FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #5

[curves]

I wonder if the swift capture of Kelsey's killer has caused the Kesses' to rethink hiring a private eye. It must have made them face the awful reality that Orlando LE sat on the video for far too long. I really hope that this prompts them to release everything they've got to the public.

 

[Enrique Sparta]

the video LE released really wasn't all that helpful. it only solidified the fact that the POI was the suspect all along and everybody knew it. Even on Dateline, they alluded to the fact, the cops had more footage and not just those still photos.

You still can not tell ANYTHING about the suspect other than he or she drove JK's car there. I admit that law enforcement should've released the video at the same time as they did the photos but it wouldn't have made any difference unfortunately. It's ridiculous to compare the Kelsey Smith case in regards to the photos and video. The difference between the two is night and day. You had a CLEAR, COLOR shot of the suspect walking outta the store and you got his car. Yet we're still debating about the height of the suspect in the JK case and it's been over a year later. The suspect in the Kelsey Smith case was also very stupid in not turning off the girl's cell phone. That gave the cops a general area to search. And the time of the day, it was likely that poor girl would've probably got some calls, it being Saturday night and all. That's how they traced the cell phone location. Meanwhile in JK's case, she likely had no calls very early on a Tuesday morning. She never got the chance to do the morning call to her boyfriend. Plus we know that the suspect was smart enough to shut the cell phone off. Remember her bf and parents and everybody else always said it went straight to her voice mail when they called. The Kelsey Smith case is interesting in comparison to JK that the suspect also drove her car and dropped it off in a nearby location.

Lately all I've been hearing is the $1 million reward for safe return. That's great but they should also seriously raise the reward for information leading to the suspect, not that lousy $15,000 reward. Rewards work in direct proportion to how talkative the criminal is, and how many friends he has. A primary purpose of a reward is to make greed overcome friendship. Perhaps there's somebody out there who suspects one of their friends or relatives and strongly believes that could be them in the picture but are they gonna drop a dime on them for $15,000? Much better chance at this happening for $250,000, whatever, something big. It's very noble that JK's employer offered a million for her safe return. He/they should have no problem offering a much smaller (but still big) reward leading to the suspect. Find the suspect and you will find the body and all the answers to her vanishing.

by the way, another angle I would look at but is seldom talked about is Jennifer Kesse's boyfriend, Rob Allen. No not Rob being the suspect but rather one of his friends. His friends would likely know her at least as acquaintances. Probably seen her a great deal over the months as well as couples often do things with their friends and significant others.

 

[rd_jfc]

Looking at the various pictures that we do have in Jenn's case, does any one notice the hump in his/her back?

No, I haven't. Could you mention more about where in what picture(s) you're noticing this? I invite you to look at the blown up images I did. I posted the link on page 1 of this thread.

I will be putting a roadmap of sorts of traversing the pictures at the top of the page tonight or tomorrow.

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[UCFAlumni2002]

I don't know of many cases where a reward to turn in a suspect or person of interest actually has solved the case. So I doubt that raising the reward for the suspect is going to do anything IMO.

 

[christine2448]

Excuse me for 'poppin' in...I read here and there on this case and saw this mentioned in the Kelsey Smith thread....interesting. If this has been discussed forgive me and just continue on, if not, this is a good point:

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Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching
I wonder if he was in Florida around the time of Jennifer Kesse's disappearance. He sure fits that scenario, too. I hope OPD will at least have them look into it.

You know, I thought about it being connected somehow before Hall was arrested, because that also would've likely been in broad daylight and her car was taken then later returned nearby where she lived. Practically the same MO.

 

[leftcoast]

I don't know of many cases where a reward to turn in a suspect or person of interest actually has solved the case. So I doubt that raising the reward for the suspect is going to do anything IMO.

I respectfully disagree:

Then why did the Kesse's raise the reward for Jk's safe return to 1,000,000?

IF someone knows where JK is being held, then, basically they are turning in the POI who is holding her against her will.

I think the Kesse's should put a "bounty" of 500,000 on the head of the POI. This way, even if JK is no longer alive, there is a "huge" incentive to find out who this dirtbag is.

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[UCFAlumni2002]

Leftcoast...

If your loved one went missing, do you have a "Bounty" to put a huge reward amount?

The $1 Million is coming from Jenn's employer, not her family.

 

[Enrique Sparta]

I don't know of many cases where a reward to turn in a suspect or person of interest actually has solved the case. So I doubt that raising the reward for the suspect is going to do anything IMO.

you're joking right?

you will never hear if anybody was given a reward in any type of criminal investigation. That information is kept confidential for obvious reasons.

 

[Enrique Sparta]

Leftcoast...

If your loved one went missing, do you have a "Bounty" to put a huge reward amount?

The $1 Million is coming from Jenn's employer, not her family.

obviously leftcoast means to talk with the employer about this and raise the reward. I'm pretty sure they wanna know where her body is and who did this to her even if she's no longer alive (which is a 99.999% certainty)

the employer was very generous to offer such a reward. i would think he/they would offer quite a bit on information leading to the suspect. it's by far the best chance of finding the person who drove her car and dropped it off at HOTG

 

[leftcoast]

Leftcoast...

If your loved one went missing, do you have a "Bounty" to put a huge reward amount?

The $1 Million is coming from Jenn's employer, not her family.

I would put up whatever my net worth was, and then mortgage my house to get every penny I could. Everbody with a house has some type of net worth.

and

hire a private investigator.

Why not use the money donated by the public for a reward on the head of the POI? How much money has been raised, and why not use the money left over to go into a fund for a reward for the POI's identity?

As for the 1,000,000 from the employer, then the Kesse's should ask the employer to make an offer of 500,000 or so for the POI. Let's face it, the odds of the employer paying out the 1,000,000 are less than 5%. But, the odds of paying out 500,000 for the POI are very high. Eventually, he will be caught. Might not happen today, tomorrow, but eventually this case will be solved.

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[Enrique Sparta]

I would put up whatever my net worth was, and then mortgage my house to get every penny I could.

or

hire a private investigator.

Why not use the money donated by the public for a reward on the head of the POI? How much money has been raised, and why not use the money left over to go into a fund for a reward for the POI's identity?

As for the 1,000,000 from the employer, then the Kesse's should ask the employer to make an offer of 500,000 or so for the POI. Let's face it, the odds of the employer paying out the 1,000,000 are less than 5%. But, the odds of paying out 500,000 for the POI are very high. Eventually, he will be caught. Might not happen today, tomorrow, but eventually this case will be solved.

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if I were ever in the situation where one of my loved ones went missing, I would offer a $100,000,000 with no intention of paying. if the hundred million actually got someone to talk and led to the important information on my loved one, i would say "how dare you withold information on the disappearance of my loved one! screw you, you get nothing!"

I don't think it necessarily will be solved. there are soooooo many missing person cases that never get solved. sad.

 

[leftcoast]

Leftcoast...

If your loved one went missing, do you have a "Bounty" to put a huge reward amount?

The $1 Million is coming from Jenn's employer, not her family.

I know the million dollar reward is coming from the employer

If the employer has a million for a safe return, why not offer 100,000, or 250,000, or 500,000 for the name of the POI. Maybe, just the name of the POi will lead to the safe return of JK.

Maybe the public doesn't know where Jk is, but knows who the POI could be.

As I stated earlier, I would do something radical, anything to solve the case.

I don't care if it means paying off street people, snitches, whomever. somebody knows the POI, and somebody knows what happened in this case.

getting to that person, and getting them to talk, is the objective.

Plus, keep on trying new things. Rewards, P.I."s, media exposure, re-enactments.

Just try something new. It seems like we keep on doing the same strategy over and over. Let's try anything. I don't care if it is a psychic, a private citizen, explorer scouts, asking the FDLE to take over the case, Anything, is better than status quo.

Heck, Drew had to "encourage" the release of that video. Is there other evidence that OPD has that in the public's hands may help solve this case?

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[leftcoast]

if I were ever in the situation where one of my loved ones went missing, I would offer a $100,000,000 with no intention of paying. if the hundred million actually got someone to talk and led to the important information on my loved one, i would say "how dare you withold information on the disappearance of my loved one! screw you, you get nothing!"

I don't think it necessarily will be solved. there are soooooo many missing person cases that never get solved. sad.

Exactly, Enrique

You do and say anything to get back your daughter.

You can tell in the Kesse's voices how this has destroyed their lives. Joyce talked about being on anti-anxiety drugs, and Drew said "he would give his life to get JK back", and I'm sure he would.

There are people out there, who can solve this case. Period.

There are people who with one phone call, I'm sure would fly down to Orlando and "cold case" this case and solve it. For one, Mark Furhman.

Has anyone called him and asked him to assist in this case?

What about JOhn Douglas, or some of these famous profilers.

What about calling Geraldo and getting him to do a series, and re-enactments for his show.

Anything is better than the stupid picture, over and over, and the reward.

I've said it before, I do wonder if someone is pretending to be a cop, or security, etc. Has anybody considered that angle? Have the security guards at Mosaic been investigated to their whereabouts?

this POI knows about LE procedure, the turning off the cellphone, the moving the car, maybe he applied for LE, and like radar was turned down.

I just want something to happen, and yesterday.

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[UM&AMWfan]

Exactly, Enrique

You do and say anything to get back your daughter.

You can tell in the Kesse's voices how this has destroyed their lives. Joyce talked about being on anti-anxiety drugs, and Drew said "he would give his life to get JK back", and I'm sure he would.

There are people out there, who can solve this case. Period.

There are people who with one phone call, I'm sure would fly down to Orlando and "cold case" this case and solve it. For one, Mark Furhman.

Has anyone called him and asked him to assist in this case?

What about JOhn Douglas, or some of these famous profilers.

What about calling Geraldo and getting him to do a series, and re-enactments for his show.

Anything is better than the stupid picture, over and over, and the reward.

I've said it before, I do wonder if someone is pretending to be a cop, or security, etc. Has anybody considered that angle? Have the security guards at Mosaic been investigated to their whereabouts?

this POI knows about LE procedure, the turning off the cellphone, the moving the car, maybe he applied for LE, and like radar was turned down.

I just want something to happen, and yesterday.

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The radar was turned down?? If you are talking about a radar detector you would want it on all the way to prevent a cop from pulling you over.

Where did it say that Joyce is on anti-anxiety drugs? I agree they should increase the reward for ANY info and was a P.I. ever hired AT ALL??

Unfortuanely, missing persons and murders do go unsolved. Look how long it's been for Jon Benet Ramsey and they won't ever be caught unless they slip up themselves.

Remember the Unabomber? Well, a few years after his last bombing an FBI official said he probably won't be caught without a slip or a tip from someone who knew him. Kacyznski was dumb enough to want his stupid manifesto published by newspapers and then his brother recognized his writing style and that was the end of the Unabomber.

It's quite possible this guy won't be caught unless he messes up himself.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Anyway...I need to catch up. Hmmm..a hump, UFC? I will go check that out, but I never noticed anything like a hump.

Speaking of the reward, I think it is very odd myself. First time I have ever heard of a reward being offered with so many strings attached. Being offered then taken back because they wanted the 'interest' accrued and all of that. Sounds a bit like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey if you ask me. Do they think someone smart enough to pull off this type a crime will jump for a million dollars and give up their freedom? It doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[nanandjim]

The radar was turned down?? If you are talking about a radar detector you would want it on all the way to prevent a cop from pulling you over...

I may be speaking out of turn, but I think that LC mean Dennis Rader applied to be a cop and was turned down.

 

[leftcoast]

The radar was turned down?? If you are talking about a radar detector you would want it on all the way to prevent a cop from pulling you over.

Where did it say that Joyce is on anti-anxiety drugs? I agree they should increase the reward for ANY info and was a P.I. ever hired AT ALL??

Unfortuanely, missing persons and murders do go unsolved. Look how long it's been for Jon Benet Ramsey and they won't ever be caught unless they slip up themselves.

Remember the Unabomber? Well, a few years after his last bombing an FBI official said he probably won't be caught without a slip or a tip from someone who knew him. Kacyznski was dumb enough to want his stupid manifesto published by newspapers and then his brother recognized his writing style and that was the end of the Unabomber.

It's quite possible this guy won't be caught unless he messes up himself.

No, the rader refers to Dennis Rader, not radar. I thought everyone was familar with BTK. Maybe, the spelling was off.

Joyce stated early on how this has ruined her life and the need for anti-anxiety drugs, it is a direct quote. Not that it needs a setup, but, Joyce was explaining how devastating this has been to her, and her family.

Yes, and the Jon Bonet Ramsey case was not handled well from the beginning by LE.

AS for the Unabomber, LE didn't want to publish his manifesto, but, eventually the manifesto was published and Ted's brother turned him in after recognizing a mistake he would make with a common phrase. But, the main point, is that additional information in the hands of the public solved that case. The FBI had twenty years, and couldn't catch the Unabomber. So, it is yet another example of getting as much to the public as possible.

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[leftcoast]

I may be speaking out of turn, but I think that LC mean Dennis Rader applied to be a cop and was turned down.

You are not. Thanks for clearing it up.

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[UM&AMWfan]

No, the rader refers to Dennis Rader, not radar. I thought everyone was familar with BTK. Maybe, the spelling was off.

Joyce stated early on how this has ruined her life and the need for anti-anxiety drugs, it is a direct quote. Not that it needs a setup, but, Joyce was explaining how devastating this has been to her, and her family.

Yes, and the Jon Bonet Ramsey case was not handled well from the beginning by LE.

AS for the Unabomber, LE didn't want to publish his manifesto, but, eventually the manifesto was published and Ted's brother turned him in after recognizing a mistake he would make with a common phrase. But, the main point, is that additional information in the hands of the public solved that case. The FBI had twenty years, and couldn't catch the Unabomber. So, it is yet another example of getting as much to the public as possible.

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You have a link to an article about Joyce and the drugs?

 

[leftcoast]

You have a link to an article about Joyce and the drugs?

It isn't drugs. It is medication. There is a big difference. Joyce said she had to go on "anti-anxiety medication" right after Jk was abducted. Also, that Drew had lost over 30 pounds because of the stress.

Why is that so out of the ordinary? Many people that go through horrific events need medication in order to help through devastating times. That is why there is medication. I can't imagine getting through such a horrific event.

It is accurate. When I have time, I will try and find the exact quote.

It is in the January Orlando Sentinel article. Just Google, ORlando Sentinel, and it is in one of the articles.

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