's. Now, everyone knows JK was abducted, it wasn't rob, etc.

We all said the right things. Not one person tried to blame Rob, or act as if JK took off. Sure, Rob should be looked at, but, now we know for sure what time the car was dumped, and it doesn't look like Rob or anyone the Kesse's know.

I think this case is close. That dirtbag is going to get caught soon.

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[leftcoast]

Reviewing the tape

I went back and reviewed the tape from Greta.

the car appear to start parking at about 12:56.41, or 12:58.41. My interpretation is that it is 12:56.41, but it is a little blurry.

anyway, the tape shows him pulling in, then backing up, the lights do appear to be on, and then pulling in again.

He definitely sits in that car until 12:59.41.

So, he either sits in the car for about one minute, or about three minutes.

Remember, it is not a continuous tape. You can actually see LE hit the start arrow when the suspect leaves the car.

Either way, he has time to gather his stuff, and possibly wipe down the interior or whatever, maybe even determine he is a dirtbag.

AS for night or day.

It does appear to be day, just a horrible, dark camera.

If you think about it, at night, would you expect so many open parking places?

Anyway, I'm just glad LE is not going to let this guy get away with this.

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