FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #14

[Teche]

There are new phone calls between SS and his parents that have just been released) you will find them, they came out yesterday.
The latest is that he " discovered " her. that he wasn't in the room the whole night, left once to go to the bathroom and another time for a couple of hours, he found her at dawn. blue lips, pale skin. he suffered a catastrophic breakdown and became involved in disposing of her because he wasn't thinking. He wishes he would have just called 911 and let the chips fall where they may. He also knows these phone calls are recorded


His parents suggest he disclose everything and he says "There is no one to blame and in his opinion, it was an accident". He also says he read the autopsy report, and that the police want to focus on him because of "something about the bones in her neck"
He must missed the cause of death in the autopsy report because that was no accident.
Thats my condensed coles notes version of about 5 hours of phone calls.

Thanks for taking one for the team.

 

[Teche]

Sterns on Facing Death Penalty: 'You go to sleep, and then you go to heaven.'

Jailhouse calls between Stephan Sterns and his parents were released. Sterns is accused in the death and sexual assault of Madeline Soto, 13.

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Go to sleep and go to hell.

 

[Anika]

How long would it take (February in that part of FL) for someone to actually be "ice cold," by which I take it to mean he's suggesting she had lost all body heat?

 

[IzzyBlanche]

How long would it take (February in that part of FL) for someone to actually be "ice cold," by which I take it to mean he's suggesting she had lost all body heat?

Great question.

On another topic, I think it's pretty clear that #4 was where the murder took place.

 

[sassyblue]

Sterns on Facing Death Penalty: 'You go to sleep, and then you go to heaven.'

Jailhouse calls between Stephan Sterns and his parents were released. Sterns is accused in the death and sexual assault of Madeline Soto, 13.

www.courttv.com

Doubtful for you, Stephan.

 

[ttjo]

One thing I think he was telling the truth about: he said JS told him he couldn't leave her for her daughter.

That jibes with her statement that she feared it would turn into a Woody Allen situation.

Thanks @IzzyBlanche for mentioning it. Couple it with @Seattle1 post below If I recall, Florida law says neglect would apply if you can prove Jenn knew about what was happening
Would the statement above "You better not leave me for my daughter" be any indication that she was aware, or not enough? it's certainly eyebrow-raising, but I can already hear the defense, saying, it means nothing, or it could just, mean Jenn knew they were close, nothing more.

Florida does not seem to have a separate criminal offense for "child endangerment" but only criminal charges defined as abuse and/or neglect. IMO, there is nothing reasonable about sending your 13-year-old daughter to sleep alone with your boyfriend, a 37-year-old man, in a locked bedroom.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

[..]

(e) “Neglect of a child” means:
1. A caregiver’s failure or omission to provide a child with the care, supervision, and services necessary to maintain the child’s physical and mental health, including, but not limited to, food, nutrition, clothing, shelter, supervision, medicine, and medical services that a prudent person would consider essential for the well-being of the child; or
2. A caregiver’s failure to make a reasonable effort to protect a child from abuse, neglect, or exploitation by another person.
Except as otherwise provided in this section, neglect of a child may be based on repeated conduct or on a single incident or omission that results in, or could reasonably be expected to result in, serious physical or mental injury, or a substantial risk of death, to a child.
(2) OFFENSES.—
(a) A person who commits aggravated child abuse commits a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(b) A person who willfully or by culpable negligence neglects a child and in so doing causes great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement to the child commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(c) A person who knowingly or willfully abuses a child without causing great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement to the child commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(d) A person who willfully or by culpable negligence neglects a child without causing great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement to the child commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

 

[ttjo]

Great question.

On another topic, I think it's pretty clear that #4 was where the murder took place.

He is confusing sometimes, he said " I wish I would have just went down and called 911" His dad questioned SS to get clarification, and asked "well where was Maddie?" SS said "Upstairs."
So when he said I wish I would have just gone downstairs and called 911, what did he need to go downstairs for? Couldn't he use the cell that he was texting Jenn from about Maddie being in her nest at 1130 pm? Oh wait maybe when he left the room twice, he left his cell downstairs.
I know it probably means nothing but he needs to get his story straight his little slips will cause him problems.
He is his own worst enemy.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

He is confusing sometimes, he said " I wish I would have just went down and called 911" His dad questioned SS to get clarification, and asked "well where was Maddie?" SS said "Upstairs."
So when he said I wish I would have just gone downstairs to call 911, what did he need to go downstairs for? Couldn't he use the cell that he was texting Jenn from about Maddie being in her nest at 1130 pm? Oh wait maybe when he left the room twice, he left his cell downstairs.
He is his own worst enemy.

He also said he wished he had just gone downstairs and shaken her (obviously Jen) awake. Not that that makes much sense either.

If on one hand he's trying to imply that JS was responsible for Maddie's death, on the other hand, how could she do it while sound asleep?

 

[ttjo]

He also said he wished he had just gone downstairs and shaken her (obviously Jen) awake. Not that that makes much sense either.

If on one hand he's trying to imply that JS was responsible for Maddie's death, on the other hand, how could she do it while sound asleep?

If he wished he would have shaken her wake, I guess the leashing of the dog and her jumping up to help is a BS story?
Really, who can keep up with all their stories and shenanigans ?

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Another thing I noticed--and I have listened to these interviews several times now--is that Debra says she somehow doesn't think JS was surprised by what was found on SS's phone.

SS only allows that JS was aware that Maddie had feelings for him (ICKETY ICKETY ICK ICK ICK ICKY) but here was his golden chance to throw JS under the bus with regard to whether she knew about the SA, but he didn't.

I find that interesting.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

If he wished he would have shaken her wake, I guess the leashing of the dog and her jumping up to help is a BS story?
Really, who can keep up with all their stories and shenanigans ?

I've always found it interesting that insofar as I know, and I've listened to a LOT of interviews, SS has never repeated the dog leash story. I doubt that it happened.

Yet JS has recounted it twice.

What's that about?

 

[ttjo]

Another thing I noticed--and I have listened to these interviews several times now--is that Debra says that she somehow doesn't think JS was surprised by what was found on SS's phone.

SS only allows that JS was aware that Maddie had feelings for him (ICKETY ICKETY ICK ICK ICK ICKY) but here was his golden chance to throw JS under the bus with regard to whether she knew about the SA, but he didn't.

I find that interesting.

I do too, he doesnt throw her under the bus, and I felt like she was protective of him , but it felt more like she was protecting herself more than she didn't believe he did it. your daughter is missing, you find out your BF has been abusing her for years, and you ask if you can take a rain check on the charges?

 

[ttjo]

I've always found it interesting that insofar as I know, and I've listened to a LOT of interviews, SS has never repeated the dog leash story. I doubt that it happened.

Yet JS has recounted it twice.

What's that about?

I am not sure what its about. Just makes me think she is in charge of the narrative cause shes the one with the story. Theyre both seed planters, so What was she trying to say with that statement? what purpose did it serve? The only thing I can think of is that it would fit better with her " she was taken " story, if she implied all was well in the morning.? maybe that?
and if she was trying to plant any seeds at all, then it makes me think she knew more than she would ever admit.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Hey SS, I think your days of making demands and choices are over dude. Deal with it like Madeline had to deal with your sick abuse from the age of 8 years old.

JMO

Not my own logic, just something I saw somewhere that made sense to me:

The images go back only to when Madeline was eight years old. But no one begins their abuse with taking pictures or videos. Which suggests that the abuse began long before she was eight.

Justice for Maddie

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I do too, he doesnt throw her under the bus, and I felt like she was protective of him , but it felt more like she was protecting herself more than she didn't believe he did it. your daughter is missing, you find out your BF has been abusing her for years, and you ask if you can take a rain check on the charges?

Yeah, that was disgusting beyond belief. Your so-called boyfriend has been SAing your daughter in every way possible, with photo evidence to prove it, and you hesitate whether to press charges.

Despicable. Just despicable.

 

[iamshadow21]

Yeah, that was disgusting beyond belief. Your so-called boyfriend has been SAing your daughter in every way possible, with photo evidence to prove it, and you hesitate whether to press charges.

Despicable. Just despicable.

It isn't just the hesitation, it's the whole mindset that she could control whether charges were pressed at all. She seemed to honest believe that she could say, 'well, I don't think it's a problem' and they would just say, ' well, alrighty then!' and not prosecute someone who was provably raping a minor, just because she, as the mother, was fine with it.

I genuinely don't think she saw her daughter as fully human. If something didn't affect her, personally, she didn't care.

MOO

 

[ttjo]

It isn't just the hesitation, it's the whole mindset that she could control whether charges were pressed at all. She seemed to honest believe that she could say, 'well, I don't think it's a problem' and they would just say, ' well, alrighty then!' and not prosecute someone who was provably raping a minor, just because she, as the mother, was fine with it.

I genuinely don't think she saw her daughter as fully human. If something didn't affect her, personally, she didn't care.

MOO

so true, she actually thought it was up to her. Its mind-boggling.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I genuinely don't think she saw her daughter as fully human.

Respectfully snipped for focus:

I think she saw her daughter as fully human and a serious rival for SS's affections.

 

[iamshadow21]

Respectfully snipped for focus:

I think she saw her daughter as fully human and a serious rival for SS's affections.

I think the whole Woody Allen thing was a ham handed attempt at a story to turn Madeline into a consenting facilitator to her own abuse.

I think someone genuinely afraid of their daughter 'stealing' their man wouldn't send them off to sleep together, night after night.

I think whatever the relationship dynamic between SS and JS was, Madeline was currency. SS had it too good in that house to risk it by taking Madeline off alone. JS got a 'man' that didn't demand too much of her except a room, money, and a child to rape whenever he felt like it.

MOO

 

[FromGermany1]

Posted at 11:31 AM, February 12, 2025 (Did we see it already?)

Stephan Sterns absent from court as trial is delayed

The judge agreed to postpone Stephan Sterns' trial on sex abuse charges until the spring because the defense has yet to view key evidence.

www.courttv.com