For Thursday, Nov. 18th - rest of Sube Lawrence on stand.
Veronica Waters
@MissVWaters
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11h
Paul Camarillo for cross. They've never talked, but he says he may've left her a voice mail. She says she's sorry--she would've called him back. Camarillo: Would you? "Yes!" Everyone laughs.
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On the English house "break-ins," Lawrence says she doesn't think there were even doors or windows on it. She says she's been on a boat ride with the Perezes, and Greg & Leigh McMichael after the #AhmaudArbery homicide.
Day of #AhmaudArbery shooting she & Brook Perez walked over to see what was going on. Lawrence says she and Leigh McMichael are colleagues at the same hospital. Don't chat, but "Friendly." As for boat, "Brook & Diego invited me & I'm not going to turn down a boat ride."
Lawrence didn't know #AhmaudArbery and never heard his name before this. About the 2 guys with flashlights: They were police officers. She never saw trespassers on her camera? Correct. Just people looking for somebody.
Lawrence has never seen a trespasser on her camera, ever. Isn't sure she's ever personally seen anyone's surveillance video. Her mom's car was rummaged through. It was unlocked. Still unnerving. Didn't call 911.
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Lawrence hasn't witnessed any crime, or seen or heard about physical assaults. The only thing going on was car break-ins? She says, and reports of people lurking around. Didn't necessarily read theories on FB page. Doesn't remember suggestion it was teens
Camarillo asks about convo b/t Lawrence & Travis McMichael after #AhmaudArbery's shooting. He told her there was a video he & his dad were planning on "leaking." She agreed to share it when it was. To get out the neighborhood's version of past events & what led to this
Several neighbors had seen the #AhmaudArbery video? They showed her. "You've seen it?" Lawrence says yes. At that point nobody knew they'd engaged in a full-on chase thru the neighborhood? "I don't know what everyone knew." Did they tell you they chased or followed him?
Lawrence says, Correct, Greg & Travis McMichael had never told her they'd engaged in a chase of #AhmaudArbery. She didn't talk to anyone else about a "chase." "I didn't know there was a chase."
State: At some point after the homicide, Travis McMichael asked you to admit him to the FB page under the name "Travis Hathner (?)". Lawrence says his page had been hacked. To monitor what was going on under this fake name? Look at what people were saying? "Right."
Lawrence says she was willing to put Travis McMichael on neighborhood FB page under fake name because "I believed the account of the events as they were told to me by the family. I didn't see a reason he shouldn't have access to what people were thinking."
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Laura Hogue says since defense of Greg & Travis McMichael has been joint in any ways, before there's any resting that goes on, she wants to perfect the record re: new evidence of mental health, #AhmaudArbery probation, & use of force expert--all prohibited by judge.
Hogue says you now have testimony from Travis McMichael that are consistent from the Gateway records and would be corroborated by our mental health expert.
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Back from recess. Kevin Gough notes "Martin Luther King, Jr. has graced us with his presence today." He's corrected: Martin Luther King the Third.
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Bob Rubin: On behalf of Travis McMichael, we rest. Frank Hogue: On behalf of Greg McMichael, we rest. Kevin Gough: Since we don't need to republish Night Owl video...we rest.
Judge tells jurors to return Monday 9 AM.
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There was someone who brought a bottle of water and poured it so Greg McMichael could rinse Ahmaud Arbery's blood off of his hands. And the officer said, "We have some wipes coming." We saw both those things on the bodycam. Here's the water-pouring.
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For the jury, yes. They'll return Monday for those. Lawyers will come back at 10AM Friday, though, to work on the jury instructions.
link: https://twitter.com/MissVWaters
AA looked like a hunted animal with GM riding in the back of the truck with a gun.It is amazing to me that they keep saying what Mr. Arbery should have done. You are right. Mr. Arbery had no where to go. Even if he did, he would have been smart to calculate that if these animals were hunting him that he would surely be fired up for trespassing on another person's property. I like that the prosecution isn't going to the point by point response but rather focusing on the words of these criminals. It is a losing proposition to begin to legitimize their faulty thinking. The jury could be swayed if they think the pros didn't address the position fully if they tackle the topic. I thought the pros team was brilliant today in their stepping TM through the idea that Mr. Arbery was just running, never threatening, not the aggressor with an invisible finger pointing to TM as the aggressor.
Has anyone else heard anything about the state saying no to a plea deal from W”R”B’s attorney
Has anyone else heard anything about the state saying no to a plea deal from W”R”B’s attorney
A lot that Gough says is BS.HLN is talking about it right now. Gough is claiming that the request for a plea deal is BS.
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