FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #14

[johnlair]

Is it just me or does anyone else think they aren’t actually discussing the named items? A social security card? A watch? A mouse toy box? Popcorn box? To me this sounds like code words for something else and CS isn’t comfortable speaking about these things even if they are using code. A social security card and a watch aren’t much use to SS where he is right now or where he is likely headed. So why the discussion? And why would talking about the location of where these items were found or might be located cause CS to change the subject?

If I were SS—ewwww! thank goodness I’m not—I’d be more concerned about items LE hadn’t found and maybe don’t know exist rather my SS card and a watch. Evidence of other victims, or possibly evidence of dealing in the sale of SA, or any other illegal activity. Right now CS and DS appear to be his only contacts outside of jail to secure anything he values or that is incriminating. I just keep thinking how several people mentioned SS seemed to have money to buy toys but no identifiable income. JMO

Exactly what I thought like SS Card could be memory card with child abuse on it and the box could indicate the missing hard drive but who knows... Definitely sounds dodgy to me... Ss card isn't far from SD Card ín wording

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Is it just me or does anyone else think they aren’t actually discussing the named items? A social security card? A watch? A mouse toy box? Popcorn box? To me this sounds like code words for something else and CS isn’t comfortable speaking about these things even if they are using code. A social security card and a watch aren’t much use to SS where he is right now or where he is likely headed. So why the discussion? And why would talking about the location of where these items were found or might be located cause CS to change the subject?

If I were SS—ewwww! thank goodness I’m not—I’d be more concerned about items LE hadn’t found and maybe don’t know exist rather my SS card and a watch. Evidence of other victims, or possibly evidence of dealing in the sale of SA, or any other illegal activity. Right now CS and DS appear to be his only contacts outside of jail to secure anything he values or that is incriminating. I just keep thinking how several people mentioned SS seemed to have money to buy toys but no identifiable income. JMO

Excellent observations @Woodberry …. and yes, that does IMO seem to be the case.

I keep wondering if, and when, others might be charged in this case. And I can think of three other individuals perhaps. IMO it seems unfortunate that MS was in the orbit of the cast of ‘adults’ in this case. MOO

 

[61Montcalm]

Excellent observations @Woodberry …. and yes, that does IMO seem to be the case.

I keep wondering if, and when, others might be charged in this case. And I can think of three other individuals perhaps. IMO it seems unfortunate that MS was in the orbit of the cast of ‘adults’ in this case. MOO

I will not be surprised if another three people are charged.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I will not be surprised if another three people are charged.

Excellent observations @Woodberry …. and yes, that does IMO seem to be the case.

I keep wondering if, and when, others might be charged in this case. And I can think of three other individuals perhaps. IMO it seems unfortunate that MS was in the orbit of the cast of ‘adults’ in this case. MOO

Who might the 3 others be? I can see Madeline's mother being charged in the future as one.
MOO.

 

[Deleted member 339775]

Who might the 3 others be? I can see Madeline's mother being charged in the future as one.
MOO.

IMO - his dad could be another

 

[Gemmie]

Who might the 3 others be? I can see Madeline's mother being charged in the future as one.
MOO.

I'm thinking some may feel the Stern family should be.

 

[FrazzledNoodle]

I am a bit behind here, trying to catch up.. Where is this 'data dump' or all their search efforts and investigation?

 

[GuyfromCanada]

DEC 16

OSCEOLA COUNTY, Fla. - Osceola County Sheriff Marcos Lopez has agreed to pay a fine after he inadvertently posted an investigative photo of Madeline Soto's body on social media.

Osceola County Sheriff Marcos Lopez to pay fine in Madeline Soto photo investigation

Osceola County Sheriff Marcos Lopez has agreed to pay a fine after he inadvertently posted an investigative photo of Madeline Soto's body on social media.

www.fox35orlando.com

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

DEC 16

OSCEOLA COUNTY, Fla. - Osceola County Sheriff Marcos Lopez has agreed to pay a fine after he inadvertently posted an investigative photo of Madeline Soto's body on social media.

Osceola County Sheriff Marcos Lopez to pay fine in Madeline Soto photo investigation

Osceola County Sheriff Marcos Lopez has agreed to pay a fine after he inadvertently posted an investigative photo of Madeline Soto's body on social media.

www.fox35orlando.com

Thank you for posting that update @GuyfromCanada …..

Now let’s see what the State of Florida and the Osceola County Sheriff’s Office (OCSO) are doing about their Executive Director Nirva Rodriguez that posted IMO a distasteful ‘selfie’ image of the arrest of Stephan Sterns? And that posting by Rodriguez also contained a metaphorical or symbolic reference that might be inappropriate in some views?

Link to an earlier summary of this still unaddressed matter. Both IMO need to be held accountable. And the incident involving her conduct dates IIRC to circa February 2024. Nearly a year ago! The ‘selfie’ image she posted are also attached below. And it seems according to the Osceola Sheriff’s department website Ms. Rodriguez remains employed there; see second link below. MOO :

Post in thread 'FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #10'
Found Deceased - FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #10

Nirva Rodriguez

www.osceolasheriff.org

 

[Curious Me]

DEC 16

OSCEOLA COUNTY, Fla. - Osceola County Sheriff Marcos Lopez has agreed to pay a fine after he inadvertently posted an investigative photo of Madeline Soto's body on social media.

Osceola County Sheriff Marcos Lopez to pay fine in Madeline Soto photo investigation

Osceola County Sheriff Marcos Lopez has agreed to pay a fine after he inadvertently posted an investigative photo of Madeline Soto's body on social media.

www.fox35orlando.com

Thanks for posting. I inadvertently went through a red light. The word makes everything sound unavoidable when really you may not be paying attention.

How did he post a photo of a dead body inadvertently? Okay, but the fine $ sounds of a minimal amount. It's a pretty big deal and I hope it never happens there again. ​

According to the Oxford dictionary:
in·ad·vert·ent·ly
adverb
without intention; accidentally:
"his name had been inadvertently omitted from the list"

 

[Deleted member 339775]

Thanks for posting. I inadvertently went through a red light. The word makes everything sound unavoidable when really you may not be paying attention.

How did he post a photo of a dead body inadvertently? Okay, but the fine $ sounds of a minimal amount. It's a pretty big deal and I hope it never happens there again. ​

According to the Oxford dictionary:
in·ad·vert·ent·ly
adverb
without intention; accidentally:
"his name had been inadvertently omitted from the list"

‘Inadvertently’ … ?? Sure!

 

[Pruddennce]

Thanks for posting. I inadvertently went through a red light. The word makes everything sound unavoidable when really you may not be paying attention.

How did he post a photo of a dead body inadvertently? Okay, but the fine $ sounds of a minimal amount. It's a pretty big deal and I hope it never happens there again. ​

According to the Oxford dictionary:
in·ad·vert·ent·ly
adverb
without intention; accidentally:
"his name had been inadvertently omitted from the list"

that photo got posted on his personal IG account......didnt he have a LE issued phone for investigative pics/purpose?.....I can understand taking a pic to hold the crime scene for Kissimmee LE who were the investigative lead, and preserve discovery but....IIRC, there is no mention if this was his personal phone or LE issued. Im wondering how many other pics he snapped of the crime scene. and.... how can a crime scene pic be grouped with a community event? doesnt make any sense.

further, IIRC the department at first denied it was Madeline, didnt they?

really stinks, a hand slap.

 

[johnlair]

Am finding the mums description of her "dream" a bit strange
“In the dream they were in Maddie’s room unclothed. Jen came in to wake her up, was confronted by them being together in a way they shouldn’t have been, a struggle ensued and she hit her head or broke her neck, and Jen said to Stephan, ‘You caused this, you have to fix it,’” Debra said of the dream.

I mean does she know the truth she was piping on about stephen being not the only one guilty or maybe this is just her playing down his actions because she doesn't want to admit her son is a filthy child abuser and murderer.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Am finding the mums description of her "dream" a bit strange
“In the dream they were in Maddie’s room unclothed. Jen came in to wake her up, was confronted by them being together in a way they shouldn’t have been, a struggle ensued and she hit her head or broke her neck, and Jen said to Stephan, ‘You caused this, you have to fix it,’” Debra said of the dream.

I mean does she know the truth she was piping on about stephen being not the only one guilty or maybe this is just her playing down his actions because she doesn't want to admit her son is a filthy child abuser and murderer.

That is one of the most disturbing things I've read coming from SS's Mom.

 

[CuriousCricket]

That is one of the most disturbing things I've read coming from SS's Mom.

Can anyone come up with any insight on why anyone would share something like this dream? For what purpose?

 

[tlcya]

Can anyone come up with any insight on why anyone would share something like this dream? For what purpose?

denial, minimizing, in her mind, this is all JS' fault and her baby boy was led astray by this woman who encouraged her poor dear son to "cuddle" with the woman's daughter. My poor baby boy was manipulated into placing his penis (repeatedly) into a child and the same woman, in a confrontation must have accidently killed that child and then blackmailed my baby boy into cleaning up the mess.

The public knows what SS did. There is copious photographic and video evidence of her son's depravity. But if she can explain away the murder as an accident it's better for her son and better for her own mental health. Bottom line, none of this is her precious boy's fault and her dream is her way of trying to convey an "alternate" theory. Can't say SODDI, but can say it must have been an accident and that accident is all JS' fault.

MOO if you ever want to understand how SS came to be SS simply study his mother. JMO

 

[johnlair]

denial, minimizing, in her mind, this is all JS' fault and her baby boy was led astray by this woman who encouraged her poor dear son to "cuddle" with the woman's daughter. My poor baby boy was manipulated into placing his penis (repeatedly) into a child and the same woman, in a confrontation must have accidently killed that child and then blackmailed my baby boy into cleaning up the mess.

The public knows what SS did. There is copious photographic and video evidence of her son's depravity. But if she can explain away the murder as an accident it's better for her son and better for her own mental health. Bottom line, none of this is her precious boy's fault and her dream is her way of trying to convey an "alternate" theory. Can't say SODDI, but can say it must have been an accident and that accident is all JS' fault.

MOO if you ever want to understand how SS came to be SS simply study his mother. JMO

Yes both his parents seem very odd to me.

 

[johnlair]

Can anyone come up with any insight on why anyone would share something like this dream? For what purpose?

If there is any truth in it all I was thinking is when SS stopped by their warehouse or garage I cant recall which it was after the murder he could have maybe left a confessional note if he thought he was going to get caught either telling the truth of JS involvement or lying to take the blame of himself or maybe not ...looking into the parents has probably got me overthinking as I found their emails to him and calls very odd like there is some coded language taking place throughout. Like hes telling them where to look etc..

 

[Gemmie]

Yes both his parents seem very odd to me.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

 

[Deleted member 339775]

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

IMO they are enablers. Protecting their boy when they know it’s wrong. We know this is true because of the phone calls where his mum pretty much blames anyone but Stefan for maddies demise. Then theres his dad who (again imo) was talking code about toy boxes and SS cards etc, you can’t talk like that unless you know what the other persons on about so he can’t claim he knows nothing about the case.