FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #21

[Thor]

Thor do you have a theory on who did this yet? And how? I know you were on the fence whether Dale was involved or not...would be curious if you have developed a working theory yet? TIA

Yep, I was actually working on a theory quite a bit but then I got banned here foer a while and I simply put it aside.

 

[Jazzmaster]

Yep, I was actually working on a theory quite a bit but then I got banned here foer a while and I simply put it aside.

Too many trips to the Tiki Hut I guessdon't drink and type lol

 

[Thor]

I agree with you that I hope for his children's sake he wasn't involved...but the evidence seems to indicate otherwise IMO. Do you think he would ever harm his children? I mean a man with that temper when cornered may pull a Josh Powell wouldn't you think? I know GP and YS were concerned about that possibility...

Jazz, sometimes I really can't figure you out, I really don't know what evidence you're talking about, if the police have it they're certainly not sharing, but I do feel the same frustration that you must feel, it is so easy to think of Dale as guilty, he's the poster child of GUILT if ever there was one, and I too wish they charge him, that he confesses so that at least this poor family might have at least a measure of closure, but to be honest I don't think he's guilty from anywhere I happen to look at it, but on the other end he could very well be guilty, and also there is so much we simply don't know one way or the other, so in the end, I think everybody's guess is as good as everybody else's.

 

[Thor]

Too many trips to the Tiki Hut I guessdon't drink and type lol

LOL I'm not much of drinker but boy can I type

 

[Jazzmaster]

Jazz, sometimes I really can't figure you out, I really don't know what evidence you're talking about, if the police have it they're certainly not sharing, but I do feel the same frustration that you must feel, it is so easy to think of Dale as guilty, he's the poster child of GUILT if ever there was one, and I too wish they charge him, that he confesses so that at least this poor family might have at least a measure of closure, but to be honest I don't think he's guilty from anywhere I happen to look at it, but on the other end he could very well be guilty, and also that is so much we simply don't know one way or the other, so in teh end, I guess everybody's guess is as good as everybody else.

Actually...I am pretty easy to figure out IMO Let's put it this way. I love to knit for the grand babies. Life is kind of like winding a ball of yarn. I believe God winds us. Now there are so many types of yarn...different colors...different textures..and of course different types of yarn. Each person is represented by a different type of yarn. A dark and depressing person may have a black itchy yarn and a joyful hopeful person may have a soft and pink yarn with sparkles mixed in....catch my drift? Though you and I may not see the evidence the same...it doesn't make it any less real...we just see the evidence differently. JMO

 

[Jazzmaster]

LOL I'm not much of drinker but boy can I type

Well next time I'm in Jersey I owe you a drink for that laugh!

 

[Thor]

I agree with you that I hope for his children's sake he wasn't involved...but the evidence seems to indicate otherwise IMO. Do you think he would ever harm his children? I mean a man with that temper when cornered may pull a Josh Powell wouldn't you think? I know GP and YS were concerned about that possibility...

I agree with you to a degree about the children, I think they would have been better off with the grandparents and in no way do I think that Dale has the necessary skills for good parenting. However he's the father and that's that. I hope he gets some help for his sake as well as for the children's.

 

[Thor]

Well next time I'm in Jersey I owe you a drink for that laugh!

Deal

 

[Thor]

Actually...I am pretty easy to figure out IMO Let's put it this way. I love to knit for the grand babies. Life is kind of like winding a ball of yarn. I believe God winds us. Now there are so many types of yarn...different colors...different textures..and of course different types of yarn. Each person is represented by a different type of yarn. A dark and depressing person may have a black itchy yarn and a joyful hopeful person may have a soft and pink yarn with sparkles mixed in....catch my drift? Though you and I may not see the evidence the same...it doesn't make it any less real...we just see the evidence differently. JMO

Hey ... you may NOT believe this ... but I .... I .... I .... oh well ... AGREE. :what:

 

[Jazzmaster]

I agree with you to a degree about the children, I think they would have been better off with the grandparents and in no way do I think that Dale has the necessary skills for good parenting. However he's the father and that's that. I hope he gets some help for his sake as well as for the children's.

I agree with you there. The grandparents seem to be the one's being penalized for Dale's mistakes...BP and GP along with YS seem like such great people and they lost their daughter and don't see the Grandchildren just breaks my heart!

Now I am for less government involvement and think children belong with their parents...HOWEVER I think with a checkered past as LONG as Dale's that even though he is their father there should have been MORE consideration of his VIOLENT past especially when there has been no evidence of reform. JMO

 

[Thor]

I agree with you there. The grandparents seem to be the one's being penalized for Dale's mistakes...BP and GP along with YS seem like such great people and they lost their daughter and don't see the Grandchildren just breaks my heart!

Now I am for less government involvement and think children belong with their parents...HOWEVER I think with a checkered past as LONG as Dale's that even though he is their father there should have been MORE consideration of his VIOLENT past especially when there has been no evidence of reform. JMO

IMO the courts had no choice in this matter since they apparently could not find any evidence of Dale being abusive to his kids, actually I seem to have read here or elsewhere that at least according to Dale's parents he has a good and loving relationship with his kids, however, as a parent I know how difficult parenting is, and I'm having a bit of a problem picturing Dale with his past and most importantly with his immaturity, as an effective parent, I hope I'm wrong. I really think the kids should have stayed with the GP at least until he could prove to have turned his life around.

 

[Thor]

Good night Jazz, be well.

 

[Reality Orlando]

Maybe she's not listed because....the family doesn't know about these sites and there is certain criteria to be met, so IMO unless they know about them then she wouldn't be on there.

Michelle's case is now 7 mos old.

Charley Project....Every case must be at least six months old -- that is, the person must have disappeared at least six months prior to posting. It is acceptable if a person's disappearance was reported less than six months ago, as long as they vanished before the six-month limit.

http://www.charleyproject.org/criteria.html


And if it is a "Hot Case" for it to be submitted to the NAMP site

"Hot Cases" submissions will be accepted from Law Enforcement or family members of the missing person only.


http://www.nampn.org/submit.html


jmo

If someone makes a list of the sites and how to access them, I'll make sure YS gets them. If she wants to list Michelle, I'll help her do that.

 

[Sparky]

If someone makes a list of the sites and how to access them, I'll make sure YS gets them. If she wants to list Michelle, I'll help her do that.

That's so nice of you! Maybe check with Bern, I believe she was looking at different sites and found Michelle wasn't on them. She may already have a list. Jmo

 

[Skully]

She needs to be added to the Charley Project and North Amercan Missing persons site. That is the two I noticed so far. If I find others I will let you know.


http://nampn.org/


http://www.charleyproject.org/index.html

 

[GrammaMaybe]

Whaaaaat? DS2 is a meth head? I must have missed this! Please fill me in on this tidbit!

None of us have seen his test records, so no one knows what he is/is not using.

In my experience working with mandated clients (conservative numbers indicated that AT LEAST 80% are in trouble due to substance abuse/addiction) meth is the hardest drug to kick, next appears to me (REMEMBER, I AM RETIRED AND NO LONGER LICENSED, so this is just some fools opinion [and I'm too lazy to go look up the research]) methadone, then heroin. Of ALL drugs, legal included, of course tobacco is the most addictive.

Meth addicts in my experience, IIRC, seem to be thin (see videos), impulsive (see video of Dale knocking down the cameraman), lacking good judgment (see same cameraman video), pugnacious (someone can provide link to Dale's rap sheet), grandiose (body shots, attempt at acting career) and angry and blaming. This is remember, just my Jane Q Citizen's opinion; I didn't look it up in the DSM.

Meth addicts have been the ones that gave me some of my favorite quotes:

"If you think I'm going to continue giving that ***** my hard earned money so she can live for free in MY trailer and play with those 5 kids all day, you're crazy."

"Crazy is not hitting a woman who keeps nagging about where you've been. It wasn't even light yet."

"Of course I take meth. Why else would anyone dust?"

"It's not my fault the unit burned. The stupid owner built the f***ing shed out of wood."

Just my opinion, of course--and this opinion affects what I believe about the crime and who I believe is the perp and what course my research follows.

 

[FrayedKnot]

@grammamaybe

Good points, but it also might be that DS2 is just an a***ole.

Either way, he's guilty as sin, IMHO

 

[southern_comfort]

So... the claim that Michelle might have run away in part because she had "a very public bad hair day" on national television is perfectly reasonable (per your post a few weeks ago). But the claim that perhaps a known drug offender might still have a drug problem is "wild speculation". Got it.

The might makes all the difference. That word was left out with regard to Dale being a meth addict. IMO.

ETA: I am by far not the only person who thinks Michelle might have taken off and yeah, her appearance on PC (figuratively as well as literally) plays into that.

 

[Sparky]

The might makes all the difference. That word was left out with regard to Dale being a meth addict. IMO.

ETA: I am by far not the only person who thinks Michelle might have taken off and yeah, her appearance on PC (figuratively as well as literally) plays into that.

BBM

I can understand this, and that's what I thought a few mos ago. But sadly, I don't think that anymore.

Jmo

 

[Thor]

None of us have seen his test records, so no one knows what he is/is not using.

In my experience working with mandated clients (conservative numbers indicated that AT LEAST 80% are in trouble due to substance abuse/addiction) meth is the hardest drug to kick, next appears to me (REMEMBER, I AM RETIRED AND NO LONGER LICENSED, so this is just some fools opinion [and I'm too lazy to go look up the research]) methadone, then heroin. Of ALL drugs, legal included, of course tobacco is the most addictive.

Meth addicts in my experience, IIRC, seem to be thin (see videos), impulsive (see video of Dale knocking down the cameraman), lacking good judgment (see same cameraman video), pugnacious (someone can provide link to Dale's rap sheet), grandiose (body shots, attempt at acting career) and angry and blaming. This is remember, just my Jane Q Citizen's opinion; I didn't look it up in the DSM.

Meth addicts have been the ones that gave me some of my favorite quotes:

"If you think I'm going to continue giving that ***** my hard earned money so she can live for free in MY trailer and play with those 5 kids all day, you're crazy."

"Crazy is not hitting a woman who keeps nagging about where you've been. It wasn't even light yet."

"Of course I take meth. Why else would anyone dust?"

"It's not my fault the unit burned. The stupid owner built the f***ing shed out of wood."

Just my opinion, of course--and this opinion affects what I believe about the crime and who I believe is the perp and what course my research follows.

IMO An addiction to meth would have disqualified Dale from having custody of his children, not to mention that he could have been charged with a felony, therefore notwithstanding all the interesting data about drug addiction and the psychological insights in the addicts' mind this seems to me quite a few steps removed from finding out what happened to MP. JMO