FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #14

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If she has immunity I can not understand why, from what I've seen they have a lot of solid evidence. Immunity annoys me, seen it used in Tylee & JJ's case for a few people and personally I don't think those people's testimonials help secure a conviction.
OMO
What she was given was derivative use immunity, not a blanket, or total immunity, which is vastly different. In her case it means that the statements made in that particular interview cannot be used against her in court, BUT, she could still face prosecution if other evidence of a crime is discovered (outside of the interview where she was granted derivative use immunity). Most importantly, her immunity that was granted is not total, and she could still be charged if other independent evidence arises.

Big difference IMO. Thank goodness. With all that said... it would be nice to get more info on JS's whereabouts the past year, what she's been up to, and where LE are in this case in regards to JS. Will evidence against her be forthcoming? And soon? One can sure hope so.
 
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“The media has, is, and likely will continue to dissect every aspect of this case,” Smith said.
Lawyers for Stephan Sterns argue for closed hearings in Madeline Soto murder case

He's not wrong. As will we in the public. And I hope his motion fails nonetheless. Sterns kept his vile actions from everyone, his crimes existed only in the dark until Madeline's death brought them to light.

He should not be allowed to cower in the dark now, his trial and every hearing up to it should be public. So that he has to deal with facing the public's scorn and revulsion in the light of day, every day. JMO
 
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He's such a coward. Sure not the big man he was when he was harming Maddie.
 
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There are new phone calls between SS and his parents that have just been released) you will find them, they came out yesterday.
The latest is that he " discovered " her. that he wasn't in the room the whole night, left once to go to the bathroom and another time for a couple of hours, he found her at dawn. blue lips, pale skin. he suffered a catastrophic breakdown and became involved in disposing of her because he wasn't thinking. He wishes he would have just called 911 and let the chips fall where they may. He also knows these phone calls are recorded


His parents suggest he disclose everything and he says "There is no one to blame and in his opinion, it was an accident". He also says he read the autopsy report, and that the police want to focus on him because of "something about the bones in her neck"
He must missed the cause of death in the autopsy report because that was no accident.
Thats my condensed coles notes version of about 5 hours of phone calls.
 
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There are new phone calls between SS and his parents that have just been released) you will find them, they came out yesterday.
The latest is that he " discovered " her. that he wasn't in the room the whole night, left once to go to the bathroom and another time for a couple of hours, he found her at dawn. blue lips, pale skin. he suffered a catastrophic breakdown and became involved in disposing of her because he wasn't thinking. He wishes he would have just called 911 and let the chips fall where they may. He also knows these phone calls are recorded


His parents suggest he disclose everything and he says "There is no one to blame and in his opinion, it was an accident". He also says he read the autopsy report, and that the police want to focus on him because of "something about the bones in her neck"
He must missed the cause of death in the autopsy report because that was no accident.
Thats my condensed coles notes version of about 5 hours of phone calls.
“Something about the bones in her neck”! That he broke!
 
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There are new phone calls between SS and his parents that have just been released) you will find them, they came out yesterday.
The latest is that he " discovered " her. that he wasn't in the room the whole night, left once to go to the bathroom and another time for a couple of hours, he found her at dawn. blue lips, pale skin. he suffered a catastrophic breakdown and became involved in disposing of her because he wasn't thinking. He wishes he would have just called 911 and let the chips fall where they may. He also knows these phone calls are recorded


His parents suggest he disclose everything and he says "There is no one to blame and in his opinion, it was an accident". He also says he read the autopsy report, and that the police want to focus on him because of "something about the bones in her neck"
He must missed the cause of death in the autopsy report because that was no accident.
Thats my condensed coles notes version of about 5 hours of phone calls.
Thanks for letting us know. Do you have the link?
 
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There are new phone calls between SS and his parents that have just been released) you will find them, they came out yesterday.
The latest is that he " discovered " her. that he wasn't in the room the whole night, left once to go to the bathroom and another time for a couple of hours, he found her at dawn. blue lips, pale skin. he suffered a catastrophic breakdown and became involved in disposing of her because he wasn't thinking. He wishes he would have just called 911 and let the chips fall where they may. He also knows these phone calls are recorded


His parents suggest he disclose everything and he says "There is no one to blame and in his opinion, it was an accident". He also says he read the autopsy report, and that the police want to focus on him because of "something about the bones in her neck"
He must missed the cause of death in the autopsy report because that was no accident.
Thats my condensed coles notes version of about 5 hours of phone calls.
OM Gosh — in the recording I heard, his mother asks if he is getting treated for PTSD because he found the dead body. Is she for real? My blood is boiling! 🤬

@ttjo : I am having trouble finding jail phone call recordings between SS and parents that aren’t part of a podcast. Did the 13 calls only get released to media? No direct access to a LE website with recordings of the latest calls?

[ADDED: in fact I am so angry at hearing this comment about PTSD I can’t listen to anymore. Hope you all with a stomach for the Ps will do some detailed posting for those of us with Traumatized by Parents Syndrome.]
 
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Court TV has some footage of SS in court this morning so I guess he didn’t get his way with preventing media from being present! LOL.

His hair is almost a buzz cut, his beard has grayed, and unlike Kohberger, SS is in an orange jumpsuit (hats off to Florida).

 
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Court TV has some footage of SS in court this morning so I guess he didn’t get his way with preventing media from being present! LOL.

His hair is almost a buzz cut, his beard has grayed, and unlike Kohberger, SS is in an orange jumpsuit (hats off to Florida).

Oh he decided to show up!!!
 
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Court TV has some footage of SS in court this morning so I guess he didn’t get his way with preventing media from being present! LOL.

His hair is almost a buzz cut, his beard has grayed, and unlike Kohberger, SS is in an orange jumpsuit (hats off to Florida).

Maybe he was coloring his beard when he was on the outside and now he can't?
 
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Maybe he was coloring his beard when he was on the outside and now he can't?
He plays head games, For him to say he wasnt in the room the whole night just to leave open the possibility that’s someone else could have gone in there ( sounded coached anyway) then later when his dad said “ I feel like you were forced into this… Stephan says well dont get your hopes up, or think of any conspiracy theories” then again, said it to mom “ dont think of any conspiracy theories”
What in the …? So he says he wasnt in the room all night, but when the possibility of other involvement is suggested, he shuts it down.

Ok Stephan, if you “ weren’t in the room all night but you discovered her at dawn” , You believed it was an accident? What kind of accident? What made you think there could have been an accident? Moreover you cant say you weren’t in the room all night but also shut down other possibilities, You read the report, if it wasnt you, then you tell me who put their hands around her throat. ?? While you were out on the front porch “enjoying the cool air” hes so dramatic.
 
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Court TV has some footage of SS in court this morning so I guess he didn’t get his way with preventing media from being present! LOL.

Gentle correction: today was the judge hearing the defense motion to close pretrial hearings to the media.

I listened to it and I don't think the defense has much of a case for closure. IANAL though.

The prosecution referred to previous high profile Florida cases in which prehearings were not closed.

I don't think the defense presented any evidence why this case is so much different from those that such a step is needed to protect the defendant's right to a fair trial.
 
  • #495
I read a comment somewhere today that I thought was so good. I don't remember the source.

"He wasn't so camera-shy when he made all those hundreds of images of him and Maddie."
 
  • #496
One thing I think he was telling the truth about: he said JS told him he couldn't leave her for her daughter.

That jibes with her statement that she feared it would turn into a Woody Allen situation.

More and more I think JS was just relieved she no longer had a potential romantic rival in JS.

Just typing that last sentence made me throw up in my mouth a little. So sick.
 
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Hey SS, I think your days of making demands and choices are over dude. Deal with it like Madeline had to deal with your sick abuse from the age of 8 years old. 🤬

JMO
 
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Hey SS, I think your days of making demands and choices are over dude. Deal with it like Madeline had to deal with your sick abuse from the age of 8 years old. 🤬

JMO
I think he’s desperately clutching to the last little bit of power he (might) have left. He can’t lord it over an innocent child anymore so he’s gotta get his kicks elsewhere! IMO
 
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