Fred Meyers Store - June 4, 2010

[ami]

If there was a hand off... why would she need such a complicated alibi? Just hand off and continue normal day. A hand off would most resemble a stranger abduction.
Unless, she (God forbid) did something to Kyron and she expected him to be found quickly. In that scenario, she would need an alibi..

Yeah, I know, the hand-off in that case wouldn't have been the end of it - like hand off and run away and that's it. It would have to be hand-off, get some time stamped receipts, come back and do... something else.

 

[loves2bmom]

Not sure if anyone is still interested in the parking lot at FM? But I happened to be over there today and snapped just a few quick pictures. I believe Dorothy already mentioned she didn't see any video cameras on the outside of the building. I didn't see any either but wondered if they might be up above the entrance. (see photo #1 in the album) It was hard to see at the angle from below. Plus, the white mesh thing makes it hard to determine what's up there. Probably not cameras but I snapped a picture anyway. I also took a picture of the distance standing on the stone wall she "allegedly' parked and another one showing how few cars park along that wall. My visit was at 1:00pm during a semi busy time of day for them. I would bet those parked on the wall were employee cars. JMO

Walker Road location:

http://loves2bmom.smugmug.com/Other/FM/13313384_uQupo#967708557_K5fyC

 

[pghbrandi]

Not sure if anyone is still interested in the parking lot at FM? But I happened to be over there today and snapped just a few quick pictures. I believe Dorothy already mentioned she didn't see any video cameras on the outside of the building. I didn't see any either but wondered if they might be up above the entrance. (see photo #1 in the album) It was hard to see at the angle from below. Plus, the white mesh thing makes it hard to determine what's up there. Probably not cameras but I snapped a picture anyway. I also took a picture of the distance standing on the stone wall she "allegedly' parked and another one showing how few cars park along that wall. My visit was at 1:00pm during a semi busy time of day for them. I would bet those parked on the wall were employee cars. JMO

Walker Road location:

http://loves2bmom.smugmug.com/Other/FM/13313384_uQupo#967708557_K5fyC

Thanks for the pictures! Being that I am not local, the pictures you locals take really help out. Maybe they have cameras in the lights that are hanging down.

 

[dorothyz]

These are great, thank you! I wondered about that mesh-covered area too. Cameras can be pretty small these days so they could definitely be in there. Did you happen to see the camera on the corner of the building above the muffin place? I think it *could* cover the area where they think she parked, but it's awfully far away.

 

[21merc7]

Not sure if anyone is still interested in the parking lot at FM? But I happened to be over there today and snapped just a few quick pictures. I believe Dorothy already mentioned she didn't see any video cameras on the outside of the building. I didn't see any either but wondered if they might be up above the entrance. (see photo #1 in the album) It was hard to see at the angle from below. Plus, the white mesh thing makes it hard to determine what's up there. Probably not cameras but I snapped a picture anyway. I also took a picture of the distance standing on the stone wall she "allegedly' parked and another one showing how few cars park along that wall. My visit was at 1:00pm during a semi busy time of day for them. I would bet those parked on the wall were employee cars. JMO

Walker Road location:

http://loves2bmom.smugmug.com/Other/FM/13313384_uQupo#967708557_K5fyC

Could be cameras in the vents, under the edging, just about anywhere. Cameras can be very small or disguised to look like lights, vents, fire detectors, screws, you name it. They could also have cameras somewhere higher up that you could not see.

 

[loves2bmom]

These are great, thank you! I wondered about that mesh-covered area too. Cameras can be pretty small these days so they could definitely be in there. Did you happen to see the camera on the corner of the building above the muffin place? I think it *could* cover the area where they think she parked, but it's awfully far away.

I did see something above the muffin place but thought it was a light. I guess I flunk detective work? LOL! Plus I was trying not to freak my daughter out. Hard to explain why I was taking photos and acting suspicious. A couple of people watched me take pictures and gave me a quizzical look.

 

[freefallzzzz]

I did see something above the muffin place but thought it was a light. I guess I flunk detective work? LOL! Plus I was trying not to freak my daughter out. Hard to explain why I was taking photos and acting suspicious. A couple of people watched me take pictures and gave me a quizzical look.

I think it's awesome you took pictures! People look at me odd all the time, but I just ignore them =)

Glad I saw your post, I was planning on going out today, I still will, I'll get some of Imbrie FM, and maybe drive up that access road by the school and see how hard it is to turn around..

If I cruize back by the Walker Rd FM I may grab a few more shots..

I saw earlier in the thread, there are a lot of us in this area..=)

PS I would have never thought to get a shot like you did of looking up to see if there are cameras! That's what's cool, each of us has our own perspective when taking pictures and I think when we put it all together everyone gets a pretty well rounded view of the area! =)

*not looking forward to the traffic by the Walker Rd FM, maybe won't go there =)

 

[dorothyz]

I did see something above the muffin place but thought it was a light. I guess I flunk detective work? LOL! Plus I was trying not to freak my daughter out. Hard to explain why I was taking photos and acting suspicious. A couple of people watched me take pictures and gave me a quizzical look.

LOL! I was trying to figure out a way to take a picture of the interior camera and TV screen right at the entrance without being noticed. Needless to say, I chickened out! People were looking at me funny just for walking aimlessly around the parking lot staring up at the lampposts.

The camera (I think, anyway) above the muffin place looked like one of those round ball type ones that have a more panoramic view.

 

[loves2bmom]

I think it's awesome you took pictures! People look at me odd all the time, but I just ignore them =)

Glad I saw your post, I was planning on going out today, I still will, I'll get some of Imbrie FM, and maybe drive up that access road by the school and see how hard it is to turn around..

If I cruize back by the Walker Rd FM I may grab a few more shots..

I saw earlier in the thread, there are a lot of us in this area..=)

PS I would have never thought to get a shot like you did of looking up to see if there are cameras! That's what's cool, each of us has our own perspective when taking pictures and I think when we put it all together everyone gets a pretty well rounded view of the area! =)

*not looking forward to the traffic by the Walker Rd FM, maybe won't go there =)

The more eyes the better! Like I said, we should all grab Starbucks at FM one of these days! See if you can get that camera over by My Favorite Muffin that Dorothy was talking about.

Watch out for Nike traffic!

 

[dorothyz]

The more eyes the better! Like I said, we should all grab Starbucks at FM one of these days! See if you can get that camera over by My Favorite Muffin that Dorothy was talking about.

Watch out for Nike traffic!

That would be fun! I bet we are even more dangerous if we put our heads together in person!

If I'm back there tonight I'll get a picture of the "camera" above the muffin place too.

Free, I'm dying to hear your report of the access road. You're so brave! I would probably get stuck on it and not be able to get out. :loser:

 

[TamgMit]

http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2010-08/1276/37434/081110_PressConferenceFlier.pdf​

Was wondering got to looking at these pictures and got to wondering if they are looking for two cars. The bottom left picture is the driveway up to the school. The first lot closest to the road on south side looks like there is a silver car a station wagon type car just behind the grass. In the first Fred Myer picture you don't see any white truck park there, but you do see a car that is similar to the vehicle that is parked in the first lot closest to the road in the school picture.
Second picture of Fred Myer you do see a white truck. Similar in color to that of the one in the school photo's. These pictures where set up after June 4th in order to jog someone's memory.
My question is why is this silver looking car being shown at the school and at the first Fred Myer. I also notice the top right picture seems like there is someone in the vehicle behind the steer wheel. If they are setting these pictures up to give an idea of the placement of the vehicle then why a picture with someone in behind the wheel.

 

[freefallzzzz]

uploading pictures right now.
Took pictures of the layout of the store (those little kiosk thingies they have in each store when you walk in)

I may need some help as I forgot where it said she parked at the Imbrie FM so I just took a lot..
Never could see any cameras =(

Will post a link in a bit here =)

Oh, took pics of the access road, but even though I was in a Jeep Cherokee there was NO WAY I was going to drive up that road and try to turn around! And I didn't dare try to
pull in and then back out, I am horrid at backing up, I would have ended up in the ditch down the side!!

BTW, doesn't look like the parents have collected anything at the wall of hope, same stuffed animals ect from last weekend..

 

[Emma Peel]

Not sure if anyone is still interested in the parking lot at FM? But I happened to be over there today and snapped just a few quick pictures. I believe Dorothy already mentioned she didn't see any video cameras on the outside of the building. I didn't see any either but wondered if they might be up above the entrance. (see photo #1 in the album) It was hard to see at the angle from below. Plus, the white mesh thing makes it hard to determine what's up there. Probably not cameras but I snapped a picture anyway. I also took a picture of the distance standing on the stone wall she "allegedly' parked and another one showing how few cars park along that wall. My visit was at 1:00pm during a semi busy time of day for them. I would bet those parked on the wall were employee cars. JMO

Walker Road location:

http://loves2bmom.smugmug.com/Other/FM/13313384_uQupo#967708557_K5fyC

LOL, if there was a camera at the entrance there, now FM has a nice picture of you taking a picture of their hidden camera! You're a brave one! :dance: Thanks for the pictures!

 

[FORDANIEL]

Not sure if anyone is still interested in the parking lot at FM? But I happened to be over there today and snapped just a few quick pictures. I believe Dorothy already mentioned she didn't see any video cameras on the outside of the building. I didn't see any either but wondered if they might be up above the entrance. (see photo #1 in the album) It was hard to see at the angle from below. Plus, the white mesh thing makes it hard to determine what's up there. Probably not cameras but I snapped a picture anyway. I also took a picture of the distance standing on the stone wall she "allegedly' parked and another one showing how few cars park along that wall. My visit was at 1:00pm during a semi busy time of day for them. I would bet those parked on the wall were employee cars. JMO

Walker Road location:

http://loves2bmom.smugmug.com/Other/FM/13313384_uQupo#967708557_K5fyC

What is that round white thing above the stone wall in picture 3,it looks like a large bin of sorts.

 

[loves2bmom]

What is that round white thing above the stone wall in picture 3,it looks like a large bin of sorts.

I'm not sure what that was. I do have to go back tomorrow and return the shoes I bought that don't fit my daughter. If Freefallzzz didn't get a better photo of it, I'll check it out again. Got those photos done yet Free??

 

[RubyRed]

Was wondering got to looking at these pictures and got to wondering if they are looking for two cars. The bottom left picture is the driveway up to the school. The first lot closest to the road on south side looks like there is a silver car a station wagon type car just behind the grass. .

sbbm

 

[freefallzzzz]

I got mixed up on my directions while typing in where I was facing and what entrance.
Sorry for so many but at the time I couldn't remember where they said she parked!!

Hope this helps and if you see any errors plz let me know so I can fix! =)

Now going to do the access road and I got just a few of FM Walker Rd.

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/Fred Meyer at Imbrie Drive/

 

[loves2bmom]

I got mixed up on my directions while typing in where I was facing and what entrance.
Sorry for so many but at the time I couldn't remember where they said she parked!!

Hope this helps and if you see any errors plz let me know so I can fix! =)

Now going to do the access road and I got just a few of FM Walker Rd.

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/Fred Meyer at Imbrie Drive/

These are so awesome! Thanks for taking the time to get so many different angles. I thought she probably got the Starbucks inside and not the separate store to the left...???

 

[freefallzzzz]

These are so awesome! Thanks for taking the time to get so many different angles. I thought she probably got the Starbucks inside and not the separate store to the left...???

I have no idea =)

Someone can maybe match one of LE's Imbrie pics of where she parked up to mine.. I hope..
I was so irritated when I realized I didn't pay attention to where they said she parked on that flyer!! =)

 

[Etilema]

Two considerations:
1) Did she state that baby k was with her after she left school? If so, perhaps she was seen WITHOUT baby k at the FM and Starbucks?
2) Maybe the cough medicine was for Kyron? It can certainly make a child sleepy.

Well, she certainly implied that she kept baby K with her. She didn't mention dropping her off, mentioned going to the two stores to find her medicine, followed by a ride to try to calm her.