France - Karen Carter, 65, stabbed to death, Tremolat, Dordogne, 29 April 2025

[FromGermany1]

I'm not sure if the husband was aware of JFG's presence in SA less than a month before the murder. The husband likely didn't attend Karen's football matches. According to Google maps, his home and the tournament venue (Tzaneen) are 850 miles apart. I don't remember if she even visited the family home while in SA, but she reportedly consulted lawyers about property division during that time. Divorce papers were probably served at some time after her return.
Karen's affair with JFG was new-ish and she was discrete, though the neighbors (and perhaps the village) were aware of it. If the husband had an informant, he knew.

If his female cousin in Tremolat informed AC about Karen's sudden death/murder, although her source was a Fb-post only, then she certainly had informed him at an earlier time of rumors about Karen's love life. That's what I assume. MOO

I think, Karen met her husband during her football tour to SA in their marital home.
AI is saying it also:

• Significance: The tour took place from March 30 to April 4, 2025. Following the tournament, Karen stayed in South Africa to spend time with her family, including her husband, Alan, at their home in East London.

 

[Kemug]

I've got a bit behind with this one, and there are several things I didn't know or notice (or just plain forgot !) First, Karen had only been back from South Africa for just over 3 weeks - 3 weeks! - when she was killed! That's barely time to unpack, for some of us. To me that timing makes it seem less likely that it was a past guest that killed her. Secondly, she was probably very discreet about her affair because it might have had an effect on her divorce settlement, though I know absolutely nothing about South African divorces. Thirdly, I hadn't heard or noticed previously that her lover was/may have been in South Africa with the ladies' football team. And fourthly, I was unaware that after she returned to France she was "different".
So maybe her husband had found out for sure that she was having an affair, either from his own observations in SA, or from an informant (his cousin in Tremolat?) And had threatened her? It does sound like she was scared. So now I am leaning towards the husband killing her, or someone on his behalf (in spite of him looking so pleasant.) Looking back, why would she completely deny to her husband that she was having an affair, unless she knew how much it would enrage him.

 

[Dotta]

There is NO proof/evidence the husband had anything to do with the murder.

He is NOT charged of anything,
he is NOT a POI.

The DNA left at the crime scene is NOT his.

Is there ANY trace connecting him with the crime?

Except allegations that is.

Is there some damning correspondence between him and alleged hitman??
Any electronic traces?
Did he buy a plane ticket for this alleged individual??
Any money transactions with unsavoury characters?
Did he contact some criminal individuals in France?

NOTHING has been reported as far as I know.

NOPE.

It is so easy to slander others unfortunately.
One 70 year old pensioner had to leave her home because of nasty rumours.

Proof!!!
Proof s'il vous plaît!!!

JMO

 

[Charlot123]

The very fact
that Karen didn't seem herself
(pale, lack of usual makeup, as observed by her friends) during the wine tasting event,
might indicate
she was aware of danger of some kind,
was preoccupied and worried IMO.

So,
it might mean she either knew
- her attacker,
- or that somebody was furious about something concerning her.

She might have been threatened by someone.
She might have been blackmailed.

But for what reason??

(Sure,
her looking out of sorts might have been a coincidence.
The start of an illness, sign of overworking, etc.)

It is also worrying that Police seem to have no trace of the car that was allegedly parked at the edge of the forest.
It might indicate a cold case.
(If the car was used by the perp, that is.)

The only hope is DNA left.
(If it is of the perp, that is - again.)

JMO

It was not simply a split. The Cs shared four children between them (the oldest was from Karen's first marriage). Now all the kids were grown and lived far away, but it was a huge family, not just spouses.

So MOO: what could have happened during the trip to SA was a serious conversation about the divorce, and it is likely that AC or both KC and AC informed the children.

That means, phone conversations with the kids, discussions, perhaps crying. Lots of emotions.

I can imagine it being hard on Karen.

So not looking herself, being pale, not wearing makeup could indicate the obvious stress: the need to discuss it all in details with her children. And her parents and siblings, too.

Even if a relative says, "you have my full support", it is often followed by tears.

One positive, but emotional conversation, and she would not look herself at the wine-tasting.

 

[Mayb]

I can't shed the feeling of some "compartmentalization" of the situation back in SA.

MOO
AC's behaviour following the murder was erratic. They were living apart for years, KC wanted a divorce and he - reportedly - didn't know things were not working. He acted all innocent, bewildered, "feels betrayed by her new relationship." Reportedly KC had brushed away the relationship subject when he asked. If that's true it might suggest she was uneasy.

At the same time - and to be fair; assuming AC wasn't involved with the tragedy I don't know how a person's deep shock and grief over a murdered family member would affect that person's behaviour. I know nothing about the effects of shock.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

There is NO proof/evidence the husband had anything to do with the murder.

He is NOT charged of anything,
he is NOT a POI.

The DNA left at the crime scene is NOT his.

Is there ANY trace connecting him with the crime?

Except allegations that is.

Is there some damning correspondence between him and alleged hitman??
Any electronic traces?
Did he buy a plane ticket for this alleged individual??
Any money transactions with unsavoury characters?
Did he contact some criminal individuals in France?

NOTHING has been reported as far as I know.

NOPE.

It is so easy to slander others unfortunately.
One 70 year old pensioner had to leave her home because of nasty rumours.

Proof!!!
Proof s'il vous plaît!!!

JMO

Some people said the same about Barry Morphew once (still do, in fact).

I’m not accusing anyone.

In general terms however in response to some of your points..

I’m a believer of the concept that the most dangerous time for some women is when they are looking to exit their marriage.

Big financial losses and lack of control seem to be common motivators in too many murders not to see it.

A person does not have to be present on scene to be responsible for a murder. In fact the smart money would be on avoiding that at all costs.

We don’t know anything about anyone’s private monetary transactions.

I don’t know if France’s LE officially names “POI” or not, but I don’t expect them to share details of unsolved investigations.

I’m also not a huge believer in coincidences.

Or random blitz attackers happening to be on someone’s drive just as they arrive home.

Time will tell.

 

[Skigh]

Some people said the same about Barry Morphew once (still do, in fact).

I’m not accusing anyone.

In general terms however in response to some of your points..

I’m a believer of the concept that the most dangerous time for some women is when they are looking to exit their marriage.

Big financial losses and lack of control seem to be common motivators in too many murders not to see it.

A person does not have to be present on scene to be responsible for a murder. In fact the smart money would be on avoiding that at all costs.

We don’t know anything about anyone’s private monetary transactions.

I don’t know if France’s LE officially names “POI” or not, but I don’t expect them to share details of unsolved investigations.

I’m also not a huge believer in coincidences.

Or random blitz attackers happening to be on someone’s drive just as they arrive home.

Time will tell.

I totally
Agree with you.

 

[FromGermany1]

There is NO proof/evidence the husband had anything to do with the murder.

He is NOT charged of anything,
he is NOT a POI.

The DNA left at the crime scene is NOT his.

Is there ANY trace connecting him with the crime?

Except allegations that is.

Is there some damning correspondence between him and alleged hitman??
Any electronic traces?
Did he buy a plane ticket for this alleged individual??
Any money transactions with unsavoury characters?
Did he contact some criminal individuals in France?

NOTHING has been reported as far as I know.

NOPE.

It is so easy to slander others unfortunately.
One 70 year old pensioner had to leave her home because of nasty rumours.

Proof!!!
Proof s'il vous plaît!!!

JMO

LE wasn't able to have insight into bank accounts in SA. What is presumably being concealed there? Any account balances or transactions may be suspicious. Except that the husband is outraged and offended at being so-to-say a suspect and implicated somehow in his wife's murder. MOO

 

[Dotta]

LE wasn't able to have insight into bank accounts in SA. What is presumably being concealed there? Any account balances or transactions may be suspicious. Except that the husband is outraged and offended at being so-to-say a suspect and implicated somehow in his wife's murder. MOO

The guy is free.
Neither charged nor arrested.

 

[FromGermany1]

The guy is free.
Neither charged nor arrested.

He has an alibi, IMO.

 

[Dotta]

He has an alibi, IMO.

Of course.
He was on another CONTINENT.

 

[FromGermany1]

Of course.
He was on another CONTINENT.

The one, who didn't have a truthful alibi, still needs to be found.
I think, we agree.

 

[Dotta]

The one, who didn't have a truthful alibi, still needs to be found.
I think, we agree.

Murderer must be found I agree.
Whoever this person is.

And those who have suspicions towards certain person/people
can always contact French Police
Or French Crime Stoppers
(or whatever it is called in France).
That they might have solved the crime which Police didn't.

JMO

 

[slowpoke]

Regarding Karen not wearing makeup that evening of the wine tasting and her murder, April 29, 2025 was a Tuesday. The Les Reines du Foot team held training every Thursday morning and Tuesday evening:

“Deux fois par semaine, le jeudi matin et le mardi soir, elles se retrouvent pour un entraînement d’une heure. « Qu’il y ait de la pluie, du vent, de la boue, on est là ! »”

(Acc to Google Translate: Twice a week—on Thursday mornings and Tuesday evenings—they meet up for a one-hour training session. "Whether there’s rain, wind, or mud, we’re there!") LINK

I know I have suggested this before, but maybe Karen went to her training before going to the wine tasting event, and was short on time to do her full makeup. No makeup can sometimes make someone look more wan, plus she could have been understandably tired from the sports practice. JMO

The Cafe Village schedule listed “entrainement foot” at 1900 hrs (7 pm). Not sure why it’s listed there, as the same article I linked above says the training session was at Calès (which isn’t that far from Tremolat; maybe 5 km (3 miles)?)

“Sur la pelouse grasse du terrain de Calès, situé entre Bergerac et Sarlat, en Dordogne, un entraînement de football comme n’importe quel autre a commencé, ce mardi d’automne.”

(Acc to Google Translate: On the lush turf of the Calès pitch—located between Bergerac and Sarlat, in the Dordogne—a football training session just like any other began this autumn Tuesday.)

 

[Dotta]

Regarding Karen not wearing makeup that evening of the wine tasting and her murder, April 29, 2025 was a Tuesday. The Les Reines du Foot team held training every Thursday morning and Tuesday evening:

“Deux fois par semaine, le jeudi matin et le mardi soir, elles se retrouvent pour un entraînement d’une heure. « Qu’il y ait de la pluie, du vent, de la boue, on est là ! »”

(Acc to Google Translate: Twice a week—on Thursday mornings and Tuesday evenings—they meet up for a one-hour training session. "Whether there’s rain, wind, or mud, we’re there!") LINK

I know I have suggested this before, but maybe Karen went to her training before going to the wine tasting event, and was short on time to do her full makeup. No makeup can sometimes make someone look more wan, plus she could have been understandably tired from the sports practice. JMO

The Cafe Village schedule listed “entrainement foot” at 1900 hrs (7 pm). Not sure why it’s listed there, as the same article I linked above says the training session was at Calès (which isn’t that far from Tremolat; maybe 5 km (3 miles)?)

“Sur la pelouse grasse du terrain de Calès, situé entre Bergerac et Sarlat, en Dordogne, un entraînement de football comme n’importe quel autre a commencé, ce mardi d’automne.”

(Acc to Google Translate: On the lush turf of the Calès pitch—located between Bergerac and Sarlat, in the Dordogne—a football training session just like any other began this autumn Tuesday.)

Considering that the "wine tasting" event
was a gathering of this village's "elite" IMO
(mayor, etc)
I'm doubtful a woman who always used to care about her appearance
(as friends reported)
suddenly came to such venue sweaty and without make up immediately after training.

Her appearance and lack of usual make up
seems IMO to indicate something more serious, much more serious.
Or sinister?

JMO

 

[Charlot123]

MOO
AC's behaviour following the murder was erratic. They were living apart for years, KC wanted a divorce and he - reportedly - didn't know things were not working. He acted all innocent, bewildered, "feels betrayed by her new relationship." Reportedly KC had brushed away the relationship subject when he asked. If that's true it might suggest she was uneasy.

At the same time - and to be fair; assuming AC wasn't involved with the tragedy I don't know how a person's deep shock and grief over a murdered family member would affect that person's behaviour. I know nothing about the effects of shock.

Well, if AC is innocent, he is in a difficult situation. Whatever the relationship was, it was between two people. Now the whole world knows, via the Daily Mail, that he was cuckolded, sorry. And they have four children. I think he tries to minimize the damage to the children, nothing more. They lost their mother. I see nothing but protection in his behavior.

It is not difficult to guess who was the closest child to him, but he does look like a good father in general.

That, too, might be somewhat of a "defence factor" in my eyes. If he cared about the family in general, what loving father could do it to his children?

 

[Skigh]

Well, if AC is innocent, he is in a difficult situation. Whatever the relationship was, it was between two people. Now the whole world knows, via the Daily Mail, that he was cuckolded, sorry. And they have four children. I think he tries to minimize the damage to the children, nothing more. They lost their mother. I see nothing but protection in his behavior.

It is not difficult to guess who was the closest child to him, but he does look like a good father in general.

That, too, might be somewhat of a "defence factor" in my eyes. If he cared about the family in general, what loving father could do it to his children?

Barry Morphew did not care about his daughters.
He killed his wife when she was about to leave him.
Plenty of other cases on here where so called loving husbands have killed their children's mother.

 

[Dotta]

Well, if AC is innocent, he is in a difficult situation. Whatever the relationship was, it was between two people. Now the whole world knows, via the Daily Mail, that he was cuckolded, sorry. And they have four children. I think he tries to minimize the damage to the children, nothing more. They lost their mother. I see nothing but protection in his behavior.

It is not difficult to guess who was the closest child to him, but he does look like a good father in general.

That, too, might be somewhat of a "defence factor" in my eyes. If he cared about the family in general, what loving father could do it to his children?

Of course.
Not everyone is willing to merrily wash dirty linen in public via tabloids
(not only DM I might add )

Besides,
I bet
all Info for whatever Media was CAREFULLY prepared with a lawyer.
C'mon!
It is obvious to me.

JMO

 

[Charlot123]

Considering that the "wine tasting" event
was a gathering of this village's "elite" IMO
(mayor, etc)
I'm doubtful a woman who always used to care about her appearance
(as friends reported)
suddenly came to such venue sweaty and without make up immediately after training.

Her appearance and lack of usual make up
seems IMO to indicate something more serious, much more serious.
Or sinister?

JMO

Well, remembering my young years.

I tried to look the best when I was yet unmarried (to be the most attractive). My cooking was the best, too.

So I assume that Karen not wearing makeup and "letting herself down" might indicate that she was certain about her new relationship, you know? That the relationship with the new guy, JFG, was "stable" and he was not going anywhere.

This is my explanation for today.

 

[Dotta]

Well, remembering my young years.

I tried to look the best when I was yet unmarried (to be the most attractive). My cooking was the best, too.

So I assume that Karen not wearing makeup and "letting herself down" might indicate that she was certain about her new relationship, you know? That the relationship with the new guy, JFG, was "stable" and he was not going anywhere.

This is my explanation for today.

Let's be honest,
the fancy dresses and careful make up do not seem to be for guys
(who couldn't care less)
but for other society women who eye each other, especially at venues hehehe

Karen was not herself there.
She seemed to be anxious, in deep trouble.

Who knows what was bothering her?

At the very night she was murdered.

JMO