I’m not sure how this relates to my post that you quoted. I’m aware of what Kaila’s father testified. I would hope that he was also involved in watching Uriel if this was the case. As I posted a moment ago, Kaila felt she had reason to give her mother a second chance.
From what I have seen it didn't seem IMO that he was very involved in the babysitting, but I could be wrong. I almost wish I hadn't started following this disturbing trial. It's starting to seem like grandma is mentally impaired for one reason or another and her family isn't aware of it or in denial of it.JMO
It’s very common for families to fail to recognize how serious mental impairment is. It comes on gradually if it’s dementia and the impaired person is up and down and it can seem less serious depending on when you’re interacting. And based on my own experience with friends, you do tend to second guess yourself because you don’t want to believe it’s happening.
It may or not be the beginning of dementia or even Alzheimer's in addition to taking Ambien and whatever else. I don't know if she has had a complete mental evaluation and diagnostic tests or not as they are many and very involved to arrive at a diagnosis. It's difficult for me to accept that she is just forgetful or scatterbrained but it could also be that. JMOO
I hope more information is shared at sentencing. We’re all trying to make sense of this situation but it’s like a puzzle with a lot of pieces missing. Very frustrating, and very sad…and worse for the family.
he did say on the stand about picking Uriel up and bring her home and "TRACEY WOULD PICK UP" meaning to be he went about his business and Tracey was the caregiver.
i think the issue is what is giving her mother a second chance? I agree with that however it could have been joining their family for outings but care of the child solo would not, for most ,be an option.
And that would be a great question to ask her. Given it is a sleep aide and directions will always say "at bedtime" and also another big question is the dosage? How many was she taking and with the mention of some anti anxiety meds...well so many questions. Defense will use some of this for mitigation in sentencing but she was the one responsible for taking it and it would not have helped her case.
Right? It’s for sleeping. Why in the world was this woman taking a sleep aid in the middle of the day?
i think the reason so many of us are confused is it was an absolute whirlwind case with no real defense put up and before you could say one two three each witness was done. It was like why have this trial? No one thought she did this on purpose so why the "aggravated" charge? Again confusion. Jury out for a couple of hours..time for snack or lunch and verdict back. We are confused ...rightfully so as so much was left unsaid or to rumor only. I read and believe the husband was so concerned about his wife that he got her to go somewhere for inpatient to try to deal with what happened. He said she would not talk about it. I am still not sure she has talked about it. She was even uncertain when asked by judge if she wanted to testify. Sentencing day could be interesting and I have to assume in the inpatient hospital they got her meds sorted out?
Since Kaila’s reasoning for allowing her mother to watch Uriel is being questioned, I went back to the beginning of the thread where two articles discuss this. She doesn’t mention pressure from others, which I brought up earlier as a possible theory. I think the reason she states in the second article is very human and understandable, even if we might not feel the same way. She is a victim on Websleuths whether we agree with her reasoning or not.
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Daughter says mom should go to jail after her two toddlers died
Kaila Schock has tearfully requested her own mother go to prison over the death of her children Ezra, 16 months, and Uriel, seven months, who both died in her care.www.dailymail.co.uk
She knew her mother had lunch plans with friends and said she trusted them, as she rarely allowed her daughter to be unsupervised with Nix.
'Uri was at a restaurant with other people that I knew and trusted, they were in the friend group and were keeping her safe, and I had supervised many, many, many interactions at this point at my house,' she told WSVN.
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Toddler drowns, infant left in hot car less than a year apart at grandma’s house
One family. Two kids. Their deaths — both while in their grandmother Tracey's care. Hardee County grandmother charged after forgetting infant in a hot car.www.abcactionnews.com
Kaila and Drew said that after Ezra's death, they "didn't trust (Tracey) at all." And would never let their 4-year-old firstborn child go to their grandparent's home.
"We were anxious, but I loved my mother and I am a daughter that wanted her mom in her life in some capacity, and in that moment, I thought that I could believe in second chances," Kaila said. "When I was told that Ezra’s death was an accident, some sliver child part of me, thought, ‘Ok good, I get to keep this mom. This grandmother. This person.'"
Kaila and Drew were protective.
"The very minor amount of time that she saw my daughter was almost always supervised," Kaila said of her mom.
On Uriel's last day, Kaila said she knew her mom's plans.
"Uri was at a restaurant with other people that I knew and trusted, they were in the friend group and were keeping her safe, and I had supervised many, many, many interactions that this point at my house," Kaila said.
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Thank you both for your contributions. As many others have pointed out here, these two reports are in direct conflict. Uri was in TN’s care many hours after the supervised lunch with friends. And Grandpa says they watched Uri many times per week. So either TN was “supervised” by friends when she had Uri or she watched her unsupervised for many hours after lunch plus watched her unsupervised every week. It’s odd because both cannot be true. Moo
i go with Ney's last sentence.....he picks Uriel up and then "Tracey would pick up" which I think most would say means he goes upon his business which no doubt includes leaving the home and she is the caregiver. Clearly the lunch group was going to disband and Tracey would be driving Uriel to her house and watch until much later in the day. None of this is really up to question....these are facts as per the testimony. There was no defense used that said this day was a one off or unusual because it was the norm for this family.
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