FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #5

[leftcoast]

The Kesses stayed at Jenn's condo. I think, they took possession almost right away. The laptop, if there, and LE had Jenn's could belong to the Kesses.

True. However, supposedly, the Kesse's set up the room the way JK left it, so that Greta's photographers could re-enact the way Jk's room was left.

Good thought about maybe it being the parents. If it is a laptop, one does have to wonder. WAs it there before JK vanished, or is it the Kesse's?

Either way, it tells me the condo was probably not processed. Wouldn't CSI have confiscated the clothes JK was last known to be wearing on Monday? I know I would have.

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[SeriouslySearching]

What has happened to the Condo since her disappearance? Did the Kesses get rid of it too...like they did the car?

If they moved everything out of her condo, these are things that could have been thrown away (Boxes, receipts, etc.)

I think we are beginning to realize the full scope of why this investigation stalled and the actual magnitude of mistakes they have made. If this is the case, the Florida State Attorney General's Office could step in and investigate the investigation...couldn't they? (I will check into Florida State law on that one unless someone else knows.)

 

[leftcoast]

What has happened to the Condo since her disappearance? Did the Kesses get rid of it too...like they did the car?

If they moved everything out of her condo, these are things that could have been thrown away (Boxes, receipts, etc.)

I think we are beginning to realize the full scope of why this investigation stalled and the actual magnitude of mistakes they have made. If this is the case, the Florida State Attorney General's Office could step in and investigate the investigation...couldn't they? (I will check into Florida State law on that one unless someone else knows.)

Don't know the status of the condo. I am assuming the Kesse's still have possession. Especially, since they hope JK is alive, not to mention, they need somewhere to stay in Orlando.

I think it is premature to call the state about this. I think OPD made mistakes early on, but, I do feel like they are trying.

I've said it before, and I will say it again. The Kesse's need to hire a p.i. who will at least find out what is going on with the investigation. The longer they wait, the colder the trail gets. imo

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[SeriouslySearching]

LOL I wasn't going to call the state, but I would like to know it is an option in the State of Florida. It could end up being the only recourse for the Kesse family down the line if they don't get a break eventually.

I feel the Kesse family has been blinded by LE in hiring a PI. The family has assumed everything is being done that can be done and have been made to feel 'comfortable' with the decision not to call in a PI. The pressure was on them NOT to hire one. I totally agree they should hire one immediately...in spite of what LE or the FBI says or has suggested to them in this regard. They shouldn't have listened to them in the beginning and put all their eggs in one basket.

 

[CatLynnette]

On a previous page Jennifer Kesse's necklace was mentioned. I remember reading that Jennifer was supposedly wearing this necklace when she was abducted. it was a gift from her boyfriend. The triple diamond necklace, with the diamonds arranged vertically, represented yesterday, today and tomorrow. Sorry, I don't have a link.

 

[leftcoast]

On a previous page Jennifer Kesse's necklace was mentioned. I remember reading that Jennifer was supposedly wearing this necklace when she was abducted. it was a gift from her boyfriend. The triple diamond necklace, with the diamonds connecting vertically, represented yesterday, today and tomorrow. Sorry, I don't have a link.

Thanks CAt. I wish that was more widely circulated so that people could be on the lookout.

Especially pawn shops, internet, etc.

One would think that on JK's website, the family would list each item that is missing, the serial numbers, pictures, etc., just in case someone suspects their boyfriend, or if a pawn shop owner gets a hunch on a IPOD or necklace.

the more information that hits the public, the better the odds.

And btw, I agree, a pI should have been hired within one month.

If a detective told me, it is like she "vanished", that would be all I needed to hear.

When are the Kesse's going to start getting mad at the lack of progress. What is the chief of police doing? the mayor? forget about speeding tickets for a while, and let's solve the unsolved murders, missing JK, and the crimes against humanity.

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[CatLynnette]

Go to these links and scroll down to the description of Jennifer Kesse where her necklace is mentioned:

http://www.projectjason.org/dpforum/thread.php?id=242

http://www.truckingboards.com/truck...issing-woman-jennifer-kesse-fl-1-24-06-a.html



If I were Jennifer's parent I would have hired a Private Investigator. I remember hearing that Jennifer's parents had made a decision against using a P.I.

 

[leftcoast]

Go to these links and scroll down to the description of Jennifer Kesse where her necklace is mentioned:

http://www.projectjason.org/dpforum/thread.php?id=242

http://www.truckingboards.com/truck...issing-woman-jennifer-kesse-fl-1-24-06-a.html



If I were Jennifer's parent I would have hired a Private Investigator. I remember hearing that Jennifer's parents had made a decision against using a P.I.

Ditto: It's like having a chance to win the lotto. Do you have a better chance with one ticket, or two lottery tickets?

Especially if the second lottery ticket has a chance to make a name for himself by finding JK. Just think, if a PI cracked this case, and found JK alive, he or she would have enough work for the rest of their lives. This case, would instantly make their practice one of the most respected in the nation. Talk about an incentive. Not to mention a million dollars (if eligible).

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[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks for the links, Cat! The necklace isn't a distinct one. It would be difficult to trace back to her.

She MUST have had internet at home:

"'We don’t' want to alarm you, but Jennifer hasn't showed up for work. She hasn't called. She hasn't e-mailed, she hasn't shown up for work.' Jennifer is the type of person if she is running 15 minutes late, she's going to call you to say, 'I'm running 15 minutes late,'" her mother said.
http://tinyurl.com/bxtkv

And this:
The woman's apartment complex has a security gate but the family said visitors are not monitored. http://www.local6.com/news/6443122/detail.html

Here, Sgt. Brown seems to contradict himself on Bo: The mystery of her disappearance deepened within an hour of the car's recovery at 8:10 a.m. not far from Kesse residence. Orange County sheriff's bloodhound Bo took a sniff of the driver's seat and pulled handler Sgt. Jeff Brown at a loping pace for a mile.

The scent led straight to the front door of Kesse's home in Mosaic at Millenia, an upscale, gated and fenced condominium complex with 24-hour security on Americana Boulevard.

The trail bypassed the complex's only entrance and led to a stretch of fence separating the public sidewalk from its private grounds. Once the 6-year-old bloodhound entered the grounds, the dog picked up the scent inside the fence and went directly to a staircase leading to Kesse's second-floor condominium.


And here is the mention of the gym bag: Crime scene technicians picked through a nearby dumpster and photographed a gym-style bag along with several pieces of discarded furniture.
http://www.local6.com/news/6443122/detail.html

 

[SeriouslySearching]

And sadly, this is why I doubt LE or anyone else will listen to us about the height or anything else we have come up with. <sigh> :

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-florida

The public long has offered homemade crime theories to police, but never as they do nowadays, when the Internet provides unlimited cyberspace for would-be profilers, law-enforcement expert Richard B. Weinblatt said.

"It's almost a case of, 'be careful what you wish for,' " said Weinblatt, a former police chief who teaches at Seminole Community College.

OUCH! Another slam from Drew K. on sites like ours:
The family is also dealing with the backlash of two "Jennifer Kesse" Web sites created without their permission, Bolden said.

Both sites had forums that allowed so-called "armchair sleuths" to post outrageous theories about Kesse's disappearance.

"We are trying to find Jennifer and any side things that come up or side issues, it does make frustration for you," father Drew Kesse said. http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbc...GNEWS/60310003

 

[CatLynnette]

This link is to an article which tells that the scent of the suspect was not only tracked by the dog from Huntington On The Green to the Mosaic, but the track also led into the woods. I hope that Local 6 News had their story correct when they published this article dated January 30, 2006:

http://www.local6.com/news/6587477/detail.html


Quotes:

"One of the two strongest clues that the Orlando Police Department is sharing with the media is the scent that was picked up in the woods," Local 6 News reporter Samantha Knapp said.

Last week, bloodhounds were then used to track down any possible scents leading from the abandoned car. The scent trail led back to the parking lot of Mosiac, the upscale condominium complex near the Mall at Millenia where Kesse lived.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Makes me wonder if all three accounts of scent are true tho. Maybe the dog or dogs did hit on all three places and there is confusion on which story they were going to release to the public.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I didn't think about a PI being "eligible" for the million. Seems like they would already be there and searching, doesn't it? (With or without the Kesse family hiring them!)

 

[leftcoast]

I didn't think about a PI being "eligible" for the million. Seems like they would already be there and searching, doesn't it? (With or without the Kesse family hiring them!)

SS

what I meant is that if the Kesse's hired a PI, he or she would probably not be able to keep a reward, since, he or she was already being paid for their time as a pi by the Kesses.

But, if some PI solved the case on their own, I'm sure they would be entitled to the reward. No PI is goning to do it for for free, they have bills to pay, and they need "inside" information to help.

The reason the internet boards got "slammed" early on, was because some of the boards used Jennifer Kesse's name, and tried to get donations from the public to help find her. Problem was, none of the donations was being used to find JK, the money was being used for overhead of a large non-profit.

that, and on some of the boards, some people, were ruthless in some of their scenarios. Some of the things they mentioned, and scenario's were in bad taste, and were not going to assist in finding jk.

I find it ironic that the media is slamming the internet. No single organization has a worse reputation than the media when is comes to making money off of other's sorrow.

I agree that maybe the dog did hit on all three spots. I don't think LE wanted the dog info. on in the public.



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[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, I had read all about the hullaballoo of the two internet sites etc. Still...the people on those forums seemed to have given us all a bit of a black eye. One bad apple kinda thing. It slammed "armchair sleuths" more than once in that article. I was rather disheartened by it myself.

I truly hope it doesn't mean they will ignore the things we have to offer them on this case or any other. LE and the Kesse family would be missing out on a wealth of information and insight.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

SS

I agree that maybe the dog did hit on all three spots. I don't think LE wanted the dog info. on in the public.



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It seems that way, doesn't it? I just can't understand their reasoning about letting things out that do not in any way hinder the investigation. It makes no sense.

AND it certainly makes NO sense for them NOT to have processed her apartment!! (If Bo did take them right back to her door instead of the stairway.)

So this could be another slip up by LE. Hmmmm...guess that could be a good reason they didn't want it out!

 

[nanandjim]

...I've said it before, and I will say it again. The Kesse's need to hire a p.i. who will at least find out what is going on with the investigation. The longer they wait, the colder the trail gets. imo

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I know that hindsight is 20-20; however, they should have hired a PI immediately. I hate to disparage the police, but I wouldn't trust them to do more than an initial investigation on a "missing" person. I think that it is definitely still worth hiring a PI. I wonder if the parents have done so.

 

[nanandjim]

...it certainly makes NO sense for them NOT to have processed her apartment!! (If Bo did take them right back to her door instead of the stairway.)...

Surely, LE processed her condo! She could have let the suspect in because she may have known him. I imagine that it would be a painstaking process as a party had just been held there, unfortunately. However, a lead could very well have been missed if they just worked from the car outward.

 

[leftcoast]

Surely, LE processed her condo! She could have let the suspect in because she may have known him. I imagine that it would be a painstaking process as a party had just been held there, unfortunately. However, a lead could very well have been missed if they just worked from the car outward.

AS to my knowledge, JK's condo was never processed.

If anyone knows information to the contrary, please share it with us.

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[Beyond Belief]

Have any reports surfaced that there were other people in the area when the car was being parked? Are there people walking around in the video beside the suspect?

Also, was it clarified that her car sat in that parking space the whole time until it was found?