FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #14

[Megnut]

Do we really know if they don't have a video of her death? While I could be wrong about this... I've often wondered if he filmed her death, either accidentally (he was filming sex with her as per usual, and whatever 'happened' happened and it got caught on tape, OR purposely decided to make a snuff film). Keep in mind his timing of logging into Telegram where that sort of uckiness is traded/viewed. Also keep in mind he liked little girls and Maddie was blossoming into a young woman so her 'usefulness' was no longer.

He's a user through and through. He takes what he wants, when he wants it (sex from little girls, sneaking pictures of women when they aren't aware they are being filmed), etc.

I'm going to venture a guess that he doesn't actually love his parents. He definitely LIKES that they give him things, and are there to support and help him, but I think that's part of his User personality. He's using them for what he can get from them, but I'm not sure he loves them.

JMO!

He resents them.

But he'll use them to get what he needs. Root beer barrels and the coveted butterscotch sticks.

Over-sized manchild who never should have been given access to any children.

He is a user.

And that's the nicest thing I can say about him.

JMO

 

[ttjo]

He resents them.

But he'll use them to get what he needs. Root beer barrels and the coveted butterscotch sticks.

Over-sized manchild who never should have been given access to any children.

He is a user.

And that's the nicest thing I can say about him.

JMO

Thats probably why I felt the grooming, say more about the resentment,
why do you think he resents them? ( I want to see if I'm close)
I was thinking that he has become so accustomed to getting what he wants without question, and now ( his dad anyway) is starting to see through the BS and is not as supportive, that he resents having to prove anything to them.

 

[Megnut]

Thats probably why I felt the grooming, say more about the resentment,
why do you think he resents them? ( I want to see if I'm close)
I was thinking that he has become so accustomed to getting what he wants without question, and now ( his dad anyway) is starting to see through the BS and is not as supportive, that he resents having to prove anything to them.

On the one hand, up until a second ago, he thinks he turned out all right.

Grown man was living rent free in his trashed bedroom, then has the GALL to be perturbed by his parents' choices. Damn poodles.

Not his fault he can't keep a job. Not his fault he can't maintain an appropriate adult relationship. Not his fault he molested a child for yeeeeeeears, he didn't start it. Not his fault JS had and enforced no boundaries.

He seems to think it's all other people's responsibility to control his behavior. Which he'd also never tolerate but that's beside his point.

For me, it's quite simple -- and textbook -- secretly he resents them -- contempt, disdain -- for how easy it is to lie to them. Zero respect.

But watch him discombobulate if they ever drew any hard lines. Play on sympathy, idle threat, guilt them, threaten suicide, whatever it takes to get them back in line providing what he wants.

Their dynamic is so dysfunctional. He betrayed them with a nasty second life, and they'd be better served spending that money on themselves. He's 28. * * * correction: 38. He doesn't need candy, new books or coffee. He can sit in timeout where he belongs.

JMO

 

[ttjo]

On the one hand, up until a second ago, he thinks he turned out all right.

Grown man was living rent free in his trashed bedroom, then has the GALL to be perturbed by his parents' choices. Damn poodles.

Not his fault he can't keep a job. Not his fault he can't maintain an appropriate adult relationship. Not his fault he molested a child for yeeeeeeears, he didn't start it. Not his fault JS had and enforced no boundaries.

He seems to think it's all other people's responsibility to control his behavior. Which he'd also never tolerate but that's beside his point.

For me, it's quite simple -- and textbook -- secretly he resents them -- contempt, disdain -- for how easy it is to lie to them. Zero respect.

But watch him discombobulate if they ever drew any hard lines. Play on sympathy, idle threat, guilt them, threaten suicide, whatever it takes to get them back in line providing what he wants.

Their dynamic is so dysfunctional. He betrayed them with a nasty second life, and they'd be better served spending that money on themselves. He's 28. He doesn't need candy, new books or coffee. He can sit in timeout where he belongs.

JMO

an emotional extortionist.
like when he told Maddi she couldn't use his phone until she did whatever for so many minutes"
Makes me sick to hear him act like a victim , complaining about his room with ants, no air conditioning , no pillow. and just a scratchy wool blanket and that it wont change because ss says they want them to suffer.

He should be able to relate to that. He left maddie in a place with more than ants, for days in the Florida sun, with branches for cover.
When you listen to him whine about his conditions, what he has done doesn't even phase him. I don't hear guilt in his tone as he describes his cell. Who can he blame for being the person that left her outside in a field while he gave the run around to the police.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

@Megnut

Worse, he's 38. Nearing middle age.

 

[Gemmie]

@Megnut

Worse, he's 38. Nearing middle age.

Even worse. Soon to be 39 (4/25).

 

[ttjo]

Even worse. Soon to be 39 (4/25).

That is right both him and jenn used their birthdays as passcodes to their cell phones. 2 geniuses. that think they can outsmart Law enforcement., Try again.
I am not saying Jenn participated, But IMO she knew something, you don't tell your boyfriend your biggest fear ( Woody Allan) and claim you didn't have a reason for saying it.
Same with her no sleepover rules. why do you have sleepover rules?
it reminds me of a time I heard a therapist talking to patient, he said he was going to quit drinking, and she said do you have a drinking problem? and he said no? and she said so why do you have a plan to quit then ? whats the problem?

 

[Megnut]

@Megnut

Worse, he's 38. Nearing middle age.

Even worse. Soon to be 39 (4/25).

Thank you for setting me/the record straight. 38. Even worse.

 

[Poedelini]

I took a break because this case gets my emotions sky high.
The fact that JS is not in hand cuffs yet is mind blowing for me.
Not enough evidence i guess, but hard to digest.

With the jail calls coming out it's getting clear what kind of person SS really is, same with his parents.
The guy is really delusional if he really thinks we buy his story of what happened that night.
He's a piece of **** that never gets out ever again and who's commissionary will eventually never be filled again.

Still waiting for full justice for precious Madeline, hoping it will eventually come.

Jmo

 

[lightofmine99]

Yesterday I was just letting crime YouTube videos play while I did housework and as a result I finally listened to more than 30 seconds of bodycam footage/interviews of JS and SS. I just never cared to prior and only read recaps here. I want to say it was a video EWU Crime put out.

SS and JS are truly unbelievable but for some reason I find JS even more unbelievable. Referring to the ongoing SA of her daughter as “the sex thing,” asking about the possibility of not pressing charges, “Woody Allen,” the insistence there’s no way SS could have killed her, etc.

Not to mention her referring to Maddie as "the body" instead of "her body" or simply by her name...

MOO.

 

[girlhasnoname]

He resents them.

But he'll use them to get what he needs. Root beer barrels and the coveted butterscotch sticks.

Over-sized manchild who never should have been given access to any children.

He is a user.

And that's the nicest thing I can say about him.

JMO

Yes, child rapist and murderer is what gets to me. A complete failure to launch; not working, not supporting himself financially as a grown man, living in Mom & Dad's basement, and then with JS because he had somewhere else to crash and an innocent lovely child he could use and abuse at will.

SS - Straight to the front of the Florida Express Death Penalty Lane IMO. LE has substantiated evidence of years of abuse against Madeline. SS is a threat to society and lost his right to freedom when he decided to rape and murder an innocent child.

I wonder if LE found evidence where SS committed these types of acts with other children? Did he trade or sell these heinous pics and videos on the internet to other perverted child predators?

JS - I have no words I can use here to describe my feelings for her within TOS. Suffice to say I believe she definitely wins the most uncaring, cold hearted, horrible mother of the year award and I would love to see her serve prison time also. No-one will ever convince me she didn't know what SS was up to with her darling daughter. Sick beyond any reasoning.

JMO

 

[tlcya]

STEPHAN: “She had gone to be with me earlier in the night but I’d left her alone for quite a while while…By the time I realized anything was wrong…By the time I realized it was far too late, she’d been gone for a while. Seeing her pale face, blue lips, how ice cold she was…When they’re gone and really truly gone there’s nothing you can do, there’s no coming back. She was past the point of no return.”

DEBRA: “Maybe God just delivered her out of a place that was going to be really bad for her.”
Stephan Sterns: Jailhouse calls with parents reveal startling new details

1st BBM - is that what the kids are calling it nowadays? "being" with someone - barf Stephan. just nasty. Implies she had any actual choice

2nd BBM - very curious what was happening here - he claims he left while - while what? She finished dying? While what Stephan?

3rd BBM - Mrs. Sterns, I assure you that child was already in a place that was very very bad for her, thanks to your son and her mother who had no clue about boundaries and why she shouldn't be shoving her teen daughter off into a bedroom with her adult on again off again boyfriend. God didn't deliver that child. How dare you even suggest that God is responsible for ANYTHING that happened to that beautiful girl. The unmitigated gall of her to suggest such.

 

[lonetraveler]

SBMFF

Put aside for a minute what her autopsy said about her being strangled. OK, so he left for a few hours and came back at dawn to find her with blue lips and pale skin. What about that is "an accident"??? What is he thinking cuz it's something since he knows those calls are recorded and listened to. What could he be trying to get LE to believe was an accident? (again, pretend you don't know about her being strangled). She ODed on something?

None of that makes sense. lol

I've been thinking that he was into choking during sex and this time it went too far. That is the only way I can make sense of him saying it was an accident. He accidentally killed her. JMO. In no way am I saying that it was an accident, I'm saying that he appears to be calling it an accident.

 

[Gemmie]

I've been thinking that he was into choking during sex and this time it went too far. That is the only way I can make sense of him saying it was an accident. He accidentally killed her. JMO. In no way am I saying that it was an accident, I'm saying that he appears to be calling it an accident.

I believe he likes having sex with someone that is either passed out, asleep, or worse... acting like they are playing dead. That is also why I can't help but wonder if he made a snuff film. As I posted recently, she was at the end of her "usefulness" since she was no longer a little girl and turning into a beautiful young woman.

Also keep in mind a lot of the pics on his phone LE said it looks like Maddie appeared to be sleeping (when disgusting things were being done to her). Also note what an ex-GF said about that.

I asked REDACTED about their intimate relationship more in depth. She disclosed that Stephan had a tough time having an erection. REDACTED described one "very weird" occasion where Stephan had her lay face down completely flat, as if she was "dead" and had sexual intercourse with her. REDACTED said that was the only time he was very erect.

https://www.scribd.com/document/761306492/24001896-Stephen-Sterns-Documents-released-by-Kissimmee-PD-regarding-the-investigation-into-Madeline-Sotos-murder

 

[LetsSolvIt]

STEPHAN: “She had gone to be with me earlier in the night but I’d left her alone for quite a while while…By the time I realized anything was wrong…By the time I realized it was far too late, she’d been gone for a while. Seeing her pale face, blue lips, how ice cold she was…When they’re gone and really truly gone there’s nothing you can do, there’s no coming back. She was past the point of no return.”

DEBRA: “Maybe God just delivered her out of a place that was going to be really bad for her.”
Stephan Sterns: Jailhouse calls with parents reveal startling new details

1st BBM - is that what the kids are calling it nowadays? "being" with someone - barf Stephan. just nasty. Implies she had any actual choice

2nd BBM - very curious what was happening here - he claims he left while - while what? She finished dying? While what Stephan?

3rd BBM - Mrs. Sterns, I assure you that child was already in a place that was very very bad for her, thanks to your son and her mother who had no clue about boundaries and why she shouldn't be shoving her teen daughter off into a bedroom with her adult on again off again boyfriend. God didn't deliver that child. How dare you even suggest that God is responsible for ANYTHING that happened to that beautiful girl. The unmitigated gall of her to suggest such.

SS’s choice of words [I bolded in red] is curious to me. Sounds like he has prior experience in happening upon dead bodies. MOO.

Except: sadly I have sat with several loved ones while they transitioned. I don’t recall any of their lips turning blue. Maybe that’s what he thinks happens (like so much else, this is one of his stories that he acutely details thinking it will sound true).

 

[LetsSolvIt]

STEPHAN: “She had gone to be with me earlier in the night but I’d left her alone for quite a while while…By the time I realized anything was wrong…By the time I realized it was far too late, she’d been gone for a while. Seeing her pale face, blue lips, how ice cold she was…When they’re gone and really truly gone there’s nothing you can do, there’s no coming back. She was past the point of no return.”

DEBRA: “Maybe God just delivered her out of a place that was going to be really bad for her.”
Stephan Sterns: Jailhouse calls with parents reveal startling new details

1st BBM - is that what the kids are calling it nowadays? "being" with someone - barf Stephan. just nasty. Implies she had any actual choice

2nd BBM - very curious what was happening here - he claims he left while - while what? She finished dying? While what Stephan?

3rd BBM - Mrs. Sterns, I assure you that child was already in a place that was very very bad for her, thanks to your son and her mother who had no clue about boundaries and why she shouldn't be shoving her teen daughter off into a bedroom with her adult on again off again boyfriend. God didn't deliver that child. How dare you even suggest that God is responsible for ANYTHING that happened to that beautiful girl. The unmitigated gall of her to suggest such.

I completely agree with you on DS bringing God into this. I am totally offended by her concept of mercy for precious Maddie and all the similar “religion” SS is spewing about his prayers, forgiveness, and being “delivered.” Where was his Christianity while he was SA-ing Maddie, allegedly committing murder, and before he was caught? OMHO.

 

[ttjo]

STEPHAN: “She had gone to be with me earlier in the night but I’d left her alone for quite a while while…By the time I realized anything was wrong…By the time I realized it was far too late, she’d been gone for a while. Seeing her pale face, blue lips, how ice cold she was…

he said he left for a couple of hours, and he found her at dawn, that would mean if he found her at 7 hed been gone since .... (oh forget it, why bother trying to figure out what's BS anyway.) bottom line, she died from strangulation, I don't know how he can come up with this story. Is he that dumb that he didn't realize a coroner would figure out the truth, like wtf? My biggest pet peeve is when people talk to others like they are dummies

When they’re gone and really truly gone there’s nothing you can do, there’s no coming back. She was past the point of no return.”

DEBRA: “Maybe God just delivered her out of a place that was going to be really bad for her.”

Ya think? thanks to your son. and the gall of her to say " It was her time" and god knows your plan, or whatever she said, I stop hearing her after a while.

Stephan Sterns: Jailhouse calls with parents reveal startling new details

1st BBM - is that what the kids are calling it nowadays? "being" with someone - barf Stephan. just nasty. Implies she had any actual choice


2nd BBM - very curious what was happening here - he claims he left while - while what? She finished dying? While what Stephan?

while... exactly. Maybe that's when he fired up the tools the roommate heard.

3rd BBM - Mrs. Sterns, I assure you that child was already in a place that was very very bad for her, thanks to your son and her mother who had no clue about boundaries and why she shouldn't be shoving her teen daughter off into a bedroom with her adult on again off again boyfriend. God didn't deliver that child. How dare you even suggest that God is responsible for ANYTHING that happened to that beautiful girl. The unmitigated gall of her to suggest such.

Stephan prays for forgiveness and deliverance, The mom says he must ask for forgiveness, SS says he has done far more good than bed, but people only remember the bad.
well you know it's like being late for work... no biggie, you can be on time every day but be late once, and you're on the $hit list. That is their comparable to 1700 pictures of rape and murder,( allegedly)

 

[ttjo]

SS’s choice of words [I bolded in red] is curious to me. Sounds like he has prior experience in happening upon dead bodies. MOO.

Except: sadly I have sat with several loved ones while they transitioned. I don’t recall any of their lips turning blue. Maybe that’s what he thinks happens (like so much else, this is one of his stories that he acutely details thinking it will sound true).

me either, and his details are annoying. I think he uses details to distract. like about the flat tire, he needed to give a play-by-play of how that happened, like anyone cares. That was at a time when he was asked something fairly important, instead, he rambled, trying to look calm and cool, like he had nothing to hide. The details about his commissary, the candies, the sleeping arrangements, details details, details. He talks too much so it didn't take long to realize how manipulative he is.

 

[Gemmie]

me either, and his details are annoying. I think he uses details to distract. like about the flat tire, he needed to give a play-by-play of how that happened, like anyone cares. That was at a time when he was asked something fairly important, instead, he rambled, trying to look calm and cool, like he had nothing to hide. The details about his commissary, the candies, the sleeping arrangements, details details, details. He talks too much so it didn't take long to realize how manipulative he is.

While his details may be annoying, they are a red flag to investigators in the beginning of an investigation.

A note I took years ago from The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker - TOO MANY DETAILS – When people are telling the truth they don’t feel they need to elaborate on their story with ‘too many details’.

 

[arielilane]

NancyGrace


Crime Stories: #MadelineSoto’s Accused Killer Attempts to Shift Blame During Jail Calls with Parents, Calls Death an ‘Accident.’ Nancy Grace Investigates. Listen: https://link.podtrac.com/jv31wnlv

https://twitter.com/x/status/1904571228112769533

What Jailhouse Phone Calls Reveal About #MaddieSoto Murder Suspect #StephanSterns. Listen to #CrimeStories with Nancy Grace: https://link.podtrac.com/jv31wnlv

SUSPECT CLAIMS PTSD AFTER ‘FINDING’ MADDIE SOTO 13, ‘ICE COLD, BLUE LIPS’

CRIME Stories with Nancy Grace

www.crimeonline.com

3/24/2025


SS, creepy monster. jmo