For those who agree with the verdict...help me understand.

[LambChop]

Here's a link to her statement to LE . I think that's what you are referring to.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23070163/detail.html

Not sure how people feel this woman is honest and sincere and telling the truth on the stand when she admits she has had an affair with GA but when you look at the depo she says she is dropping flowers off to CA every week, has given her jewerly, has been to the house while CA was there. If she were having an affair with GA she'd have to be a cold-hearted person to be doing the nasty with GA at night and bringing CA flowers and gifts during the day. Either RC is lying or she is one cruel cookie. jmo

 

[beccalecca1]

Ok. You believe that since a drowning was possible, without any evidence to support that theory,the jury should come to the conclusion that is what actually happened.I think maybe they did. Evidence Caylee got into the pool by herself is what? A picture of her in the pool with Cindy?A picture of her at the sliding door that may have been already open? Testimony from River Cruz saying George BELIEVED it was an accident and Casey tried to cover it up? Not much evidence.

There was evidence to support that theory. The Anthony's didn't do anything to prevent Caylee from getting into the back yard. Although they claim they were religious about taking the ladder down, I think we are all human and forget (but that is speculation so the jury shouldn't think that. They could think that Cindy wasn't credible enough to be telling the truth though.). If the ladder was left down, and Caylee was in the back yard unsupervised, there was evidence that she could climb the ladder by herself.

But, in all seriousness, none of this truly matters. The state had the burden of proof to murder, manslaughter, or aggravated child abuse. They didn't have enough evidence to say Casey did it.

 

[Littleone48]

It's far fetched and imo ridiculous to 'understand' Caylee entering the pool alone and drowning. I'm sure you've heard the same responses for days on end.........an accidental drowning ends in someone calling 911...not with someone duct taping a babies mouth, throwing them in trash bags with their blanket and stashing them in the swamp behind one's house.:banghead:

Not so far fetched as you seem to think IMO. When my grandson was 3 years old we were all outside in the front yard the pool was in the backyard. IIRC we were all swimming earlier and had not taken the ladder out of the pool. Just by luck I looked through the garage just in time to see him jump into the pool. No life jacket, no swimming vest. He had been told never ever to go near the pool without an adult but he did. He loved to swim. If I had not happened to look when I did, God only knows what could've happened.

Yes if we did find him floating in the pool we certainly would've called 911 however we are NOT CA who through testimony was said not to handle things well. We also would not have thrown him away in a swamp.

I do think the drowning could've/did happen however I think it was more than a few minutes that she was in that pool. I am thinking it may have been a couple of hours, Casey panicked (that's why all of the calls in that time period) and just didn't know what to do. When her parents didn't answer I think CA did what CA had always done.

 

[beccalecca1]

I agree with much you say. But come on, RC/KH or what ever her real name is didn't have to say that she and George had a sexual relationship.She could have left it at their being good friends and that's why he confided in her. She changed her story to make it sound better to sell to the media.Just MOO.

Seriously?

And the only media outlet she sold out to was National Enquirer for $4K?

At least Roy Kronk got $15K for a picture of a snake that had nothing to do with this case.

I think if that were her intentions, she would've at least held out for a bigger offer.

 

[kelian36]

Not so far fetched as you seem to think IMO. When my grandson was 3 years old we were all outside in the front yard the pool was in the backyard. IIRC we were all swimming earlier and had not taken the ladder out of the pool. Just by luck I looked through the garage just in time to see him jump into the pool. No life jacket, no swimming vest. He had been told never ever to go near the pool without an adult but he did. He loved to swim. If I had not happened to look when I did, God only knows what could've happened.

Yes if we did find him floating in the pool we certainly would've called 911 however we are NOT CA who through testimony was said not to handle things well. We also would not have thrown him away in a swamp.

I do think the drowning could've/did happen however I think it was more than a few minutes that she was in that pool. I am thinking it may have been a couple of hours, Casey panicked (that's why all of the calls in that time period) and just didn't know what to do. When her parents didn't answer I think CA did what CA had always done.

Thank you so much for sharing your story. I'm extremely glad your grandson is ok.

 

[Just Jayla]

Not sure how people feel this woman is honest and sincere and telling the truth on the stand when she admits she has had an affair with GA but when you look at the depo she says she is dropping flowers off to CA every week, has given her jewerly, has been to the house while CA was there. If she were having an affair with GA she'd have to be a cold-hearted person to be doing the nasty with GA at night and bringing CA flowers and gifts during the day. Either RC is lying or she is one cruel cookie. jmo

I figured the only way that was true was if she was on the loopy train to Loopyville, with JoyW as the conductor. And based on the video of her with Kalani on the day Caylee was found, well....All Aboard!

 

[Just Jayla]

Seriously?

And the only media outlet she sold out to was National Enquirer for $4K?

At least Roy Kronk got $15K for a picture of a snake that had nothing to do with this case.

I think if that were her intentions, she would've at least held out for a bigger offer.

I don't think RM and Kio got that much either...RK=bidness man of the year in the category of garnering money for useless items!

 

[Deleted member 39678]

There was evidence to support that theory. The Anthony's didn't do anything to prevent Caylee from getting into the back yard. Although they claim they were religious about taking the ladder down, I think we are all human and forget (but that is speculation so the jury shouldn't think that. They could think that Cindy wasn't credible enough to be telling the truth though.). If the ladder was left down, and Caylee was in the back yard unsupervised, there was evidence that she could climb the ladder by herself.

But, in all seriousness, none of this truly matters. The state had the burden of proof to murder, manslaughter, or aggravated child abuse. They didn't have enough evidence to say Casey did it.

Ok. I'll give you that all those things are evidence of a possibility of a drowning. Not that it actually happened. Now, did the state prove their case? That's a another story altogether.

 

[beccalecca1]

Ok. But you said there was evidence that she drowned.

So you really didn't mean that?
You meant there was evidence she COULD have drowned.

Ok.

So was there evidence she slipped in the tub and hit her head?
Was there was evidence she stuck a fork in an electric socket?
Was there evidence she went to sleep and just didn't wake up???

I could go on but really, what's the point?

Any of those things COULD have happened.
But there is no evidence of any of them.

There was, however, evidence that she was murdered.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the other "could have happened" statements.

There were pictures showing how she could've gotten out of the house and into the pool, and testimony stating that there wasn't precautions taken to prevent that. I don't recall hearing anything in the case about her slipping in the tub, putting a fork in a light socket, or went to sleep and didn't wake up.

I do realize that you're attempting to say the defense's statements were as ridiculous as the statements that you just made, but I disagree.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Seriously?

And the only media outlet she sold out to was National Enquirer for $4K?

At least Roy Kronk got $15K for a picture of a snake that had nothing to do with this case.

I think if that were her intentions, she would've at least held out for a bigger offer.

Seriously?RC/KH lied for 4K and RK lied for 15k?
Is that the point your trying to make?

 

[LambChop]

BBM After she testified she was on in-session and she stated that there were MANY other text but that was the only 1 they allowed in court. She stated that if you saw ALL of the text you would know that there was an affair not just a friendship that GA led us to think.

RC's sister also said on an online blog that her sister had proof, she had intimate pictures to prove there was an affair. There were no pictures only one of RC and GA sitting in a kidfinders tent. If JB had proof of a text he would have used it. No one has ever seen pictures, texts, no bank receipts of withdrawals for the money she claims she gave GA has ever surfaced. The sister was in jail the same time as KC for trying to sell stolen jewerly to a pawn broker using RC's id. RC lied to LE in a sworn deposition, sworn. There is just no credibility here. jmo

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

So for those who think GA may have been the caregiver, would this testimony by Tracy Conroy have made a difference? I feel she should have been called as a witness.



http://m.examiner.com/examiner/pm_60959/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=7dUsKYej

KH said in her interview basically the same thing, that George told her that he yelled at Casey to tell him what happened. Ashton asked George if he said that and he denied it. Ashton asked KH if he told her that and it was objected to and sustained. It's hearsay, so that's probably why they didn't use Tracy. There was other hearsay testimony like that that would have helped the state's case that they didn't try to use (like that Cindy and Casey had a big fight on 6/15) likely since it would get objected and GA and CA would deny it.

Anyway, the idea that George had anything to do with it is so clearly false and it's disgusting how he has been so slandered by the DT with impunity.

 

[LambChop]

Seriously?

And the only media outlet she sold out to was National Enquirer for $4K?

At least Roy Kronk got $15K for a picture of a snake that had nothing to do with this case.

I think if that were her intentions, she would've at least held out for a bigger offer.

Maybe the National Enquirer did a background check?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Not sure how people feel this woman is honest and sincere and telling the truth on the stand when she admits she has had an affair with GA but when you look at the depo she says she is dropping flowers off to CA every week, has given her jewerly, has been to the house while CA was there. If she were having an affair with GA she'd have to be a cold-hearted person to be doing the nasty with GA at night and bringing CA flowers and gifts during the day. Either RC is lying or she is one cruel cookie. jmo

I'm not sure if she had an affair with GA or not.I really don't care.But her testimony shows deception.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Ironically the judge instructed the jury explicitly not to consider RC testimony as evidence of "an accident that snowballed out of control."

BBM: I don't recall that. I'll try to find her testimony and review but I really don't recall that.

I remember it. Perry said KH's answer on the question could only be used to impeach George, not as evidence for the fact of an accident. That appears to be why it was allowed even though it was hearsay. It's presumably one of the exceptions to the hearsay prohibition (any lawyers here might better explain).

 

[GracieLu]

Not sure how people feel this woman is honest and sincere and telling the truth on the stand when she admits she has had an affair with GA but when you look at the depo she says she is dropping flowers off to CA every week, has given her jewerly, has been to the house while CA was there. If she were having an affair with GA she'd have to be a cold-hearted person to be doing the nasty with GA at night and bringing CA flowers and gifts during the day. Either RC is lying or she is one cruel cookie. jmo

I certainly dont think she is honest and sincere.... imo, the more sleazy the story the more money she would make (in her mind). And, I too believe she is a "cold hearted person" just because if I were in that situation, where I had an affair and it somehow got thrown in a court case, the last thing I would do afterwards would be to give an interview in which I smirked and said I was the one who initiated it. OMG I would be holding my head in shame! I have a brother-in-law who has cheated several times and a sister who keeps taking him back (while I hold my tongue, at her request, and try not to throw turkey at him during Thanksgiving dinner, lol)...

So, imo she is lying and one cruel cookie!!!

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Krystal Holloway(aka River Cruz) told police investigators this." He.. he just said that, I really BELIEVE that it was an accident. And she tried to cover it up." If you can believe KH it appears George is telling her what he thinks may have happened.

Page 16-17 line 24-1 of her statement under oath on Feb. 17, 2010.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23070163/detail.html

Even if George said to KH, "It was an accident that snowballed" she can't tell from that whether he meant he believed or knew it. She even said she didn't not question him about it, so he did not clarify it to her.

And if you combine that quote with the other quote attributed to GA by KH, that he threw CMA against the wall and demanded answers, then it's clear KH does not help CMA (though that was not allowed in court).

 

[beccalecca1]

Seriously?RC/KH lied for 4K and RK lied for 15k?
Is that the point your trying to make?

No, the comment was that she lied to sell her story to the media, and I'm finding it hard to believe that she'd lie to tell her story to the Enquirer for $4K, when Kronk got $15K for a picture of a snake that had nothing to do with the case. If she was only lying to sell her story, wouldn't she have told her story to someone who'd pay her more? The story she told has more importance, IMO, then a picture of a dead rattle snake. MOO

 

[Just Jayla]

I certainly dont think she is honest and sincere.... imo, the more sleazy the story the more money she would make (in her mind). And, I too believe she is a "cold hearted person" just because if I were in that situation, where I had an affair and it somehow got thrown in a court case, the last thing I would do afterwards would be to give an interview in which I smirked and said I was the one who initiated it. OMG I would be holding my head in shame! I have a brother-in-law who has cheated several times and a sister who keeps taking him back (while I hold my tongue, at her request, and try not to throw turkey at him during Thanksgiving dinner, lol)...

So, imo she is lying and one cruel cookie!!!

Right you are!!

The whole thing was staged to make GA look like a jerk, and as other posters hear noted about the jury consultant who intended to make GA look bad-it worked for that jury. Because if it were true, he is a jerk. He's a jerk for the and the thing with his dad and the joblessness anyway. So he's a jerk-What does it have to do with Caylee's murder if the information was not successful in impeaching him? Nada! No evidenciary connection between jerkiness and liar that tossed his granddaughter out like garbage!!!

Of note: If the defense were so concerned with who's a cheating liar, they should have spoken more with DomC-Just sayin'...But they weren't, they were concerned with casting doubt upon KC via making GA out to be Jerky McJerkiman and getting him out of dodge so Mother Goo...er, Cindy could shine for them as the poor victim of her cheating man. According to RC, though, CA knew darn well that somethin was fishy and confronted RC outright. RC made it seem like she had CA's permission and I am just shocked that the jury did not hear that portion 'splained-NOT!

 

[Deleted member 39678]

No, the comment was that she lied to sell her story to the media, and I'm finding it hard to believe that she'd lie to tell her story to the Enquirer for $4K, when Kronk got $15K for a picture of a snake that had nothing to do with the case. If she was only lying to sell her story, wouldn't she have told her story to someone who'd pay her more? The story she told has more importance, IMO, then a picture of a dead rattle snake. MOO

I'm not sure what you mean. Her "story" was more important than a dead snake picture, but she got less money.Yes, that's what happened.Why, I don't know. I wouldn't pay 15 cents for a dead snake picture.