GA - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 10 counts in 2020 election interference, violation of RICO Act, 14 Aug 2023 #2

[Niner]

Hey!

RSBM.

@Niner

Thanking you for all that you do; for all the time and effort you are expending for the benefit of the site and all of us fllowing these cases. You are a machine. It is very much appreciated by this girl.

Any newsroom in the nation would be envious of how @Niner keeps the court proceedings organized for us! Not joking!

jmo

You are ALL quite welcome! I used to be an office manager/bookkeeper - so like "order". But it gets a bit harder to keep ALL these cases straight! LOL! If you - anyone - sees a mistake please let me know!

It's August 2023, and he refers to himself as I, President Donald Trump....

Yes, I know the title is used for former presidents, but, any honor from the title is no longer due after he tried to overthrow an election and stay in office after losing, imo.

His ego is bigger than his fake inauguration crowd size and bigger than his assets he lies about.


jmo

That is why in my notes I have been taking "former President"....
or even "President" as in his latest motion!

Don't leave us with the crazies!

jmo

I left in 2020....

 

[Niner]

Oh - anything happen at yesterday's hearing for ALL?

TIA!

edited to add - in the mean time I will move this to my Sept. 6th notes for their arraignments.

 

[Friday Fan]

Could also be due to being nervous.

I think she's auditioning for her next "job". MOO
She may be acquitted. She may get a light sentence. She's looking forward to being back in circulation.

Lots of convicted politicians have "commentator" jobs.
MOO MOO MOO

 

[BritsKate]

21 year vereran of the DOJ, Elizabeth de la Vega:
As expected, DA Fani Willis' brief filed today clearly set everyone straight, in a polite way, about the (very limited) role of overt acts in the RICO charge and the non-existent role of overt acts in a removal analysis. Excellent job!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1697392664021258705

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The fact that this is Ms. Willis, what, 11 or 12th RICO indictment now really seems to work in her favor - she is immensely prepared and knowledgeable and it really shows in her filings. Meanwhile, the media keep telling me how good Meadows attorney (George Terwilliger) is.

Their filing shows little understanding of GA RICO law, imo, as they're hung up on overt acts but also Meadows and his attorneys have never argued that this overt action was as COS but this one was a campaign effort - they've lumped them all together to support a wobbly removal bid but that also rather opened the door for Ms. Willis to argue he would have had to violate federal law if there was no delineation (the Hatch Act). And Mr. Meadows entering into the conspiracy as COS flies in the face of removal as breaking Georgia state law couldn't possibly be considered under color of office.

So, the media keep banging on about how esteemed Terwilliger and associates are but I'm becoming a Fani fangirl. JMO

 

[BritsKate]

While I'm complaining about bad lawyering I'm reminded that Giuliani gave an interview to Newsmax in which he attacked Brian Kemp for not supporting Fani Willis being ousted by that commission - just want to remind everyone that Brian Kemp is a witness for the prosecution. I know if I were a criminal defendant I'd go on TV to confess (John Eastman, FOX) or criticize folks testifying against me.

Trump's a terrible client who is incapable of curbing his worst impulses and struggles to control himself. But it hits totally different when lawyers who should damn well know better do such monumentally stupid damage to their cases/person.
JMO

 

[JerseyGirl]

Trump Spokesperson Has Major Freudian Slip On What Ex-President Does 'Right'

Alina Habba swiftly corrected herself after fumbling remarks aimed at Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp.

news.yahoo.com

“Elected officials have to do what’s popular and sometimes not what’s right, and that’s a problem. That’s, I think, why people get nervous about Trump. He doesn’t do what’s popular or what’s right,” said Habba, who swiftly corrected her flub in an interview with Newsmax on Thursday. “Or what I should say, I should say he only does what’s right, he doesn’t do what’s popular.”

Habba’s remarks were in response to Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R), who declared this week that the state would not be “engaging in political theater” as he shut down calls within his party to remove or punish Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

 

[ilovewings]

Trump Spokesperson Has Major Freudian Slip On What Ex-President Does 'Right'

Alina Habba swiftly corrected herself after fumbling remarks aimed at Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp.

news.yahoo.com

“Elected officials have to do what’s popular and sometimes not what’s right, and that’s a problem. That’s, I think, why people get nervous about Trump. He doesn’t do what’s popular or what’s right,” said Habba, who swiftly corrected her flub in an interview with Newsmax on Thursday. “Or what I should say, I should say he only does what’s right, he doesn’t do what’s popular.”

Habba’s remarks were in response to Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R), who declared this week that the state would not be “engaging in political theater” as he shut down calls within his party to remove or punish Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

I think she got it right the first time LOL

 

[ilovewings]

Florida lawyer files challenge to disqualify Trump from 2024 race, citing 14th Amendment

A Florida lawyer is challenging former President Trump’s ability to run for president in 2024 under the U.S. Constitution’s 14th Amendment, citing the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack. Lawr…

thehill.com

From listening to the pundits on MSNBC there will be more lawsuits filed to disqualify Trump from even getting on the ballot--- IMO he simply cannot be allowed to run for the highest office in the land- his latest statement is that he will lock up his perceived foes. We will then be a country more in line with Russia--- Trump does not want to be president: he wants to be THE RULER- we really are, as a country, in grave danger.

 

[browning]

Lol

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Mark Meadows might have just perjured himself

Fulton County DA Fani Willis noted in court filings that Trump's former chief of staff "was forced to acknowledge" role in fake elector plot during testimony.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Mark Meadows might have just perjured himself

Fulton County DA Fani Willis noted in court filings that Trump's former chief of staff "was forced to acknowledge" role in fake elector plot during testimony.

www.newsweek.com

From the link:
"Former Pentagon special counsel Ryan Goodman suggested that Meadows has a 'potential perjury problem' after he initially denied having a role in the fake electors' scheme to falsely declare Trump had beaten Joe Biden in Georgia and other states at the 2020 election, but later acknowledged a part in the plot while under oath."

 

[ilovewings]

State election officials prepare for efforts to disqualify Trump under 14th Amendment

Efforts to keep former President Donald Trump off the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment are gaining momentum as election officials in key states are preparing for or starting to respond to legal challenges to Trump's candidacy. The argument to disqualify Trump from appearing on primary or...

www.yahoo.com

The push to keep Trump off the ballot is gaining steam: it won't be easy--

 

[BritsKate]

Katie Phang (msnbc legal analyst and lawyer in her own right) said that if Alina Habba is quarterbacking Trump's legal defense, she's just fast-tracking him to jail.

(I'm developing a theory that Trump is surrounded by the worst lawyers in America, btw. )

https://twitter.com/x/status/1697529640511050056

 

[BritsKate]

After years of waiting for those who sought to overturn the 2020 election to be held responsible, it’s somewhat surreal to watch the sudden pileup of different institutions in different jurisdictions seeking accountability in different forms. The criminal prosecutions have taken a long time to get moving. But so, too, did the bar investigations, which now find themselves eclipsed by upcoming trials. Whatever punishment bar authorities choose to mete out, the professional fate of these lawyers may be determined instead by what happens in criminal court: In many jurisdictions, a felony conviction results in automatic disbarment or suspension of one’s license.

A very lengthy article outlining the disciplinary actions against the indicted lawyers with parallels to Watergate. Four of the five unindicted co-conspirators identified in the federal indictment are currently facing ethics investigations. Nearly half (8) of the co-defendants in the GA RICO indictment are lawyers themselves.

The Legal Profession Reckons With Jan. 6

Among the co-conspirators identified by Jack Smith and Fani Willis are a great number of lawyers—many of whom are also facing potential professional sanctions.

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

[Inthedetails]

Katie Phang (msnbc legal analyst and lawyer in her own right) said that if Alina Habba is quarterbacking Trump's legal defense, she's just fast-tracking him to jail.

(I'm developing a theory that Trump is surrounded by the worst lawyers in America, btw. )

https://twitter.com/x/status/1697529640511050056

But how can that be bad thing when the lawyer is pretty? That's what matters to the defendant, that she looks good on TV. imo

jmo

 

[JerseyGirl]

On Thursday, Trump entered a plea of “Not Guilty” in the election crimes case that’s set for trial in Fulton County, Georgia — and which will be televised live.

Hours and hours later, Trump was apparently still awake ranting on Truth Social about the cases against him. Amid a blizzard of re-posts, Trump weighed in at just after 3 a.m. to blast the trials and share his interview with Levin, writing:

I am being “railroaded” by a highly partisan and corrupt system of INJUSTICE, headed up by an opponent who is losing in the polls and, simultaneously with all of this, destroying our once Great Country! This Mark Levin interview is a MUST WATCH!

Minutes later, Trump added:

Keep Indicting your Political Opponent, it makes no difference for what, or why. Keep him off the “campaign trail” and in the courthouse instead. Don’t think of his Rights, the Constitution, or Liberty. Sit back and WATCH AMERICA CRUMBLE!

Several more minutes deeper into the night, Trump wrote:

But their is no system of justice. Our Court System is rigged against me!

Trump Posts Attack On Judge Chutkan After 3 AM Rage Bender At ‘Corrupt System of INJUSTICE’

Ex-President Trump posted an attack on Judge Tanya Chutkan hours past midnight, and on the heels of a rant about the "corrupt system of INJUSTICE" he now faces.

www.mediaite.com

 

[BritsKate]

But how can that be bad thing when the lawyer is pretty? That's what matters to the defendant, that she looks good on TV. imo

jmo

For the girl lawyers anyway. The guys usually need to be loud and rude.

 

[Vern]

Any opinions on how Trump's PAC, and some GOP Pacs, fare out in all of this?

- The PAC paying the legal fees and potentially violating Campaign Finance laws;
- Meadows offering up "Campaign money to count votes in Georgia";
- Paid for fake electors to be scouted out, gathered up to 'vote' forged documents;
- Paid for voting machines to be illegally accessed;
- Paid indicted lawyers' expenses in furtherance of the fake elector scheme and attempts to have former VP Pence ignore the law on 6 Jan; and
- Basicly BEING the funding entity for this Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization

Post trials, if there's a conviction, does anyone foresee the sword of justice coming for the PAC money managers etc for funding a criminal organization --- essentially they'd be "part of" that RICO entity too would they not?

 

[sds71]

@AnnaBower
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Just in: Judge McAfee DENIES Fani Willis's request to advise defendants of how a speedy trial demand impacts their rights to certain discovery deadlines and notice of trial.

McAfee says that imposing the deadlines Willis set out in her motion would conflict with the way he typically runs trials, as set out in his standing case management order. So, he denies the motion, but says Willis can raise the issue down the road if it becomes relevant.

23SC188947 - ORDER Discovery

www.documentcloud.org

 

[BritsKate]

Any opinions on how Trump's PAC, and some GOP Pacs, fare out in all of this?

- The PAC paying the legal fees and potentially violating Campaign Finance laws;
- Meadows offering up "Campaign money to count votes in Georgia";
- Paid for fake electors to be scouted out, gathered up to 'vote' forged documents;
- Paid for voting machines to be illegally accessed;
- Paid indicted lawyers' expenses in furtherance of the fake elector scheme and attempts to have former VP Pence ignore the law on 6 Jan; and
- Basicly BEING the funding entity for this Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization

Post trials, if there's a conviction, does anyone foresee the sword of justice coming for the PAC money managers etc for funding a criminal organization --- essentially they'd be "part of" that RICO entity too would they not?

The problem has always been that the rules around PACs are very lax (they and campaigns can cover legal fees in relation to the campaign) so I wouldn't bet on seeing charges in relation to RICO - BUT Trump's Save America PAC is currently under investigation by Smith's team for lying to donors about the election so I've got my fingers crossed for wire fraud somewhere down the way - and there's no telling what his team will unearth. It's not like these folks are good at hiding crimes. JMO

The special counsel has long been thought to be scrutinizing whether Trump or his PAC violated federal laws by raising money off claims of voter fraud they knew were false. Last week’s indictment of Trump, on charges that he conspired to overturn the results of the 2020 election, did not include any allegations of financial crime.

Special counsel still scrutinizing finances of Trump’s PAC

A week after the newest indictment of the former president, Jack Smith's investigation remains ongoing.

www.politico.com