FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #38

[Noway]

LOL Noway! This isn't her first rodeo........ I think she is fully aware what she is saying and the ramifications her statements potentially hold.

I know who she is.

I was asking someone here to explain her statements to me.

Why is what she said not the same as prime suspect?

 

[eyes4crime]

I know who she is.

I was asking someone here to explain her statements to me.

Why is what she said not the same as prime suspect?

Is she LE? As far as I know, only LE can name a person POI or Suspect! Afterall, they are doing the investigating. Anybody else know for sure? TIA

 

[Noway]

Is she LE? As far as I know, only LE can name a person POI or Suspect! Afterall, they are doing the investigating. Anybody else know for sure? TIA

That is what I wanted explained. WHO has to say it?

CCSO is not naming him a suspect and always refers to him as a POI. But the States Attorney can call him a primary suspect?

Confusing to me. (ETA: They are all part of the judicial process ... so why is it okay for one part to call him a suspect ... if indeed that is what her words meant ...)

ETA
In all the cases I'm Googling, it says 'police named ________ a suspect/POI' so I guess it is the police and the States Attorney can say anything she wants.

And here is [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning"]Miranda Warning[/ame] info; police read Miranda rights upon arrest ...

 

[crocus]

I know who she is.

I was asking someone here to explain her statements to me.

Why is what she said not the same as prime suspect?

My post was not inferring "who she is". I meant that she has many years experience and her words, IMO, reflect that.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Maybe primary suspect and prime suspect are not the same thing.

I was just worried she was screwing up the case.

Noway:

I was wondering the same thing. The way she said it struck me as odd.

It's been stated since the beginning JH is a POI. He has not been named a suspect by the CCSO that I'm aware of.

Then, in that interview, she did say the word primary and suspect in the same sentence. :waitasec:

Seems to me that since there is such a big difference as far as using the word POI and Suspect, it would not have been said like that.

Anyway, I agree...odd. All I can think is maybe they are really close to naming him suspect and in their minds, he's a suspect, even though he has not been named that. IDK

 

[LogicalMinds]

I personally think that this is not for "our" benefit, people want this "solved"..but when LE rushes or does not follow all the regulations we end up with a "hung jury" or a case where
they can't even prosecute a creep cause they didn't follow the umpteen gazillion rules

I think the LE here has done a good job...they don't have to tell everyone all that they are doing..they have been on top of things, found Somer, they are building a case

it is not a tv movie of the week that is solved in an hour and a half JMO

 

[cathdawg]

I was just thinking that if Harrell's car was confiscated the same day he was arrested ( Feb 11) LE would need to process his car to tie him to Somer's case. I have no idea how long this would take. 22 days so far. I was trying to remember in the Caylee Anthony case how long it took Forensics to process her car. I think it was about 4 weeks?

 

[cathdawg]

Re Caylee Anthony , Her DNA was found in Casey's car Aug 11, car was impounded July 16 th , I think, so......3-4 weeks.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Even though J.H. has been arrested in relation to said charges, and named as a POI, only by L.E. so far, does that mean he will now be oficially labelled as an RSO.? I imagine it will be on file now that he is that, from the charges against him.
What about the other S.O's, 24 of them in fact in close proximity to where Somer was living. To be labeled that, i wonder what they did? I wonder if they also were held on a "no bond", when they came to L.E's attention for their crimes? I wonder what qualifies these people to be named a S.O.? Usually i would of thought child molestation in some form or another, or some crime against a child? Otherwise they would not be named S.O.'s?
I wonder if J.H.'s father was asked for DNA because he was an S.O?, obviously a registered one. Just wondering!

 

[houndstooth]

That is what I wanted explained. WHO has to say it?

CCSO is not naming him a suspect and always refers to him as a POI. But the States Attorney can call him a primary suspect?

Confusing to me. (ETA: They are all part of the judicial process ... so why is it okay for one part to call him a suspect ... if indeed that is what her words meant ...)

ETA
In all the cases I'm Googling, it says 'police named ________ a suspect/POI' so I guess it is the police and the States Attorney can say anything she wants.

And here is Miranda Warning info; police read Miranda rights upon arrest ...

I was reading the exchanges here and have the same confusions as you.
Somewhere recently I recall reading that LE takes evidence to the DA to determine what charges can and will be filed. The state attorney coming out with these tippy-toe around statements seems unusual. The statement is bothersome for me in that she appears to blur the line between POI and Prime suspect to make it seem they are the same. Yet legally we are told that they are not the same considering such things as the Miranda warning being given for one classification and not in the other. The whole "well whatever you want to call it" attitude seems haphazzard and yes, unprofessional.

 

[cathdawg]

I think Harrell's Bio Dad is a corrections officer. I believe LE went to Bio Dad as Harrell initially refused cooperate however they have Harrell's DNA now. Dad said in an article that he wonders if he really is his Bio Dad!

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I think Harrell's Bio Dad is a corrections officer. I believe LE went to Bio Dad as Harrell initially refused cooperate however they have Harrell's DNA now. Dad said in an article that he wonders if he really is his Bio Dad!

I guess if they have both the bio dad and J.H's DNA, they would know now if he is indeed the bio dad of J.H.
How can his bio dad be a corrections officer and a RSO? Or am i confused here as to who is who? LOL!

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Who was the dad living at the Gano house 2 weeks prior to Somer's death? Was it the weirdo stepdad?, and was he the RSO?

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

And didn't those people move quickly from that house and leave J.H there by himself?

 

[cathdawg]

The BIO Dad is not an RSO, I really do not know about anyone being an RSO, other than Harrel'ls Mon was married to that crazy man Newman, who married Harrell's sister as well as Mom, marriage was not recognized. She then lost custody of both Harrell and sis, Harrell was about 3 yrs old at the time.

 

[Noway]

HH is the bio dad as far as we know. He is a corrections officer. The SO that Rod Buchanan referred to was Jarred's stepdad Joseph Newman.

The stepdad that owns Gano house is GLD II. He is one into ham radio ops.

The stepdad who found child in a box in Jarred's room when Jarred was ~16 is RW.

I'll update my Who's Who. (TAKES YOU OUT OF WEBSLEUTHS) (may need to search for Jarred if it does not bring you to right spot)

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Noway:

I was wondering the same thing. The way she said it struck me as odd.

It's been stated since the beginning JH is a POI. He has not been named a suspect by the CCSO that I'm aware of.

Then, in that interview, she did say the word primary and suspect in the same sentence. :waitasec:

Seems to me that since there is such a big difference as far as using the word POI and Suspect, it would not have been said like that.

Anyway, I agree...odd. All I can think is maybe they are really close to naming him suspect and in their minds, he's a suspect, even though he has not been named that. IDK

"Primary", to me would mean first, wouldn't it? "Prime" might mean one and only suspect, as in the C.A. case.

 

[cathdawg]

Who was the dad living at the Gano house 2 weeks prior to Somer's death? Was it the weirdo stepdad?, and was he the RSO?

No, this is his Mom's latest Husband, married in 2005, I think. The weirdo step dad (Newman) was on the scene when Jared was 3 yrs old.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

No, this is his Mom's latest Husband, married in 2005, I think. The weirdo step dad (Newman) was on the scene when Jared was 3 yrs old.

Oh, i see. Thanks.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I am in no way excusing J.H's behaviour on what we know here, but it seems some people have not really had a chance from the get go in their lives!
I definitely think there should be some kind of test for people contemplating having children! A lot out there aren't fit to be parents, and it is very sad and tragic circumstances stem from that. That other weirdo step dad he had ,should have been in a psychiatric facility far as i'm concerned.