FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #14

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  • #581
I'm listening to to the latest phone calls that were released and I'm...confused. They all know they're being recorded. They have to know the calls are being released and making the news.

So are they all (Stephan and his parents) purposely having these phone calls for manipulative purposes? Are they attempting to control the narrative?

I can't makes sense on why they'd continue to have these seemingly incriminating conversations. I do not believe any of them are that naive.
 
  • #582
I'm listening to to the latest phone calls that were released and I'm...confused. They all know they're being recorded. They have to know the calls are being released and making the news.

So are they all (Stephan and his parents) purposely having these phone calls for manipulative purposes? Are they attempting to control the narrative?

I can't makes sense on why they'd continue to have these seemingly incriminating conversations. I do not believe any of them are that naive.
I would bet money on it. Maybe not to control the narrative as much as plant more seeds.
In the last call he basically said Maddi may have overdosed, whether someone gave them to her or she took them herself. I lol find the exact quote) It baffles me how he didnt think her COD would be determined.
 
  • #583
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@Angenette5


The judge presiding over Stephan Sterns' case in Florida was never, ever going to close the pre-trial proceedings to the public/media. It's not warranted. And it certainly wasn't going to happen in Florida. Just sayin'


7:19 PM · Mar 27, 2025


The nerve of him to even ask. Mr photographer who has over (1700+3500) 5k pics of scam on his phone and Icloud, has the balls to ask for hearings closed to the media. What was his reason for having it closed? To protect the family or himself? I know himself but just wondering what reason he gave.
 
  • #584
I'm listening to to the latest phone calls that were released and I'm...confused. They all know they're being recorded. They have to know the calls are being released and making the news.

So are they all (Stephan and his parents) purposely having these phone calls for manipulative purposes? Are they attempting to control the narrative?

I can't makes sense on why they'd continue to have these seemingly incriminating conversations. I do not believe any of them are that naive.
I think they think they are clever. SS thinks he's being careful not to say anything that could be used against him. While saying them.

Sounds like his mom is trying to tell investigators to look elsewhere, SS didn't start it, ya know. SS only did it because he prolly was abused as a child, 'cept not by them.

Somebody else is to blame. SS is suffering too. Blah blah blah. 38 year old victim. Pathetic sad sack.

JMO
 
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The nerve of him to even ask. Mr photographer who has over (1700+3500) 5k pics of scam on his phone and Icloud, has the balls to ask for hearings closed to the media. What was his reason for having it closed? To protect the family or himself? I know himself but just wondering what reason he gave.
Agreed. Let me help a bit more and add he's a coward. jmo
 
  • #586
I think they think they are clever. SS thinks he's being careful not to say anything that could be used against him. While saying them.

Sounds like his mom is trying to tell investigators to look elsewhere, SS didn't start it, ya know. SS only did it because he prolly was abused as a child, 'cept not by them.

Somebody else is to blame. SS is suffering too. Blah blah blah. 38 year old victim. Pathetic sad sack.

JMO
I agree, that mom is trying to have them look at other things, but dad not so much Dad almost sounded sarcastic when he said well if someone else is involved, they need to see justice too" I just didnt feel like dad was buying in as much as mom.

Later he tells his parents
"she was acting kinda weird before she went to sleep, just strange behaviour acting. loopy"
Mom asks "like she had been drugged?"
"I don't want to get into details because it might hurt my case but I have some suspicions in that regard whether it was given to her or whether she helped herself"
 
  • #587
And Mom thinks he should be treated for PTSD because he found the body.

🤮
 
  • #588
And Mom thinks he should be treated for PTSD because he found the body.

🤮
yup 🤮 another thing, If it was that much of a problem for maddi to sleep alone, what did she do about that? I wonder if the therapist ever said that was presented as an issue.
 
  • #589
Mom says "its all about god's forgiveness of you, so you need to read Romans"
SS says right now he is reading Exodus, which is about gods deliverance from hardship and having faith in him.
Unbelievable.
 
  • #590
Mom says "its all about god's forgiveness of you, so you need to read Romans"
SS says right now he is reading Exodus, which is about gods deliverance from hardship and having faith in him.
Unbelievable.
I think he'll be really surprised at the eventual part where you actually have to confess your sins for forgiveness. We'll see how "reformed" he is, then, cause I really don't see that happening. :rolleyes: (Not bagging on Christianity, just hate fake jailhouse conversions.)
 
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Florida just need to end him and throw js and his parents in there as well.......sorry not sorry.
 
  • #593
Sometimes when you get a like on an old post it takes you back. so here is an old post, This video (at 1:25) her daughter is missing and she is consoling him. Make that make sense
It's so disgusting! And the whole Woody Allen discussion makes absolutely zero sense unless JS knew what was going on between that pig and her daughter.
 
  • #594
I am not an expert on bible teachings, but when I look up what does it mean to pray for deliverance. I found several websites that all say the same thing, praying to god to deliver you from evil surrounding you.
I think he'll be really surprised at the eventual part where you actually have to confess your sins for forgiveness. We'll see how "reformed" he is, then, cause I really don't see that happening. :rolleyes: (Not bagging on Christianity, just hate fake jailhouse conversions.)
It does not even sound like you need to confess anything or that you deserve to be saved, but rather to be delivered is an expression of God's love, when you have faith. ( which might speak to his sudden interest in the Bible)
That is typical for Stephan, to expect to be rescued without any accountability.
He skips the forgiveness part and moves right into deliverance. Save me, I have a brain injury, I have ADHD, I am time blind, it was an accident, I've been trying to shield Jenn, maybe Maddi helped herself to meds, it is never his fault,
If there is any hint of remorse I don't see it. A little sadness that Maddi is gone? but not about what happened. He is a victim in his eyes.

Maybe I misunderstood the point of deliverance in Exodus and someone who knows more about this can explain better.
 
  • #595
I am not an expert on bible teachings, but when I look up what does it mean to pray for deliverance. I found several websites that all say the same thing, praying to god to deliver you from evil surrounding you.

It does not even sound like you need to confess anything or that you deserve to be saved, but rather to be delivered is an expression of God's love, when you have faith. ( which might speak to his sudden interest in the Bible)
That is typical for Stephan, to expect to be rescued without any accountability.
He skips the forgiveness part and moves right into deliverance. Save me, I have a brain injury, I have ADHD, I am time blind, it was an accident, I've been trying to shield Jenn, maybe Maddi helped herself to meds, it is never his fault,
If there is any hint of remorse I don't see it. A little sadness that Maddi is gone? but not about what happened. He is a victim in his eyes.

Maybe I misunderstood the point of deliverance in Exodus and someone who knows more about this can explain better.
Well like I said, "later," meaning Exodus is just the start... I don't think he'd survive an Old Testament God, honestly. 😉 But I was referring to the NT where it discusses the imperative of confession in order to obtain forgiveness, in that I doubt he'd admit to what he's done wrong, since he's either blaming everyone else or calling it an accident... That said, it was really just tongue-in-cheek, though, not intended to step on anyone's personal understanding of the readings. 🙂
 
  • #596
Well like I said, "later," meaning Exodus is just the start... I don't think he'd survive an Old Testament God, honestly. 😉 But I was referring to the NT where it discusses the imperative of confession in order to obtain forgiveness, in that I doubt he'd admit to what he's done wrong, since he's either blaming everyone else or calling it an accident... That said, it was really just tongue-in-cheek, though, not intended to step on anyone's personal understanding of the readings. 🙂
You wouldn't be stepping on my understanding, cause I am not very well-versed in this. I agree with what you said, I was just thinking, he's gonna skip that part. if there is a way to skip the confessing and forgiveness, he's gonna do that. Not to mention that it sounded like it's not even expected that you confess, it sounds like it's unconditional and that bugs me.

Its shocking how creative people can be about avoiding any responsibility, and finding something or someone to blame.
I still cant get over the fact that he claims to believe this was an accident, when there is an autopsy report. he said that he read it in these calls , (I should confirm he read it at the point of this call,)
He is saying he left the room for a couple of hours . maybe sat on the couch and played with his phone, while (who else.) came out of her room like a ninja and he missed it. Keep it up SS, soon you will have a legit insanity defence.
 
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  • #597
SS parents remind me of Brian Laundrie's parents, especially the mothers. Both cases would make good analysis in the future for nature V'S nurture.
 
  • #598
I agree, that mom is trying to have them look at other things, but dad not so much Dad almost sounded sarcastic when he said well if someone else is involved, they need to see justice too" I just didnt feel like dad was buying in as much as mom.

Later he tells his parents
"she was acting kinda weird before she went to sleep, just strange behaviour acting. loopy"
Mom asks "like she had been drugged?"
"I don't want to get into details because it might hurt my case but I have some suspicions in that regard whether it was given to her or whether she helped herself"
Well I know what I think. IF she was drugged my number one suspect is the freak who could only sustain a full erection when having intercourse with a person pretending to be sleeping or dead and who had 1000s of CSAM images of a preteen and young teen girl who in many appeared to be sleeping or dead. mmmkay?

I guess I should be thankful he is so stupid, I mean should be easier to convict him, but sheesh, the level of delusion he is trying to sell is astounding. Of course there is mom, lapping it all up like one of her puppies. 🤮

I agree, dad seems to be less than impressed with SS' mental gymnastics trying to suggest an alternate theory.
 
  • #599
Well I know what I think. IF she was drugged my number one suspect is the freak who could only sustain a full erection when having intercourse with a person pretending to be sleeping or dead and who had 1000s of CSAM images of a preteen and young teen girl who in many appeared to be sleeping or dead. mmmkay?
Id love to know what he says now, surely by now he has to know the cause of death. I'd love to hear him weasel his way out of what he claims may have been an accident (medication,) of course this would be right after Jenn's speech on how careful they are about supervising Maddi taking meds.
As if she helped herself... get real.
 
  • #600
Id love to know what he says now, surely by now he has to know the cause of death. I'd love to hear him weasel his way out of what he claims may have been an accident (medication,) of course this would be right after Jenn's speech on how careful they are about supervising Maddi taking meds.
As if she helped herself... get real.
doesn't explain the broken hyoid bone in her neck.
 
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