FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #19

[cathdawg]

:twocents:If there was some concrete news to tell the Public other than advising us when and where the Bass Fishing Fundraiser is , etc. etc. etc. They would be able to squash some of the rumors there.

 

[Dee10]

Has there ever been a formal retraction or correction from LE about the RSO whose name was on the MPR?

Hi Kamille!

Snippets from: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/c..._a_big_problem

The nature of the case has also meant attention has been focused on sex offenders. One of those men, who worked on a renovation crew months earlier at a house near where Somer was last seen as she walked home, has been interviewed. Another, whose name was on the initial police report after a woman thought she spotted him near Orange Park, was in Texas. When he discovered he had incorrectly been mentioned in the case, he nervously went to authorities there to say he was not near Florida.

 

[sorrell skye]

Since you seem very intuned what do you make of the comment from this story..
Andrew wasn't with Somer, her twin, and his other sister on their walk home from school. But later that night, he joined the frantic search.

"I walked around with a patrolling officer, and we told him what happened," Andrew said

http://www.news4jax.com/news/21363554/detail.html

since he was not there why did he walk with officer and tell him what happened

I hadn't read that article - TY for bringing it to my attention. At first glance, it seems that Andrew was referring to the night when his sister first went missing. It's confusing why he says "I walked around with a patrolling officer" and then he uses the plural pronoun "We told him what happened."
Who's "we"?
I also wonder if the "patrolling officer" was the one DT flagged down.
It's probably nothing, but since A wasn't with his siblings when his sister went missing, he's not considered a witness, so anything he relays is second-hand information that was told to him by others, which the "patrolling officer" wouldn't need, since it would have been in the incident report. IDK.

I haven't reviewed the MPR recently, so I don't remember if the info is on there, or if I read it in a news article, but I seem to recall DT saying she picked up her oldest son at the OPAA around 5ish. (Warning: I'm about to gets nit-picky with details!) Didn't she leave work around 4:20? If drive-time to home is about 30 minutes (maybe longer if there's rush hour traffic), and she picked up A at the park around 5:00, that doesn't leave a whole lot of time to search the park for Somer before flagging down a police car that just happened to be driving by. It's a BIG park!
Another conflicting detail that stands out to me, is that in an interview DT says she flagged down the officer down the street from the park (Gano and something - don't recall the cross street right now) and then they went to the park, where DT says that her son A was there looking, and then the video goes black.
So, which is it? Did she pick up her son from the park on her way home from work (as she stated), or did she send him there to look (as she also stated)?
Sorry to be so nit-picky with what seem to be minor details. But they just stand out to me.
I like things to be tidy and accurate, and when they're not, I question why.

ETA: Deciphering what kids say is tricky. They don't always explain things clearly. I'm not going to read too much into A's statements at this time.

 

[tarabull]

I just want to post the first part of this article:

A***** C******** said he just had to get out of his house. He said he needed to get outside and do something, anything to help find his little sister, 7-year-old Somer Thompson.

"Pretty much, I'm trying to think positive at this time," 13-year-old A***** said.

A****** and his best friend C*** are collecting donations for fliers in the same area where Somer was last seen. And people have been generous, not even knowing that the person they were giving bills to is Somer's older brother.

"I'm surprised by how many people have given money," A***** said.

Since you seem very intuned what do you make of the comment from this story..
Andrew wasn't with Somer, her twin, and his other sister on their walk home from school. But later that night, he joined the frantic search.

"I walked around with a patrolling officer, and we told him what happened," Andrew said

http://www.news4jax.com/news/21363554/detail.html

since he was not there why did he walk with officer and tell him what happened

 

[Kamille]

Hi Kamille!

Snippets from: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/c..._a_big_problem

The nature of the case has also meant attention has been focused on sex offenders. One of those men, who worked on a renovation crew months earlier at a house near where Somer was last seen as she walked home, has been interviewed. Another, whose name was on the initial police report after a woman thought she spotted him near Orange Park, was in Texas. When he discovered he had incorrectly been mentioned in the case, he nervously went to authorities there to say he was not near Florida.

Does this make any sense? I thought the names listed on that report were of witnesses that LE actually talked to. So how is it that a woman in Florida thought she saw a RSO from Texas in the area and knew his name, birthdate, address, telephone number and place of employment? Or was all that info just put down when his name was run through the LE computer and that was the last info they had for him? How does she know him? Was that woman CS? Or did LE talk to someone without getting their name and some woman tried to provide it for them? Do we know if that RSO had an airtight alibi that he was in Texas on the day of the disappearance? That whole thing still sounds really fishy to me. Who is the mystery woman who gave them that name? Why would she know him and who might she be trying to cover for?

 

[ccane]

I hadn't read that article - TY for bringing it to my attention. At first glance, it seems that Andrew was referring to the night when his sister first went missing. It's confusing why he says "I walked around with a patrolling officer" and then he uses the plural pronoun "We told him what happened."
Who's "we"?
I also wonder if the "patrolling officer" was the one DT flagged down.
It's probably nothing, but since A wasn't with his siblings when his sister went missing, he's not considered a witness, so anything he relays is second-hand information that was told to him by others, which the "patrolling officer" wouldn't need, since it would have been in the incident report. IDK.

I haven't reviewed the MPR recently, so I don't remember if the info is on there, or if I read it in a news article, but I seem to recall DT saying she picked up her oldest son at the OPAA around 5ish. (Warning: I'm about to gets nit-picky with details!) Didn't she leave work around 4:20? If drive-time to home is about 30 minutes (maybe longer if there's rush hour traffic), and she picked up A at the park around 5:00, that doesn't leave a whole lot of time to search the park for Somer before flagging down a police car that just happened to be driving by. It's a BIG park!
Another conflicting detail that stands out to me, is that in an interview DT says she flagged down the officer down the street from the park (Gano and something - don't recall the cross street right now) and then they went to the park, where DT says that her son A was there looking, and then the video goes black.
So, which is it? Did she pick up her son from the park on her way home from work (as she stated), or did she send him there to look (as she also stated)?
Sorry to be so nit-picky with what seem to be minor details. But they just stand out to me.
I like things to be tidy and accurate, and when they're not, I question why.

ETA: Deciphering what kids say is tricky. They don't always explain things clearly. I'm not going to read too much into A's statements at this time.

A. 4pm get message somer missing, go to car 5mins? drive 25mins +traffic?
(call boyfriend 4:20) searching from 4:35ish to 5ish, flag police

or

B. 4pm 4pm get message somer missing, go to car 5mins? drive from Kingsley Ave office 2mins and search from 4:05 to 4:20 calling boyfriend. 4:20 to a little after 5ish flag police??

I think B is more likely

 

[cathdawg]

I think it was Cheewawa that said she worked at the Jax office, she saw her there on a T.V. at that office or something like that.

 

[ccane]

I think it was Cheewawa that said she worked at the Jax office, she saw her there on a T.V. at that office or something like that.

She could have worked at both locations or transfered closer to home. Since she had lunch at home with SP I dont think she would have drive 25min to and 25min back if she worked in jacksonville

 

[cathdawg]

Deputy Hickey who wrote the MPR, states he searched Grove Park , however it looks like this happened after the interview. Yes, because he did not phone it in to the switchboard as a MP until 7 pm! OMG she would be long gone after 4 hrs. What were they all thinking or not.

 

[Noway]

She could have worked at both locations or transfered closer to home. Since she had lunch at home with SP I dont think she would have drive 25min to and 25min back if she worked in jacksonville

On the MPR her work address is given as Jacksonville, not OP.

Some think she drove home to do drugs or have sex with SP, although that is only speculation.

If she lied about her work location, for whatever reason, that would raise red flags. Why lie about something so simple?

 

[zannah]

My computer got attacked when I pasted that link into my address bar. ETA: Maybe wasn't this site since I went there again and all was fine.

I also got one of those bogus "your pc is infected" malware things when I used that family watchdog site. Won't be using that link again.

 

[ccane]

On the MPR her work address is given as Jacksonville, not OP.

Some think she drove home to do drugs or have sex with SP, although that is only speculation.

If she lied about her work location, for whatever reason, that would raise red flags. Why lie about something so simple?

Not saying it's a lie ....but the office that pays you is not always the location you work at. She is a recptionist and they may need her to work at both locations or on certain days.

 

[Dee10]

Does this make any sense? I thought the names listed on that report were of witnesses that LE actually talked to. So how is it that a woman in Florida thought she saw a RSO from Texas in the area and knew his name, birthdate, address, telephone number and place of employment? Or was all that info just put down when his name was run through the LE computer and that was the last info they had for him? How does she know him? Was that woman CS? Or did LE talk to someone without getting their name and some woman tried to provide it for them? Do we know if that RSO had an airtight alibi that he was in Texas on the day of the disappearance? That whole thing still sounds really fishy to me. Who is the mystery woman who gave them that name? Why would she know him and who might she be trying to cover for?

Many of us thought it was fishy. There has been no follow-up from that article unfortunately.

 

[twocents]

The Dr that DT worked for has two locations and splits time between both. I had my wisdom teeth pulled in the OP office in May of this year. I specifically asked for the OP office, as it was only a few miles from my house.

 

[hopetohelp]

Does this make any sense? I thought the names listed on that report were of witnesses that LE actually talked to. So how is it that a woman in Florida thought she saw a RSO from Texas in the area and knew his name, birthdate, address, telephone number and place of employment? Or was all that info just put down when his name was run through the LE computer and that was the last info they had for him? How does she know him? Was that woman CS? Or did LE talk to someone without getting their name and some woman tried to provide it for them? Do we know if that RSO had an airtight alibi that he was in Texas on the day of the disappearance? That whole thing still sounds really fishy to me. Who is the mystery woman who gave them that name? Why would she know him and who might she be trying to cover for?

Well, if someone is in the system (and a sex offender registered in the area would be), they can run the name and it pulls up the dob, addy, etc. They may in fact have more than one guy with the same name and they have to select the correct individual. I get how they could have all of his info just because someone said he was a person they'd seen recently. What bugs me about this is how do they know the guy was in Texas on the 19th? He could have run to Texas after. Overnight even. I hope they aren't just taking his word. Surely not, right?

And plus - it sure would be nice to know why he was on that report in the first place. Who is it that told the police he was in the neighborhood? Did someone think they saw him?

 

[txsvicki]

I have absolutely no idea how it really was, but Diena could have worked at both offices at times filling in for sick employees or mornings at one, afternoons at the other.

 

[twocents]

I believe they all work at one location or the other (depending on the day) during the week. What would be the point of having people in an office and no Dr there. I also don't think he would have that many staff. The OP office had about 10 people working there.

 

[twocents]

Noway.... LOL they actually give you valium to take the morning of your appt. She could have been there, but I was so high Santa could have been there too.

 

[hopetohelp]

Deputy Hickey who wrote the MPR, states he searched Grove Park , however it looks like this happened after the interview. Yes, because he did not phone it in to the switchboard as a MP until 7 pm! OMG she would be long gone after 4 hrs. What were they all thinking or not.

or not.

I think the police took their cue (unfortunately) from the mother. Since the mother initially thought Somer had wandered over to a friend's house - or off with a friend - on the way home from school, so did the police. According to their presser, they get numerous calls of this nature involving children Somer's age (which just blows my mind, btw) where it turns out that the child really has wandered off to play with a friend.

 

[SharetheLight]

Does this make any sense? I thought the names listed on that report were of witnesses that LE actually talked to. So how is it that a woman in Florida thought she saw a RSO from Texas in the area and knew his name, birthdate, address, telephone number and place of employment? Or was all that info just put down when his name was run through the LE computer and that was the last info they had for him? How does she know him? Was that woman CS? Or did LE talk to someone without getting their name and some woman tried to provide it for them? Do we know if that RSO had an airtight alibi that he was in Texas on the day of the disappearance? That whole thing still sounds really fishy to me. Who is the mystery woman who gave them that name? Why would she know him and who might she be trying to cover for?

BBM
this very well could be the case.
Let's say that some woman out there knows something, and rather than be grilled about what she knows, she deflects by telling LE, oh I thought I saw CWG, knowing that CWG is a bad dude. All of the sudden the focus shifts to CWG and away from the woman who provided the info.
I'd like to know who named him, by mistake :waitasec:

And how would she know him? Well maybe she has info on who DID do it and they are a RSO who hung with a fellow RSO, CWG.

It's a stretch I know, but I find it curious that such a bad dude as CWG is, that someone just accidently named him as possibly being nearby that day. Either he was near and high tailed it back to TX (which i am sure was checked out) or someone is covering for someone else, or someone really did think they saw CWG and his name ended up on a missing child report.