FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #21

[Jersey*Girl]

I would look in the landfill. It's the first place I'd search if I lived there. Maybe even the woods that surround it. It's not far from the condo.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

BBM

This is exactly what Michelle did do and that is why the circumstances are where they are IMO. And statistics will tell you that a woman is in the most danger after leaving her abuser.

MOO

Not the last time...I was talking about the first time. I wish she'd have left directly after the first major fight they had.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Kamille, I'd never have forgiven him. However, if I look at both sides, I'm still unable to figure out who "Paul" is, yet curious enough to not give that up bc it's also a fact that Michelle didn't deny it when given every opportunity to do so. I've never agreed with getting back at somebody by doing the same thing, we're not cavemen. I wish they'd have sought help if they were going to stay together. Yet they didn't.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Do we happen to have any environmental biologists or bacterial biologists on board?

Bump...
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #21

 

[Kamille]

Not the last time...I was talking about the first time. I wish she'd have left directly after the first major fight they had.

She did. And he enticed her back. Probably with a whole crap load of apologies, lies, crying, whining, promises to change, a possible attempt at AA and maybe even a big fancy diamond engagement ring.

And what did he get for his effort? The lawsuit for a restraining order was dismissed and the support payments were now a mute point since she was back living with him and likely not collecting the support payments or at least contributing them to the household expenses.

Believe me, he knows how to manipulate people and situations to make sure he isn't getting shafted in any way. Just check his court records. But perhaps this is the result of what happens when he runs out of options and the person is still pissing him off.

MOO

 

[GrammaMaybe]

In your opinion, is there any chance at all of Dale being innocent with regards to Michelle's disappearance? Any tiny inkling of a chance? Or is his psych assessment off the charts?

Snipped by me.

It would be unethical of me to "diagnose from a distance" anyone. Dale had the motive, means and opportunity.

For awhile, we had video details of the arrival and exit of the Hummer and what my eye spied has been too hard for me to forget. Then to have a neighbor of Dale's tell a sleuth LE has the complex videos of the Hummer leaving naked has left me with the choice between Michelle suddenly deciding to kill her dream for a business while in Dale's neighborhood or someone else doing it for her.

Watching her family gave me some clues about who Michelle was. She didn't remove those stickers, someone in the neighborhood did, and the only one I know of who lives in the neighborhood who would want to hurt her that way is Dale.

If you or Thor or Southern know of anyone else in the neighborhood who would do such a thing, I'm interested. Please share your hunches.

 

[GrammaMaybe]

One more time, for the record: IMHO, LE has proof that the Hummer left naked and that is the reason Dale is the primary suspect, AND LE has no proof that Michelle is dead and that is why he has not yet been arrested.

Where is Michelle?

 

[Kamille]

Kamille, I'd never have forgiven him. However, if I look at both sides, I'm still unable to figure out who "Paul" is, yet curious enough to not give that up bc it's also a fact that Michelle didn't deny it when given every opportunity to do so. I've never agreed with getting back at somebody by doing the same thing, we're not cavemen. I wish they'd have sought help if they were going to stay together. Yet they didn't.

"Paul" is likely someone she was dating when they broke up in 2009. And apparently a year later, DSJr was still not over that because he had to throw it in her face while they were out together having a good time.

So I can imagine how he might have felt if he knew about Nate. Which I'm sure he did, or at least may have found out about that day that she showed up to drop off the children in the middle of a loving text exchange between them.

MOO

 

[GrammaMaybe]

As I believe somebody other then me has pointed out before, that particular evidence has not being confirmed and I will speculate here that had this been the case, Dale would have been probably arrested by now.

I respectfully disagree. Can you give any reasonable reasons why Dale would be the primary suspect other than the missing Glow stickers? IMO he has not been arrested because she has not been found.

WHERE WOULD YOU LOOK FOR MICHELLE?

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Snipped by me.

It would be unethical of me to "diagnose from a distance" anyone. Dale had the motive, means and opportunity.

For awhile, we had video details of the arrival and exit of the Hummer and what my eye spied has been too hard for me to forget. Then to have a neighbor of Dale's tell a sleuth LE has the complex videos of the Hummer leaving naked has left me with the choice between Michelle suddenly deciding to kill her dream for a business while in Dale's neighborhood or someone else doing it for her.

Watching her family gave me some clues about who Michelle was. She didn't remove those stickers, someone in the neighborhood did, and the only one I know of who lives in the neighborhood who would want to hurt her that way is Dale.

If you or Thor or Southern know of anyone else in the neighborhood who would do such a thing, I'm interested. Please share your hunches.

Ok Gramma, this confuses me. Are you talking about the neighbor of Dale's with the security camera that submitted the footage of the vehicle to the media...or...are you referring to the neighbor that actually wasn't a close neighbor that was making a statement based on the released footage before it as verified to have come from another neighbor? There were actually 3 people if I remember, not sure. I got so frustrated in the beginning bc I was dead set against Dale but then something just sparked & I started to see different possibilities. After I pulled everyone's court documents, pictures, posts from online footprints - well I kinda started wondering waitaminute something might be off here. In my head, certain things just weren't adding up. I still think it could go either way, guilty or innocent. IMO its easier to say guilty based on his history. But as a person that experienced firsthand the game lingo le is legally permitted to use, I tend to look at all facets. Again, I see everyone's point how Dale is the prime suspect & according to le their only suspect ... But knowing how often investigations can go awry and focus can be formed bc of one's history, I can't help but think other things as well.

I know I've heard it repeatedly that there's no named connection but I still have to be honest & think about the other women missing. I can't help it. I'm aware I may be the one with blinders and not le.

Right now it's uber easy to blame Dale & hard to blame somebody else but that's only bc of the circumstances in their history & his criminal past IMO. It's not concrete. I wish I could get Jennifer Kesse out of my head but I can't. Not yet.

 

[missingm]

Snipped by me.

It would be unethical of me to "diagnose from a distance" anyone. Dale had the motive, means and opportunity.

For awhile, we had video details of the arrival and exit of the Hummer and what my eye spied has been too hard for me to forget. Then to have a neighbor of Dale's tell a sleuth LE has the complex videos of the Hummer leaving naked has left me with the choice between Michelle suddenly deciding to kill her dream for a business while in Dale's neighborhood or someone else doing it for her.

Watching her family gave me some clues about who Michelle was. She didn't remove those stickers, someone in the neighborhood did, and the only one I know of who lives in the neighborhood who would want to hurt her that way is Dale.

If you or Thor or Southern know of anyone else in the neighborhood who would do such a thing, I'm interested. Please share your hunches.

While you may believe that that Hummer on the neighbor's video is Michelle's, every official statement has said that it is not and we haven't heard anything to indicate otherwise. Also, if the was a video at the gate of Michelle's Hummer and it was identified as such, I don't know why he hasn't been arrested and what they are waiting for. Right now it a a 3rd person rumor.

Do you know if the tire cover was found on the Hummer at the apartment complex? If it was there, then you cannot believe that that was the same Hummer in the neighbor's video, IMO.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

One more time, for the record: IMHO, LE has proof that the Hummer left naked and that is the reason Dale is the primary suspect, AND LE has no proof that Michelle is dead and that is why he has not yet been arrested.

Where is Michelle?

Question...

Couldn't they charge Dale with something and then add murder as they go along? Or no? I mean, what about if they never find her? Or conversely, what about if they do but nothing points to Dale after they find her? What about if they charge him with something & it turns out the perp is actually somebody else?

Again, I think it could be either-or. I'm 50/50 right now.

 

[Jazzmaster]

I don't think one should exclude anyone's theory, least of all the ones that involve Dale. My point was in response to a a question put to me about what LE might do other then concentrating to a single suspect, I then gave the example of using the map ... the lines ... the locations of possible abductions etc ... etc .... Also, if concrete evidence was the standard here I am afraid I don't have any that points reasonably to either Dale or anyone else.

If not Dale then who? Why is the LE SO focused on him? Why did he lie to LE? Now if we can't exclude him, why not continue down the possibilities of where he could have hidden her? Any ideas where Dale could have hidden Michelle IF he was involved? TIA

 

[Jazzmaster]

While you may believe that that Hummer on the neighbor's video is Michelle's, every official statement has said that it is not and we haven't heard anything to indicate otherwise. Also, if the was a video at the gate of Michelle's Hummer and it was identified as such, I don't know why he hasn't been arrested and what they are waiting for. Right now it a a 3rd person rumor.

Do you know if the tire cover was found on the Hummer at the apartment complex? If it was there, then you cannot believe that that was the same Hummer in the neighbor's video, IMO.

Even IF LE has video of the Hummer coming and going that in itself would not be enough for an arrest. It's not a crime to remove decals unless someone reports it as destruction of property. However IMO knowing WHEN and HOW the vehicle came and went would certainly keep someone at the TOP of the SUSPECT list that only contains the name of ONE person. Dale, where is Michelle? Just give us a hint...In the woods? at Daddy's compound? Water? Landfill? AFB? Help us find Michelle!

 

[missingm]

Even IF LE has video of the Hummer coming and going that in itself would not be enough for an arrest. It's not a crime to remove decals unless someone reports it as destruction of property. However IMO knowing WHEN and HOW the vehicle came and went would certainly keep someone at the TOP of the SUSPECT list that only contains the name of ONE person. Dale, where is Michelle? Just give us a hint...In the woods? at Daddy's compound? Water? Landfill? AFB? Help us find Michelle!

If her Hummer left at some time other than roughly 10 minutes after she arrived, and it had decals removed, it would be more than enough to destroy his alibi, especially if his car was not seen on the same gate footage leaving. LE would have a checkmate. It would also limit any possibilities of where she could be. His parents would have to be in on it as well, IMO.

 

[GrammaMaybe]

While you may believe that that Hummer on the neighbor's video is Michelle's, every official statement has said that it is not and we haven't heard anything to indicate otherwise. Also, if the was a video at the gate of Michelle's Hummer and it was identified as such, I don't know why he hasn't been arrested and what they are waiting for. Right now it a a 3rd person rumor.

Do you know if the tire cover was found on the Hummer at the apartment complex? If it was there, then you cannot believe that that was the same Hummer in the neighbor's video, IMO.

SPOILER ALERT: I believe Dale is guilty, based on what is "right now 3rd person rumor."

Whoever removed the rear wheel cover in Dale's neighborhood could have replaced it anywhere along the way. No?

 

[GrammaMaybe]

As I believe somebody other then me has pointed out before, that particular evidence has not being confirmed and I will speculate here that had this been the case, Dale would have been probably arrested by now.

Respectfully disagree. LE needs proof Michelle is no longer with us here on this mortal plane.

What piece of evidence do you believe is the reason that Dales is the primary suspect?

 

[Thor]

If not Dale then who? Why is the LE SO focused on him? Why did he lie to LE? Now if we can't exclude him, why not continue down the possibilities of where he could have hidden her? Any ideas where Dale could have hidden Michelle IF he was involved? TIA

My frustration here is apparent and mostly mistaken for a willingness to defend Dale at all costs, where nothing could be further from the truth. What I and may be others get drawn to is statements like "Why did he lie to LE?" and then we can't find anything on the record that indicates that he actually lied to the police. I'm all for convicting Dale or anyone else involved in Michelle disappearance, but I need quite a bit more than what is known at this time for me to draw a real opinion one way or the other. As to where Michelle is I think that is the most important question and I wish I had the answer to it.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Have to run. Bbl guys.

Please...

Play...

Nice...

:blowkiss:

 

[Jazzmaster]

If her Hummer left at some time other than roughly 10 minutes after she arrived, and it had decals removed, it would be more than enough to destroy his alibi, especially if his car was not seen on the same gate footage leaving. LE would have a checkmate. It would also limit any possibilities of where she could be. His parents would have to be in on it as well, IMO.

I don't believe Michelle's Hummer left 10 minutes after she arrived. That is what Dale wants us to believe...I believe he lied to LE about when she came and arrived...and that is why he is STILL the ONLY suspect.