France - Karen Carter, 65, stabbed to death, Dordogne, 29 April 2025

[Charlot123]

Agreed but I think @Skigh was referencing the “I’m done” similarity from both women and the disparaging way in which their husbands reacted in their (alleged) comments afterwards.

Barry as we’ll all remember made the horrible comment about “drunk eyes” for instance.

Barry is a horrible person of whom the local hunters themselves were scared, as it seems. He is the slayer, the destructor with the instincts of a hound. Hunters hunt; Barry preys. He merely looks human; IRL, he is a horrifying void.

Any potential similarity may be superficial. Hard to compare BM with a marine biologist, tbh. On top of it, comparing anyone with Barry is problematic. No one yet has been named the suspect or the poi in KC’s murder. I am not yet prepared to suspect AC due to the distance. I can see why people think he might have had the reason. Personally, I still feel that it will be St Mary Mead’s problem.

 

[Dotta]

Personally, I still feel that it will be St Mary Mead’s problem.

Yep.
Not so quiant and sleepy
as some holiday adverts want ppl to believe.

JMO

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Barry is a horrible person of whom the local hunters themselves were scared, as it seems. He is the slayer, the destructor with the instincts of a hound. Hunters hunt; Barry preys. He merely looks human; IRL, he is a horrifying void.

Any potential similarity may be superficial. Hard to compare BM with a marine biologist, tbh. On top of it, comparing anyone with Barry is problematic. No one yet has been named the suspect or the poi in KC’s murder. I am not yet prepared to suspect AC due to the distance. I can see why people think he might have had the reason. Personally, I still feel that it will be St Mary Mead’s problem.

I don’t suspect the husband in Karen’s case personally.

Suzanne’s case, which I’ve been very involved with from her initial disappearance, is a different kettle of fish altogether and Barry is IMO a murdering scuzzbucket.

Just to clarify

 

[Skigh]

I don’t suspect the husband in Karen’s case personally.

Suzanne’s case, which I’ve been very involved with from her initial disappearance, is a different kettle of fish altogether and Barry is IMO a murdering scuzzbucket.

Just to clarify

Totally agree about Barry ,no doubt there. I do feel that Karen's marriage could be similar to that of Suzanne and Barry's. Lots of happy photos on social media but in reality things not being so perfect behind closed doors.

I have not discounted the husband's involvement ,though am still very open minded to other theories.

 

[indicolite22]

Karen's funeral was held in private on Thursday, May 15th in Bergerac (Dordogne).
...
"Karen's immediate family, along with her four children and husband, Alan, said their final farewells to her on Thursday at a private family funeral in Bergerac," a family member wrote to "ICI Périgord."
...
Alan had expressed his wish to scatter her ashes in South Africa with his four children. "Out of respect for the family's wishes, no further details will be shared," added a close friend of their family.

Meurtre d'une Britannique en Dordogne : la famille de Karen lui fait ses "derniers adieux" lors d'obsèques privées - ici

Les obsèques de Karen ont été célébrées dans l'intimité familiale jeudi 15 mai à Bergerac (Dordogne). Cette retraitée Britannique et Sud-Africaine a été poignardée devant chez elle à Trémolat mardi 29 avril. L'enquête se poursuit.

www.francebleu.fr

 

[indicolite22]

Also from the article above, referring to M-L: The home of this 69-year-old pensioner living in Trémolat was searched twice.

She was released after "vérifications autour de son emploi du temps". Some sources translated it as work schedule, but it's not that. The authorities were simply able to verify her alibi - how she spent her time.

 

[Dotta]

The pensioner is a victim too IMO.
Lynched by public opinion, gossip & lurid headlines.
Even her brother, who showed solidarity with his sister was/is eyed with suspicion.

So much for "idyllic" place.

JMO

 

[Corina]

SHE says, she is "done with him". HE says, he doesn't know about a new male person in his wife's life. Yes! Very known scenario, when I think of Barry M in Colorado.
Though I think, the woman, who loves JFG so much and had been arrested, is the first on my listing. Her alibi is worth checking hard, IMO.

Who is Barry?

 

[Skigh]

Who is Barry?

Barry is someone from a long running thread whom we are waiting with baited breath to be 're arrested for his wife's murder.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Who is Barry?

Barry Morphew

 

[*LD*]

Y'all really know how to hijack a thread. Can we stay focused on Karen's case?

 

[Charlot123]

Y'all really know how to hijack a thread. Can we stay focused on Karen's case?

Analogies are an indicator of an active mind. I think even Miss Maple solved cases by comparing “patterns”. I suspect most people think the same way, not only in hobbies, but professionally, too. It would be interesting to see if “real detectives” might occasionally say, “doesn’t it remind you the case we had in 2010?”, or such. Here, I personally saw no similarity between the two situations. but I can understand why some people draw the parallels between the two.

 

[Charlot123]

The pensioner is a victim too IMO.
Lynched by public opinion, gossip & lurid headlines.
Even her brother, who showed solidarity with his sister was/is eyed with suspicion.

So much for "idyllic" place.

JMO

Here is whom I view the victims in the story.

- Karen’s family, her kids and husband. Notwithstanding the complexity of the situation, they are orphaned.

- Karen’s extended family

- J-FG. That this man, retired, widowed, tried to contribute so actively into the communal life is commendable. From the photos, he looks devastated. And really, this tragedy is no fault of his, but no doubt he blames himself, the poor man.

About MLA. Let us see what pans out; if innocent, she didn’t witness the horrific scene, so KC’s dog is probably more traumatized than ML.

Which brings up a point. The dog is the witness. I can’t shed the feeling that she should somehow react to the killer. The fact that MLA disappeared so rapidly is raising many questions. Anyhow, I hope that the police finds the way to check the dog’s reaction to the people around her.

 

[FromGermany1]

Which brings up a point. The dog is the witness. I can’t shed the feeling that she should somehow react to the killer. The fact that MLA disappeared so rapidly is raising many questions. Anyhow, I hope that the police finds the way to check the dog’s reaction to the people around her.

bbm
^^ This!

 

[FromGermany1]

Y'all really know how to hijack a thread. Can we stay focused on Karen's case?

Had the "I'm done" not be done by KC, I would never have compared her case with the other, I think. Single words or same expressions are for me like a lightning strike sometimes and I give them meaning in one way or the other, although maybe I shouldn't.

 

[indicolite22]

At the time of the murder, an important football match was on TV:

Arsenal host Paris in their UEFA Champions League semi-final first leg on Tuesday 29 April at 21:00 CET.

Perhaps fewer locals were out an about that evening compared to a normal day and maybe the killer took that into account.

 

[Charlot123]

Had the "I'm done" not be done by KC, I would never have compared her case with the other, I think. Single words or same expressions are for me like a lightning strike sometimes and I give them meaning in one way or the other, although maybe I shouldn't.

And perhaps the cases resembling one another might indicate something. For example, Liz Barraza’s case should remind Dan Markel’s one, but I always remember Missy Bevers. Intuitive analogies should not be discounted.

 

[Dotta]

Which brings up a point. The dog is the witness. I can’t shed the feeling that she should somehow react to the killer. The fact that MLA disappeared so rapidly is raising many questions. Anyhow, I hope that the police finds the way to check the dog’s reaction to the people around her.

I guess
being detained for 48 hrs means
that the pensioner was THOROUGHLY
checked by Police,
including the dog's reaction to her.

Expression "Disappearing rapidly"
(quoting OP)
seems to allege doubts still
despite LE clearing her.

Not everybody is strong enough mentally to stay in hostile environment.
We are talking about a 70 year old woman described by some as "vulnerable".

This crime seems to me committed by a physically strong perp with wits about themselves,
and not this particular elderly person
who
has ALIBI confirmed by Police.

JMO

 

[miss marble]

I see some posters not ruling out ML despite her alibi.
I'm still not sold on the idea ML being responsible even though she has motive.
Her age and slight build (no mention of her being in anyway sporty) just doesn't fit with the facts of such a ferocious attack with deep stab marks on the victim (KC looked physically strong and did sports).
Also, ML would surely have had to drive to the crime scene and back, so the car would have blood stains, or residue of them after a clean up.
Considering the police reportedly searched ML's property after her arrest I'm sure they would have searched her car.
Indeed the potential use of a vehicle still puzzles me as in such a small village where everyone knows everyone then you also recognise peoples cars/number plates so it's a big risk parking nearby and being seen.

This is why I initially suspected a close by neighbour who would be able to come and go more inconspicuously than someone driving.

 

[FromGermany1]

Karen had several defensive injuries, afaik. Perhaps she had more of these injuries than a victim would have had, if the attacker had been a man.