GUILTY France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, including Bataclan concert hall, 13 Nov 2015 *arrest* #4

[Gigi-G]

Seeing now that the Saint Bernardino slaying has been possibly linked to Terrorism. Altho no one has admitted to whom or what or why.. and search profiling is proving difficult for 1 of the deceased subjects under the name given.
Work disgruntlement. Or terrorism?
Imo I'm sat on the wall. Usually ISIS are quick at claiming responsibility.
A bust up with a work colleague?... serious overkill there.
So another factor involved?
Toughie.

Also Molotov cocktails bomb n burn out an Egyptian hotels night time bar/club. 30 believed dead. Thru blasts and/or smoke inhalation. Possible terrorist activity. : RT.

 

[cuffem]

The cafe in Paris that was attacked opened up today.sorry for no link having trouble with linking.
Also wanted to mention there are tour groups booked up to tour Molenbeek I think I will pass,it is enough to visit the south train station.

 

[Bohemian]

'Anonymous to troll ISlS with goats on ‘Day of Rage’'
Techworm
Technology section
by Vijay Prabhu
December 3, 2015

'Anonymous have taken trolling ISIS and their affiliates pretty seriously. Now their troll attack against ISIS has a new weapon: goats.

According to Mail Online, Anonymous will be holding anti-ISIS ‘Day of Rage’ demonstrations in major cities across the world.'

http://www.techworm.net/2015/12/anonymouss-next-weapon-is-goat-on-day-of-rage.html

'Anonymous hacktivists announce plan to 'mock' ISIS by posting images of their dead fighters online and bombarding their Twitter feeds with photos of goats'
by Darren Boyle
Mail Online
19:14 01 Dec 2015
updated 00:50 02 Dec 2015

'"You may be wondering why we are ‘trolling’ Isis and planning all these demonstrations against Isis,” the spokesperson for Anonymous says.

“They thrive off of fear, they hope that by their actions they can silence all of us and get us to just lay low and hide in fear. But what many forget, and even they do, is that there are many more people in the world against them than for them.”


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ne-bombarding-Twitter-feeds-photos-goats.html

 

[ZaZara]

TWO NEW SUSPECTS IN PARIS ATTACKS USED FAKE ID'S

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Paris-attack-suspects-used-fake-ID-cards.html





The Belgian Federal Prosecutor's office said the men, carrying bogus IDs with the names of Samir Bouzid and Soufiane Kayal, were travelling in a Mercedes with another at-large suspect, Salah Abdeslam, when the car was checked on September 9 at the Hungarian-Austrian border.

The Kayal identity was used to rent a house in the Belgian town of Auvelais that authorities searched as a possible site for making the suicide bombs used in the November 13 attacks in Paris.

Belgian authorities said the false ID in the name of Bouzid was used at a Western Union office in the Brussels area at about 6pm on November 17.
The suspect sent a 750-euro (£540) money order to Hasna Ait Boulhacen, cousin of the purposed attack ringleader, Abdelhamid Abaaoud.
Boulhacen and Abaaoud died on November 18 when French police stormed their hideout in a Paris suburb.

Police are still hunting for Europe's most wanted Salah Abdeslam and fellow suspect Mohammed Abrini, both who were seen driving towards the Belgian border.


BBM

 

[dotr]

Not great pics, but just to show what they may look like in photocopy documents, imo.
http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/World/2015/12/04/22580083.html

 

[wendiesan]

I'm not sure but Anons are the closest entity we have to Iolaus.

Great reference. FWIW Iolaus saw the Hydra was growing two heads for every one lopped off by Hercules, so cauterized the necks once the heads were removed. Exposing CloudFlare as protecting Isis recruiters, for instance, could be seen as sealing one neck. It's now up to the feds to take their own action on CloudFlare. CloudFare reps have said they would abide by legitimate requests or demands of authorities.

I think Anonymous also becomes a kind of "Greek Chorus". They've sure broken through the "fourth wall" and taken their case directly to the audience.

 

[wendiesan]

bbm, On that note I do wonder about the Muslim countries and why they are not opening their arms to the refugee crisis. jmo idk

Probably for the same reason they are not opening their arms, or their borders, to the Palestinians. JMO

 

[Ragamuffin]

I am glad EODM are playing in Paris on Sunday, and glad U2 invited them. If you haven't seen the interview the band did after the attacks, the link in in the article below. It's hard to watch.

http://variety.com/2015/music/news/u2-eagles-of-death-metal-paris-concert-1201653669/

 

[katydid23]

I am glad EODM are playing in Paris on Sunday, and glad U2 invited them. If you haven't seen the interview the band did after the attacks, the link in in the article below. It's hard to watch.

http://variety.com/2015/music/news/u2-eagles-of-death-metal-paris-concert-1201653669/

I hope they have some very tight security.

 

[ZaZara]

FORGED IDENTITY PAPERS BIG BUSINESS FOR TRAFFICKERS IN GREECE

Ekathimerini.com
http://www.ekathimerini.com/203930/...papers-big-business-for-traffickers-in-greece

In early October, 12 suspects from Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq and Syria were arrested in Athens on charges of belonging to a criminal organization.
According to the police, the suspects had set up a racket to smuggle migrants and refugees from Greece to Western Europe. At least seven of the suspects are said to have been working in Athens and on Kos, one of the eastern Aegean islands that has been receiving the bulk of arrivals from Turkey over the past several months. Today, most of the suspects are in pretrial custody as the investigation continues, while another 18 have been identified or are being sought.

(...)

According to the judicial case file, the racket would alter genuine travel documents issued by European or other countries or make passports from scratch, mainly appearing to be from Syria or Pakistan. They also tried to hoodwink authorities by affixing fake entry and exit stamps. “If they see entry and exit stamps they believe the person was coming and going,” said one member of the network in a telephone conversation recorded on June 14.

The forgers would also create “clones,” meaning they would use the data (name, date of birth, residence permit) which coincided with that in the genuine passport. They would often use the details of gang members for their forgeries. The price of a passport could come to as much as 800 euros depending on the quality.

Refugees and migrants would send the forger they were in touch with a photograph via Facebook or the mobile app Viber. They would pay between 2,200 and 3,000 euros for travel documents and air tickets. The airplane reservations were made from a barber shop in the Athens neighborhood of Tavros, while the money would be deposited with a guarantor (minimarkets or currency exchange bureaus). There, using the hawala system, the travelers would be given a code and when they reached their destination, this code would be sent to the smuggler so her could cash the money. The guarantor's cut was 100 euros.

(...)

In May, two cardboard boxes arrived at Athens International Airport from China addressed to a minimarket in Rendi. The customs officers who checked them discovered that they contained 4,000 forged residence permits. The prints, on adhesive paper so they could be affixed to passports, were extremely well made and were identical to the ones issued by the Greek authorities. The value of one single such document is estimated by experts at around 600 euros.


BBM


Much more at link.


Authorities have no idea at all who is entering the EU under the guise of refugee, and how will they ever be able to find out?

 

[BirdycatNY]

So it seems there is an increase of terrorist (ISIS affiliated/claims) attacks within the last couple months: Russian plane bombed, Lebanon bombing, Paris explosion/shootings, Boko Haram bombings, CA terrorist shooting, etc. Does anyone think that high number in the last couple of months means something other than ISIS terror attacks? For example, it seems to me that ISIS is instigating large countries into a fight. Why would a fragmented terrorist organization like ISIS just decide to blitz on powerful countries like Russia, France etc or individuals just increase individual attacks? Assuming the recent terrorist attacks are coordinated by ISIS, the different methods make me think that this is some really well funded larger group or sympathizers somehow; and I don't think it would be from Syrian government, or U.S., France, Russia or Syrian rebels/other terrorist groups (are other rebels or terrorists in Syria that well-funded and connected outside of Syria?). If there is a coordination of recent global ISIS attacks, who is coordinating it, who is funding it and why would they provoke fighting in Syria, is it because ISIS is losing so may be they are going all out or retaliation? I think this goes beyond ISIS trying to get more propaganda or copycats though, but all Jmo.

2015 ISIS related attacks
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...leeast/map-isis-attacks-around-the-world.html

Video footage of the alleged aftermath of Russia bombing ISIS oil trucks in Syria just emerged
http://www.businessinsider.com/vide...air-strikes-on-isis-syrian-oil-trucks-2015-12

The US, Britain, and Russia have cited their plans to air bomb ISIS-controlled oil fields in a bid to hurt its main means of funding. However, that's likely not nearly enough to significantly affect the terrorist group's bottom line, according to a recent report in The New York Times.

i.e.- so who are the buyers and people who help coordinate movement of ISIS related goods?

 

[cuffem]

http://news.yahoo.com/weak-gets-tough-paris-belgium-raises-spy-game-091830655.html

Belgium raises spy game.

 

[cuffem]

http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/News/1.2515090
Paris bomber had UK link.

 

[cuffem]

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/06/europe/london-tube-stabbings/

3people stabbed on London tube.

 

[Colin de France]

So it seems there is an increase of terrorist (ISIS affiliated/claims) attacks within the last couple months: Russian plane bombed, Lebanon bombing, Paris explosion/shootings, Boko Haram bombings, CA terrorist shooting, etc. Does anyone think that high number in the last couple of months means something other than ISIS terror attacks? For example, it seems to me that ISIS is instigating large countries into a fight. Why would a fragmented terrorist organization like ISIS just decide to blitz on powerful countries like Russia, France etc or individuals just increase individual attacks? Assuming the recent terrorist attacks are coordinated by ISIS, the different methods make me think that this is some really well funded larger group or sympathizers somehow; and I don't think it would be from Syrian government, or U.S., France, Russia or Syrian rebels/other terrorist groups (are other rebels or terrorists in Syria that well-funded and connected outside of Syria?). If there is a coordination of recent global ISIS attacks, who is coordinating it, who is funding it and why would they provoke fighting in Syria, is it because ISIS is losing so may be they are going all out or retaliation? I think this goes beyond ISIS trying to get more propaganda or copycats though, but all Jmo.

2015 ISIS related attacks
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...leeast/map-isis-attacks-around-the-world.html

Video footage of the alleged aftermath of Russia bombing ISIS oil trucks in Syria just emerged
http://www.businessinsider.com/vide...air-strikes-on-isis-syrian-oil-trucks-2015-12
i.e.- so who are the buyers and people who help coordinate movement of ISIS related goods?

....the head of ISIS asked for a califat and ordered attacks to be made at the discretion of terrorists all over the world, that's why there's been a sudden increase.........

 

[ZaZara]

....the head of ISIS asked for a califat and ordered attacks to be made at the discretion of terrorists all over the world, that's why there's been a sudden increase.........

Also, the cost of these attacks is low, the small sums of money needed are often paid for by credit cards or small loans that they do not intend to pay back anyway....

Look up Hawala and you'll see why it is extra complicated to follow the money.

Here are some finacial data from the Charlie-Hebdo and Hyper Casher attacks:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...azine-Charlie-Hebdo-1&p=11391116#post11391116

The report states:


According to the local press, the man sold Coulibaly the Skorpion submachine guns he used in the attack, as well as the rocket propelled grenade launcher and the Kalashnikov automatic assault rifles that Said and Cherif Kouachi used to perpetrate the massacre at the offices of Charlie Hebdo. The weapons were purchased near the Midi railway station in downtown Brussels for less than 5,000 euros, according to the reports.

French media reports Wednesday morning said that the funding for the arms purchase was simply a standard loan of 6,000 euros ($7,050) that Coulibaly took out on December 4 from the French financial-services firm Cofidis. He used his real name but falsely stated his monthly income on the loan declaration, a statement the company didn't bother to check, the reports say.


BBM


I've been busy getting a loan here, had to fill in loads of paperwork and provide copies ... I should have gone to Cofidis instead!
Current interest rate is 6.99% -> 7%
With extra insurance, it's + 0.7%

Personal loans, also known as installment loans, are repayment loans that allow you to borrow €7501 - € 50 000 to fully fund a product or a project (whatever it is) without any justification of use. You may then use your money for all your personal needs.

 

[NSS]

Also, the cost of these attacks is low, the small sums of money needed are often paid for by credit cards or small loans that they do not intend to pay back anyway....

Look up Hawala and you'll see why it is extra complicated to follow the money.

Here are some finacial data from the Charlie-Hebdo and Hyper Casher attacks:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...azine-Charlie-Hebdo-1&p=11391116#post11391116

Hawala is like Western Union. Money and a password, 2 middle men, recipient gives password, gets cash.

 

[BirdycatNY]

....the head of ISIS asked for a califat and ordered attacks to be made at the discretion of terrorists all over the world, that's why there's been a sudden increase.........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi
Is the head of ISIS very wealthy or does he have wealthy backers that armed initial operations, equipment etc? http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/is...hy-gulf-angel-investors-officials-say-n208006

I think there is more than just the Caliphate as goal though or at least ISIS public claim. For example, organized crime/gangs/mafia in the US operate primarily to make money through illicit means like drug, human and gun trafficking, operate like bastardized corporation and conduct business. The wealthy cartels dupe their members into believing it serves some "higher" purpose. That's just a recruiting tool to get low level lemming dealers to do their illegal jobs for pittance, while high level dealer/cartel heads are fat cats. It wouldn't surprise me for example, if some wealthy Saudi or other businessperson involved in multiple industries like oil, transport or something else is trying to break into the market of places like Syria, Libya, or Nigeria to expand his business empire (land grabs, extra resources), and financing ISIS as a way to accomplish his business interests. ISIS funding can't be from just oil or taxes and would think these Syria ISIS militants are not savvy in business affairs or military coordination in other areas. The perversion of religion is just a way to get desperate people to become lemmings for a cause, but the cause could simply be a business venture for some cartel. But Idk and I am assuming there is planned coordination (more centralized) of recent ISIS/Boko Haram attacks and not just lone wolf type fanatical followers. It easily could be simply what you say though. Just some speculation and jmo/

 

[CARIIS]

took a break ....like you all news junkies....with the last month ...its like I want to check in on whats going on...

but it has become like "dread", not afraid scared for me "dread"

I loved Burger Kings campain " have it your way ", it was so catchy, and my faoritest voice Vivki Sue Robinson was the voice of DOulbe your pleasure double your fun !

See something say something catchy!!

Useless- but catchy.....

Do I have the skill set to detect a knive weilding murderer - nope

Do I have the skill set to to foresee an axe killer aiming for my neck? nope

Do I have the skill set to determine if another homosapian is wearing bombs on his her tummy? nope

Do I have the skill set to to determine someone is packing IUDs - nope

Do I have the skill set to notice someone has a gallon of gas in their back pack - no

Do I have the skill set to to know someone is packing a machine gun nope

Do I have the skill set to react to someone who has a remote control denonater? Nope

Do I have the skill set to know that somenones trunk is filled with fertilizer ? nope

Do I have the skill set to grasp that a toothpaste container is actually filled with the latest explosive ? nope

Do I have the skill set to know there is Toshiba radio in the cargo bin of a plane I am on ? Nope

Do I have the skill set to antipate being held hostage? Nope

All those realties must lead me to the true conclusion that we are helpless, powerless and that is our reality now.

Do I understand how we got here - sure do , again what we are doing is no different than what they are doing.

Until that reality becomes ackowledged , and moves someone to try to "end it" this is our reality as it is theirs. Peroid .

Is that gonna happen . Nope.

this notion that we wont let them impact us, is a grasp at feeling like we have some power and are not really powerless.

"Boston Strong", folks all of us "strong" folks hid in their houses for hours , allowed are right not to be searched without probable cause city wide. IMO that is an impact

Makes us geel enpowered , "we are not gonna let them impact us" We are going on with our lives cause we really dont have a choic e do we? This is not defiance or unity or strength - this is we need to grocery shop, put gas in our cars etc.

we are spending 17.4 trillion on security. Boston. The reality is a smoker, ended it. That is the reality. We did not "capture" him -- he fell out of a boat . That is what happened . He fell out.

That is like saying I caught a bear that I shot to near death, and it fell down , I did not "capture " a bear.

IMO IMO !!

 

[bluesneakers]

I loved have it your way , it was so catchy, and my faoritest voice Vivki Sue Robinson was the voice of DOulbe your pleasure double your fun !

See something say something catchy!!
[snip]

IMO IMO !!

Even if you do see something suspicious what difference does it make? Odds are it's nothing and whichever LE agency took your call ends up chasing a lead (?) that goes nowhere.

"See something say something" is this century's "Loose lips sink ships."

JMO