France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #2

[FindHG]

Paul Ryan calls for pause in refugee program
Deirdre Walsh Profile
By Deirdre Walsh, CNN Senior Congressional Producer
Updated 10:47 AM ET, Tue November 17, 2015






http://www.cnn.com/

 

[FLmom777]

I wouldn't call it poignant since the son was one of the gunmen at the concert.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...her-tried-extract-son-isis-syria-samy-amimour

The father of one of the gunmen who killed scores of concert-goers in Paris had tried unsuccessfully last year to bring his son back from Syria where he had joined Islamic State (Isis).

Mohamed Amimour, 67, spoke about his failed attempt to extract his son, Samy, from the control of Isis commanders, telling the French newspaper Le Monde afterwards how he had been greeted with coldness and “a distant sort of smile”.

If you look at it through the eyes of the father it is poignant. He has the added stress of not only losing his son but feeling guilt because he couldn't stop him.

 

[popsicle]

AirLive.net ‏@airlivenet 8m8 minutes ago
ALERT First charter flight carrying around 100 Syrian refugees arrives at Glasgow airport - @NewsHazbail

 

[Bravo]

Then you know after a couple days one of the refugees left and CC doesn't know where the person went?

https://www.facebook.com/1004358556...358556254366/1074153822608172/?type=3&fref=nf

Good to see you popsicle. Exactly and that's my worry for the influx expected in Canada. I worry about the screening and the fact that nobody will be aware of who goes where and when. I feel for the refugees and want to help them. Yet not at a cost of any lives here. So torn......sigh

 

[leah]

What should we do? Where should we put the refugees? I do understand that people are afraid, that we have a lot of issues in this country that needs attention, and how is this country going to take care and vet each and everyone of the refugees? What kills me is seeing post after post on my facebook timeline from people I do know and people I don't know that are so callous and cruel, I don't think they realize that when their loved ones are killed they grieve just like the rest of us. And I won't lie, I've fallen into the trap of being afraid myself, even though during the years I've met and had friends that were Muslim, one family being one of the kindest I've ever met. I don't think there is a solution, I'm open to listening, but I'm afraid leaders don't have a clue to what exactly they should do. My one grandpa was born and raised in Belgium before the family came to Michigan, and my other grandpa was French. I have wanted to go visit and see the countries for myself, and I'm not a person that hides in fear, but I would be concerned going there now.

 

[FindHG]

Huge mtg about logistics, attacks on that...
10 sats focused on targetting
Twice as many strikes
Given French air carrier in region, Russia extends alley status to France
Rented to places on the outskirts of Paris (catch map)
More activity here

security activity
Alsdorf: 3 #? men #? woman arrested as they left a job center and back into their car


cont. manhunt

France 24 expert Wasim who found their ringleader [freak not shown here who is thought to be in Syria] in a picture where he was dragging bodies to a mass grave, confirming his [freakish] nature, which was not permitted to be shown on their broadcasts, advocates for real coordination on intelligence. Guesses the bombers blew themselves up based on time to give the crews to hit inside Paris, draw security forces to the Stadium. Not amatures, pros, 'one step beyond'...

http://www.france24.com/en/ loosely paraphrased livestream


http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/to-france-from-a-post-911-america-lessons-we-learned-too-late/
haven't read yet, to pull useful quotes, if any WS would like to help with this?

 

[ZaZara]

http://duitslandnieuws.nl/archief/2...-voortvluchtig-bij-aken/?utm_source=hootsuite

A sixth person has been arrested near Aachen, Germany, according to Rheinische Post.

 

[Momoffourboys]

The Mothers Of ISIS

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/mothers-of-isis/

 

[Nana]

If you look at it through the eyes of the father it is poignant. He has the added stress of not only losing his son but feeling guilt because he couldn't stop him.

I would bet he didn't report it either.
So I don't feel for the father at all! JMO

 

[SophieRose]

Years ago watched the documentary "God Grew Tired of Us: The Story of Lost Boys of Sudan", about three refugees from Sudan. In it the men do not have that long to acclimate to their new environment before they must find jobs. Here it says it is that way for all refugees.

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/11/syrian_refugee_controversy_how.html

It's crucial for refugees to get a job as soon as possible, because they don't receive much money. Each individual gets an up-front, one-time allowance of $1,125 from the federal government, which Catholic Charities uses to help set up their housing. From there, they may receive refugee cash assistance of $335 per month for as long as eight months. Depending on employment status and whether they have children, the refugees might also be eligible for food stamps.

 

[Elley Mae]

Just caught this, I heard conversation about it this am on ham radio but waited to see something in print, not sure what happened but I guess folks are spooked about flying right now. jmo

Passengers removed after 'suspicious activity' aboard plane at BWI

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-ar-bwi-flight-delayed-20151117-story.html

The 28-year-old Baltimore man said two men and a woman were taken off the flight first and that they took their carry-on bags off as well. He said officials returned to remove the fourth person, a man.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/officials-passengers-removed-plane-baltimore-35250191

 

[Bravo]

Snipped.

Gosh. I hope we don't have 72 virgins on Websleuths, lol! That would be so sad!

:lol:

 

[CARIIS]

Ponderings ....


It just occurred to me all this "rampped up security" if you think about , if one has two legs and a suicide bomb on them .......................

Also this has been called called complicated, casue it was coordinated, how much do you really need to blow yourself up and aim guns at people?


It seems the foucus is off , energy should be spent to foil as suppossed to thinking our guys standing around with guns, if they have suicide vests the guys in guns really mean not a whole lot no?

 

[ZaZara]

http://www.derwesten.de/politik/dre...ch-terroranschlaegen-in-paris-id11295081.html

Sieben Festnahmen bei Aachen nach Terroranschlägen in Paris


Alsdorf. The police have arrested seven people in Alsdorf near Aachen. The operation is linked to the terrorist attacks in Paris. After the series of attacks in Paris, the police in Alsdorf near Aachen has arrested two other men near the border with the Netherlands on Tuesday. A police spokesman in Aachen said that a total of seven people were arrested. The two men were arrested in an apartment building by special forces of the police. Currently their identity is being checked and whether a connection with the attacks in Paris exists.

BBM


In total, two women and five men have been arrested today near Aachen

 

[FindHG]

If you look at it through the eyes of the father it is poignant. He has the added stress of not only losing his son but feeling guilt because he couldn't stop him.

It's brave of him to share the specific of his experience. I hope he keeps going and tells other parents, especially everything that could help LE, what he took from his experience and what he could have done differently that could have made a difference, to help.

 

[Tadpole12]

One third of refugees are children:

DW
26.09.2015
Syria refugees child's drawing leaves German police 'speechless'

Please look at this picture:
http://www.dw.com/en/syria-refugee-childs-drawing-leaves-german-police-speechless/a-18743093

DW
04.11.2015
The emotional wounds of refugee children
http://www.dw.com/en/the-emotional-wounds-of-refugee-children/a-18829030

 

[FindHG]

Associated Press reports French Authorities are seeking a second fugitive, who has been ID'd.

French soccer player who lost his cousin in the attacks will play, as will another whose sister survived the attacks, in the French/British game.

Details scarce on second fugitive



found near ring road. SA rented it. Recorded going back and forth to Belg repeatedly.



http://www.france24.com/en/

 

[FLmom777]

The Mothers Of ISIS

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/mothers-of-isis/

This is just so sad.

 

[cottonweaver]

apparently they are seeking a second fugitive, French security have just announced. Hope this does not lead to any further bloodshed via explosive vests etc.

 

[bluesneakers]

Ponderings ....

It just occurred to me all this "rampped up security" if you think about , if one has two legs and a suicide bomb on them .......................

Also this has been called called complicated, casue it was coordinated, how much do you really need to blow yourself up and aim guns at people?

It seems the foucus is off , energy should be spent to foil as suppossed to thinking our guys standing around with guns, if they have suicide vests the guys in guns really mean not a whole lot no?

Lately I've been pondering all the places someone wearing a suicide vest can go and kill a large number of people without having to worry about security or metal detectors. A 12yo could make a pipe bomb, including the gunpowder!

We need to get ahead of this.