GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former PD and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 #2

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The house seems to have been in the same halted state of construction for quite some time. Presumably because the property owner is battling some illness and possibly has been for a long while.

I suspected that the property may be viewed as a bit of an attractive nuisance by the neighbors, and the videos Arbery family attorney Merritt released would seem to support that possibility. I'm glad the individuals shown in these new videos weren't accosted (presumably).
 
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The house seems to have been in the same halted state of construction for quite some time. Presumably because the property owner is battling some illness and possibly has been for a long while.

I suspected that the property may be viewed as a bit of an attractive nuisance by the neighbors, and the videos Arbery family attorney Merritt released would seem to support that possibility. I'm glad the individuals shown in these new videos weren't accosted (presumably).

Mr. English is fortunate that none of the folks streaming into his unfinished, wide-open house over the years were injured or worse, on site, anyway. Especially children.

Sure would have better all around had Mr. English been required to secure his property himself to
keep trespassers out, rather than relying upon LE to do extra watches and enlisting excitable neighbors as personal look-outs.

That he left the site wide open for so long with so little progress being made over the years makes it even more absurd to believe AA or anyone else would view it as a ripe target to "plunder."
 
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I don't see how a sign is going to keep people from trespassing. You should know that that is someone's lot and property and you have no right being there.

Signs won't keep people out but it does put them on notice. Any issue of Mr. Arbery going onto the property is really between Mr. Arbery and the homeowner, Mr. English. Mr. English chose to not secure his property. (in my area, homes under construction are not left open. Plywood is placed over doors and locked, windows locked etc. So I am surprised that home was open and remained open for so long.) Interestingly enough, the accused killers didn't have an interest in securing the home or running off trespassers. Yet, somehow they seemed very interested in approaching/hunting/apprehending Mr. Arbery without cause. Just as Mr. Arbery should not have been on the property as it was trespassing, the killers confrontation of a man for a crime they did not witness but decided existed should not have occurred by law.
 
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Mr. English is fortunate that none of the folks streaming into his unfinished, wide-open house over the years were injured or worse, on site, anyway. Especially children.

Sure would have better all around had Mr. English been required to secure his property himself to
keep trespassers out, rather than relying upon LE to do extra watches and enlisting excitable neighbors as personal look-outs.

That he left the site wide open for so long with so little progress being made over the years makes it even more absurd to believe AA or anyone else would view it as a ripe target to "plunder."

Most insurance companies will cease to provide a policy for a home that is unsecured and unfinished, it is a liability nightmare if anyone gets hurt. Mr. English and his insurance company would be liable.
 
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He and his best friend Akeem Baker had conversations about it, but never discussed feeling as if their lives were at risk.

“We weren’t just out here in Brunswick living in fear," Baker said. "We just understood that everything wasn’t all love everywhere we went.”

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Cooper-Jones said Arbery wanted to become an electrician, following the footsteps of three of his uncles.

He attended South Georgia Technical College for about a year and a half but stopped when money got tight for the family, Cooper-Jones said. She said she was also putting her other son and daughter through school at the time.

Before his death, Arbery was planning to go back to school and get his electrician certification, she said.

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“He was just a really humble guy," she said. "Ahmaud was a good kid.”

She recalled him helping out around the house, whether moving heavy furniture or offering to fix electrical outlets.

Baker remembers Arbery was his "hype man" who would give Baker a playful nudge to freestyle rap lyrics or do high intensity workouts in the gym.

"He was just a real genuine person," said Baker, who grew up in the same apartment complex as Arbery. "He spoke and did everything from a place of love."

Ahmaud Arbery shooting: Mother, friend describe 'humble' 'hype man'
 
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I’m going to concentrate on other cases but I will today tell you that the state of Georgia will never get a conviction on any charge. Never.
 
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“The Glynn County District Attorney’s Office vacated a portion of their office space to allow Cobb’s staff to have work space for the duration of that months-long trial,” Holmes said in a written statement. “At that time, Cobb’s trial team had professional interactions with employees of the Glynn County DA’s Office, including their investigator, Gregory McMichael. Additionally, in spring 2017, a now-former investigator with our office communicated with McMichael for help locating a witness who lived in Glynn County and was needed to testify in a Cobb murder case. There has been no continuing relationship.”

Conflict Questions Extend to a Fourth DA in Ahmaud Arbery Case | Daily Report
 
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Nobody should be issuing death threats whatever she posted. No excuses for people threatening to rape and kill her and her 61 year old mother.
If she hadn’t snapped and posted a pic of his dead body with her smiling emoji next to it, no one would know who she is. She wanted attention. She got it.
Of course she’s probably lying about the threats.
 
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If she hadn’t snapped and posted a pic of his dead body with her smiling emoji next to it
No one would who she is. She wanted attention. She got it.
There is no excuse for people threatening to rape and kill anyone, especially not the 61 year old mother who didn't post anything.
 
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There is no excuse for people threatening to rape and kill anyone, especially not the 61 year old mother who didn't post anything.
So threatening to kill someone is a no no, but actually killing someone is ok? Because there seems to be a fair amount of borderline excuses and blaming the victim on this thread.
 
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She was with her mother when AA was killed, saw her brother TM "moments later," when she heard shots and ran out of the house. From a house on Holmes?

That she confesses she was right there explains who took the photo of AA bleeding out or already dead on the road. (Who DOES that?! Especially when her father and brother were responsible)? And when she only has time to ask about her father and brother, not the dead man they killed.

And then later on, she posts that photo of AA on FB, with that smiley face and with AA's mugshot from when he was 19. And she wonders why she's a target of people's anger?

She isn't close at all to her father and brother, but instantly reads the expression on TM's face as one of despair, and brings him clean clothes so he doesn't have AA's blood on him in jail. And both love all her non-white BF's like a "brother and son." And her mother is a lovely person who has "helped people die."

"Mistakes were made."

NONE of the folks who were involved in any way
with AA's killing who are speaking out now seem to have the slightest idea how their justifications and rationalizations and half-truths and scrambles to distance themselves sound. And you don't have to listen especially closely to hear what does NOT get said about AA.
 
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If she hadn’t snapped and posted a pic of his dead body with her smiling emoji next to it, no one would know who she is. She wanted attention. She got it.
Of course she’s probably lying about the threats.
Wait, What?
Is that in the article? Where's this picture with the smiley face?
 
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Seems odd that Roddy would have stopped recording at the moment if his whole "concerned neighbor" thing was real. Sure Arbery fell, but we know the McMichael's first thing (well according to GM) was they flipped him over to see if he had a weapon, so it's not like it was a done deal that Arbery was fatally wounded. The few times I've recorded things I tend to wait until it's somewhat clear the event has ended.
 
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Mr. English is fortunate that none of the folks streaming into his unfinished, wide-open house over the years were injured or worse, on site, anyway. Especially children.

Sure would have better all around had Mr. English been required to secure his property himself to
keep trespassers out, rather than relying upon LE to do extra watches and enlisting excitable neighbors as personal look-outs.

That he left the site wide open for so long with so little progress being made over the years makes it even more absurd to believe AA or anyone else would view it as a ripe target to "plunder."

I thought the same thing. From the looks of Google Maps that was an empty lot (there's a for sale sign) at least up to 2014, but maybe I missed something, because don't people generally do foundation, construct the frame, do the inside framing and then do stuff like windows and stucco? With all the people touring he could have at least put on the garage door and then had bolted on plywood that could be easily removed for workers and then put back up. In the one video you can clearly see the mitre saw but there is no interest taken in it at all. Also boxes in the room to the right, I'm assuming maybe stuff like outlet boxes, nails and things, but Arbery is looking more up and around, like he's looking at the framing and the build.
 
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Do you know anyone with firearms?
Go ask them if you can see one. And then ask them if they know or can provide you with the serial #.
I can. But I take my training, rights, and responsibilities seriously.
 
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