France - Karen Carter, 65, stabbed to death, Tremolat, Dordogne, 29 April 2025

[slowpoke]

Only tangentially related, perhaps, but…

Last night, I watched a docudrama on PBS called Mr. Bates vs The Post Office, not knowing what it was about, but it starred actor Toby Jones, who I have enjoyed prior.

It is about the “Post Office Horizon scandal”in the UK (1999-2015), which I’d not heard of. To my surprise, the company Fujitsu was mentioned several times, as the supplier of the Horizon system.

Many subpostmasters’ lives were destroyed; it was a very sad and infuriating situation.

I wondered, as a managing director with Fujitsu, if during his time with the company, Jean Francois Guerrier had to deal with this.

Mr Bates vs The Post Office

Toby Jones (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Sherlock) stars in this true story following one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in British legal history.

www.pbs.org

Post Office Horizon scandal explained: Everything you need to know | Computer Weekly

Computer Weekly has investigated the Post Office Horizon scandal since 2008 and is, in fact, part of the story. This guide covers essential information about the scandal.

www.computerweekly.com

 

[FromGermany1]

Only tangentially related, perhaps, but…

Last night, I watched a docudrama on PBS called Mr. Bates vs The Post Office, not knowing what it was about, but it starred actor Toby Jones, who I have enjoyed prior.

It is about the “Post Office Horizon scandal”in the UK (1999-2015), which I’d not heard of. To my surprise, the company Fujitsu was mentioned several times, as the supplier of the Horizon system.

Many subpostmasters’ lives were destroyed; it was a very sad and infuriating situation.

I wondered, as a managing director with Fujitsu, if during his time with the company, Jean Francois Guerrier had to deal with this.

Mr Bates vs The Post Office

Toby Jones (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Sherlock) stars in this true story following one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in British legal history.

www.pbs.org

Post Office Horizon scandal explained: Everything you need to know | Computer Weekly

Computer Weekly has investigated the Post Office Horizon scandal since 2008 and is, in fact, part of the story. This guide covers essential information about the scandal.

www.computerweekly.com

Terrible! And very interesting.

In November 2021, it opened a criminal investigation into Fujitsu staff who gave evidence in trials of subpostmasters. These were tech workers Gareth Jenkins and Anne Chambers.

 

[Rikissa]

There are several articles about Karen Carter in French media, but those I've seen have been for abonnents, although often there is a bit that can be read before they become locked (usually more than I've seen in other paywalled articles). I found this article in 'Sud Ouest', a newspaper covering Dordogne where she lived. There is a video showing the village where she lived, as well as some photos of Karen. I was able to watch the video, but I don't know if it's available in the US, I'll post the link, without translating the article.

Vidéo. En Dordogne, l’enquête se poursuit autour du meurtre d’une expatriée de 65 ans et Reine du foot

Karen Carter, originaire d’Afrique du Sud, s’était installée à Trémolat, où elle était parfaitement intégrée. Elle a été tuée de huit coups de couteau le 29 avril 2025. L’auteur est toujours recherché. Le point sur l’enquête

www.sudouest.fr

 

[Skigh]

Detectives probing brutal murder of Brit expat interview football team

Karen Carter, 65, was murdered in the Dordogne village of Trémolat, east of Bordeaux, in April last year.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Ssschu]

Detectives probing brutal murder of Brit expat interview football team

Karen Carter, 65, was murdered in the Dordogne village of Trémolat, east of Bordeaux, in April last year.

www.dailymail.co.uk

A former friend of Ms Carter told the latest edition of France's Sud Ouest (South West) newspaper: 'For her [Ms Carter], it had been over with her husband for a long time.

'But he didn't want to hear it. Karen had sent the divorce papers just before her death. She told me on Monday. On Tuesday, she was killed.'

 

[ZaZara]

A former friend of Ms Carter told the latest edition of France's Sud Ouest (South West) newspaper: 'For her [Ms Carter], it had been over with her husband for a long time.

'But he didn't want to hear it. Karen had sent the divorce papers just before her death. She told me on Monday. On Tuesday, she was killed.'

Yep, that was neighbour Ms Blabbermouth who literally told everything, all while stressing that KC was so very discrete.
IMO KC picked the wrong friends.

 

[Ssschu]

Yep, that was neighbour Ms Blabbermouth who literally told everything, all while stressing that KC was so very discrete.
IMO KC picked the wrong friends.

I did not remember she filed the day before she was murdered. I was under tbe impression the divorce had been going on for a while but I'm trying to keep up with too many cases right now.

 

[indicolite22]

I did not remember she filed the day before she was murdered. I was under tbe impression the divorce had been going on for a while but I'm trying to keep up with too many cases right now.

I got the impression that the friend was told about KC's divorce filing one day before KC was killed. When KC was in SA with her football team, she met with lawyers about property division. It's unclear if she spent any time with the husband.

 

[Dotta]

Honestly folks,
suspecting somebody from SAfrica seems like clutching at straws to me.
But sure,
every theory must be checked.

I'm afraid this will become a cold case.

The only hope is DNA left.
But is it of the perp???

JMO

 

[Charlot123]

Honestly folks,
suspecting somebody from SAfrica seems like clutching at straws to me.
But sure,
every theory must be checked.

I'm afraid this will become a cold case.

The only hope is DNA left.
But is it of the perp???

JMO

JMO, while “South African trace” needs to be checked, some closer connections are of interest. Guests at Karen’s Airbnb, for example.

MOO: Karen was truly discrete, even in her relationship with Mr. JFG. And Mr. G was, by all means, a man of certain “standing” within the village. A short prior fling with someone “outside of Karen’s circle” could be totally unnoticed by the locals. And yet it is not I’mpossible, as Karen lived in Tremolat for many years. I am thinking of a man who could get very jealous of JFG. On the day before murder, Karen opened her own bank account with the help of Mr. JFG. Someone might have gotten enraged with this.

Also, didn’t Karen want to purchase an apartment in another part of the village? It would be interesting to find out where precisely the intended place was, geographically. If I remember correctly, G lived to the west of the village and Karen, to the east of it. If she planned to move more west, could it indicate that the jealous person lived somewhere in the eastern part of Tremolat? He could also be coming from another village next to Karen’s gite, and moving away would make her feel more protected.

Might her move serve to avoid someone else, considering her new relationship with JFG?

 

[Kemug]

This case has too many people and too many countries. I'm beginning to think it will never be solved.

 

[Dotta]

JMO, while “South African trace” needs to be checked, some closer connections are of interest. Guests at Karen’s Airbnb, for example.

MOO: Karen was truly discrete, even in her relationship with Mr. JFG. And Mr. G was, by all means, a man of certain “standing” within the village. A short prior fling with someone “outside of Karen’s circle” could be totally unnoticed by the locals. And yet it is not I’mpossible, as Karen lived in Tremolat for many years. I am thinking of a man who could get very jealous of JFG. On the day before murder, Karen opened her own bank account with the help of Mr. JFG. Someone might have gotten enraged with this.

Also, didn’t Karen want to purchase an apartment in another part of the village? It would be interesting to find out where precisely the intended place was, geographically. If I remember correctly, G lived to the west of the village and Karen, to the east of it. If she planned to move more west, could it indicate that the jealous person lived somewhere in the eastern part of Tremolat? He could also be coming from another village next to Karen’s gite, and moving away would make her feel more protected.

Might her move serve to avoid someone else, considering her new relationship with JFG?

It sounds plausible.
For me it seems a local crime.

JMO

 

[indicolite22]

JMO, while “South African trace” needs to be checked, some closer connections are of interest. Guests at Karen’s Airbnb, for example.

MOO: Karen was truly discrete, even in her relationship with Mr. JFG. And Mr. G was, by all means, a man of certain “standing” within the village. A short prior fling with someone “outside of Karen’s circle” could be totally unnoticed by the locals. And yet it is not I’mpossible, as Karen lived in Tremolat for many years. I am thinking of a man who could get very jealous of JFG. On the day before murder, Karen opened her own bank account with the help of Mr. JFG. Someone might have gotten enraged with this.

Also, didn’t Karen want to purchase an apartment in another part of the village? It would be interesting to find out where precisely the intended place was, geographically. If I remember correctly, G lived to the west of the village and Karen, to the east of it. If she planned to move more west, could it indicate that the jealous person lived somewhere in the eastern part of Tremolat? He could also be coming from another village next to Karen’s gite, and moving away would make her feel more protected.

Might her move serve to avoid someone else, considering her new relationship with JFG?

Karen thought she was discrete. Her neighbor mentioned that he saw J-FG visit her at night before. He mentioned that it was only him and not other men. The entire village probably knew about the affair.
According to Karen's friend, she wanted to buy a small cottage for herself in Tremolat as part of her independence. Her husband claimed that it was for both of them, which would not be true if they were divorcing.

 

[Mayb]

This case has too many people and too many countries. I'm beginning to think it will never be solved.

JMO, while “South African trace” needs to be checked, some closer connections are of interest. Guests at Karen’s Airbnb, for example.

MOO: Karen was truly discrete, even in her relationship with Mr. JFG. And Mr. G was, by all means, a man of certain “standing” within the village. A short prior fling with someone “outside of Karen’s circle” could be totally unnoticed by the locals. And yet it is not I’mpossible, as Karen lived in Tremolat for many years. I am thinking of a man who could get very jealous of JFG. On the day before murder, Karen opened her own bank account with the help of Mr. JFG. Someone might have gotten enraged with this.

Also, didn’t Karen want to purchase an apartment in another part of the village? It would be interesting to find out where precisely the intended place was, geographically. If I remember correctly, G lived to the west of the village and Karen, to the east of it. If she planned to move more west, could it indicate that the jealous person lived somewhere in the eastern part of Tremolat? He could also be coming from another village next to Karen’s gite, and moving away would make her feel more protected.

Might her move serve to avoid someone else, considering her new relationship with JFG?

JMO, while “South African trace” needs to be checked, some closer connections are of interest. Guests at Karen’s Airbnb, for example.

MOO: Karen was truly discrete, even in her relationship with Mr. JFG. And Mr. G was, by all means, a man of certain “standing” within the village. A short prior fling with someone “outside of Karen’s circle” could be totally unnoticed by the locals. And yet it is not I’mpossible, as Karen lived in Tremolat for many years. I am thinking of a man who could get very jealous of JFG. On the day before murder, Karen opened her own bank account with the help of Mr. JFG. Someone might have gotten enraged with this.

Also, didn’t Karen want to purchase an apartment in another part of the village? It would be interesting to find out where precisely the intended place was, geographically. If I remember correctly, G lived to the west of the village and Karen, to the east of it. If she planned to move more west, could it indicate that the jealous person lived somewhere in the eastern part of Tremolat? He could also be coming from another village next to Karen’s gite, and moving away would make her feel more protected.

Might her move serve to avoid someone else, considering her new relationship with JFG?

JMO, while “South African trace” needs to be checked, some closer connections are of interest. Guests at Karen’s Airbnb, for example.

MOO: Karen was truly discrete, even in her relationship with Mr. JFG. And Mr. G was, by all means, a man of certain “standing” within the village. A short prior fling with someone “outside of Karen’s circle” could be totally unnoticed by the locals. And yet it is not I’mpossible, as Karen lived in Tremolat for many years. I am thinking of a man who could get very jealous of JFG. On the day before murder, Karen opened her own bank account with the help of Mr. JFG. Someone might have gotten enraged with this.

Also, didn’t Karen want to purchase an apartment in another part of the village? It would be interesting to find out where precisely the intended place was, geographically. If I remember correctly, G lived to the west of the village and Karen, to the east of it. If she planned to move more west, could it indicate that the jealous person lived somewhere in the eastern part of Tremolat? He could also be coming from another village next to Karen’s gite, and moving away would make her feel more protected.

Might her move serve to avoid someone else, considering her new relationship with JFG?

While jealousy can be a terrible and destructive emotion the idea of another afflicted - jealous- person in this mess is going down a rabbit hole isn't it? MOO ( MLA's infatuation with JPG was discussed here at length )

 

[FromGermany1]

JMO, while “South African trace” needs to be checked, some closer connections are of interest. Guests at Karen’s Airbnb, for example.

MOO: Karen was truly discrete, even in her relationship with Mr. JFG. And Mr. G was, by all means, a man of certain “standing” within the village. A short prior fling with someone “outside of Karen’s circle” could be totally unnoticed by the locals. And yet it is not I’mpossible, as Karen lived in Tremolat for many years. I am thinking of a man who could get very jealous of JFG. On the day before murder, Karen opened her own bank account with the help of Mr. JFG. Someone might have gotten enraged with this.

Also, didn’t Karen want to purchase an apartment in another part of the village? It would be interesting to find out where precisely the intended place was, geographically. If I remember correctly, G lived to the west of the village and Karen, to the east of it. If she planned to move more west, could it indicate that the jealous person lived somewhere in the eastern part of Tremolat? He could also be coming from another village next to Karen’s gite, and moving away would make her feel more protected.

Might her move serve to avoid someone else, considering her new relationship with JFG?

bbm
I don't quite understand, why Karen opened a new own bank account, although she just had filed for divorce. If the opening of an account is still difficult for an expat with two nationalities, wouldn't it be more difficult to be in a divorce, have it finished someday in the future and perhaps have even changed the surname?

Did the bank perhaps (to demonstrate their power) secretly also contact her husband in South Africa, even though it wasn't necessary?

 

[Kemug]

Perhaps she wanted an account of her own for her soon-to-be-ex-husband to put money into.

 

[FromGermany1]

While jealousy can be a terrible and destructive emotion the idea of another afflicted - jealous- person in this mess is going down a rabbit hole isn't it? MOO ( MLA's infatuation with JPG was discussed here at length )

Except MLA and AC I can't imagine anyone to get revenge on Karen or to get rid of her (and her claim to half a fortune) via a brutal murder. MOO