GA - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 10 counts in 2020 election interference, violation of RICO Act, 14 Aug 2023

[MyBelle]

From your link:

A second report, also unsealed by the judge, was authored by national security nonprofit MITRE. That group argued the hacks identified by Halderman were “operationally infeasible” based on normal voting practices, scale considerations, and adherence to strict security measures.

It’s a view shared by Georgia officials, who included the MITRE report in a press release that criticized Halderman's report.

Mike Hassinger, a spokesman for Raffensperger's office, said that responding to this report all day felt like he was "stuck in a Dumb and Dumber paradox," referencing a character's response to a one in a million likelihood: "So, you're telling me there's a chance?"

And already, it's being declared a bombshell by those who sought to overturn the results of the 2020 election, despite no evidence of any actual hacking in that contest.

Steve Bannon, a former Trump strategist, spoke about Halderman's report with several guests on his "War Room" show, including Garland Favorito, an activist who runs an election integrity group in Georgia.

BBM. That second report written by MITRE was paid for by Dominion. Of course, they are going to say the system was safe. Of course, Raffensperger's office is going to support it because his office purchased the Dominion system for $107 million of taxpayer money ahead of the 2020 election.

My family in the Atlanta area includes several Republicans and they think Raffensperger is just another corrupt Atlanta politician.

JMO

 

[waldojabba]

Fox settled. A settlement isn't a win. It also took place before the cyber security expert's 2018 evaluation was unsealed earlier this summer.

Halderman's evaluation was specific to the Georgia federal lawsuit but if the systems are all the same, I would hope that all states that use Dominion should be very concerned.
JMO

Expert report fuels election doubts as Georgia waits to update voting software

A newly unsealed expert report arguing that Georgia’s Dominion voting machines are vulnerable to hacking is fueling election doubts in Georgia.

www.nbcnews.com

Further note : So per Halderman, the software is vulnerable - imo so it’s worth the discussion at the Georgia state level which they seem to be having with the lawsuit
“The Halderman report was the result of a computer scientist having complete access to the Dominion equipment and software for three months in a laboratory environment. It identified risks that are theoretical and imaginary. Our security measures are real and mitigate all of them," Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger wrote in a letter to state lawmakers, which Raffensperger's office shared with NBC News.”
- For purposes of this thread and the arrests imo this lawsuit would seem to have no bearing
“There is no evidence that hackers have attempted to exploit any of the identified vulnerabilities, or that any such hack has occurred in previous elections”
All imo

 

[vls12345]

Those who may potentially end up in Fulton County Jail if convicted will not be going to a nice place...

Don't want to go too OT in this thread but did want to post a link to a story from today and a separate thread here:

Another Fulton County inmate dies; third in 1 month

Alexander Hawkins, 66, was found unresponsive in a medical unit cell at Fulton County Jail on Thursday.

www.atlantanewsfirst.com

Fyi, there is a separate thread on here for Lashawn Thompson, who died a horrific death there in April. Since then, there have been multiple other deaths at the jail.

GA - Lashawn Thompson, 35, dies of negligence and horrific abuse while in jail awaiting trial on misdemeanor charge, Fulton Co., 14 Apr 2023

https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-inmate-eaten-alive-by-bugs-conditions-not-fit-deceased-animal-family-attorney-says Lashawn Thompson was allegedly eaten alive by bugs in his Atlanta jail cell while awaiting trial for a June 2022 misdemeanor simple battery charge, according to his family's...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Inthedetails]

RSBM:

I agree 1000%!!

It bears repeating!

How many times does it take, though?

jmo

 

[waldojabba]

Those who may potentially end up in Fulton County Jail if convicted will not be going to a nice place...

Don't want to go too OT in this thread but did want to post a link to a story from today and a separate thread here:

Another Fulton County inmate dies; third in 1 month

Alexander Hawkins, 66, was found unresponsive in a medical unit cell at Fulton County Jail on Thursday.

www.atlantanewsfirst.com

Fyi, there is a separate thread on here for Lashawn Thompson, who died a horrific death there in April. Since then, there have been multiple other deaths at the jail.

GA - Lashawn Thompson, 35, dies of negligence and horrific abuse while in jail awaiting trial on misdemeanor charge, Fulton Co., 14 Apr 2023

https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-inmate-eaten-alive-by-bugs-conditions-not-fit-deceased-animal-family-attorney-says Lashawn Thompson was allegedly eaten alive by bugs in his Atlanta jail cell while awaiting trial for a June 2022 misdemeanor simple battery charge, according to his family's...

www.websleuths.com

Well This is an eye opener ! Looks like this something else Georgia’s needs to have a discussion about. If you get arrested for shop lifting and end up dead in a medical unit in jail a mere day or so later - that’s unspeakable. Imo

 

[vls12345]

Well This is an eye opener ! Looks like this something else Georgia’s needs to have a discussion about. If you get arrested for shop lifting and end up dead in a medical unit in jail a mere day or so later - that’s unspeakable. Imo

They are under investigation (July 13, 2023):

Justice Department Announces Investigation into Conditions in Fulton County, Georgia Jail

The Justice Department announced today that it has opened a civil investigation into the conditions in the Fulton County Jail in Georgia.

www.justice.gov

 

[SouthAussie]

As I understand it, the indicted people need to show up at the jail. Then what? They are booked and then the jail can release them on bond?

Just wondering how the process works (if anyone knows).

 

[vls12345]

As I understand it, the indicted people need to show up at the jail. Then what? They are booked and then the jail can release them on bond?

Just wondering how the process works (if anyone knows).

Attorney weighs in on typical booking process at Fulton County jail

All eyes are on Fulton County after 19 people, including former President Donald Trump, were indicted Monday night.

www.11alive.com

 

[Lilibet]

My family in the Atlanta area includes several Republicans and they think Raffensperger is just another corrupt Atlanta politician.

<modsnip> What matters is that Raffensperger did not bow to Trumps pressure to “find” him one more vote than he needed. The request by Trump was corrupt and Willis was right to open an investigation. She would have been corrupt if she had turned a blind eye to Trump’s actions. The facts laid out in the grand jury’s charges speak for themselves and the court will decide whether the defendants are guilty.

JMO

 

[Leilei]

As I understand it, the indicted people need to show up at the jail. Then what? They are booked and then the jail can release them on bond?

Just wondering how the process works (if anyone knows).

Most, if not all, of those indicted in this particular case probably have their attorneys discussing bond options with the DA. If bond is approved ahead of time, the process moves faster. Turn yourself in, go through mug shots, fingerprinting, etc... bond out, and you're done. Normally, it can take hours, especially with a jail and county that big. Since the sheriff is having to work with Secret Service and such, it will probably be a faster process, at least for Trump. Most defendants that can't bond out end up waiting in a cell until they can see the judge, which can take days sometimes.
At least I think that's how it works - don't quote me on this lol.
This whole situation is unprecedented, so it's interesting to see how Fulton County handles it.
IMO

 

[MyBelle]

Further note : So per Halderman, the software is vulnerable - imo so it’s worth the discussion at the Georgia state level which they seem to be having with the lawsuit
“The Halderman report was the result of a computer scientist having complete access to the Dominion equipment and software for three months in a laboratory environment. It identified risks that are theoretical and imaginary. Our security measures are real and mitigate all of them," Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger wrote in a letter to state lawmakers, which Raffensperger's office shared with NBC News.”
- For purposes of this thread and the arrests imo this lawsuit would seem to have no bearing
“There is no evidence that hackers have attempted to exploit any of the identified vulnerabilities, or that any such hack has occurred in previous elections”
All imo

The software is vulnerable, but Raffensperger is refusing to implement the necessary protections prior to the 2024 election.

In my opinion, the Curling lawsuit absolutely has bearing on this thread. An election worker in Coffee County who was just indicted was concerned the system had been hacked in the 2021 election and she did report it and was ignored. She was subpoenaed to testify in the Curling lawsuit which is at the federal level. It shocks me that she has been indicted for trying to do her job.

We'll agree to disagree.
JMO

 

[MyBelle]

As I understand it, the indicted people need to show up at the jail. Then what? They are booked and then the jail can release them on bond?

Just wondering how the process works (if anyone knows).

I have no idea how it is supposed to work. I've never heard of someone going to a jail to be booked. Maybe an attorney can weigh in. Sorry.

 

[SouthAussie]

Most, if not all, of those indicted in this particular case probably have their attorneys discussing bond options with the DA. If bond is approved ahead of time, the process moves faster. Turn yourself in, go through mug shots, fingerprinting, etc... bond out, and you're done. Normally, it can take hours, especially with a jail and county that big. Since the sheriff is having to work with Secret Service and such, it will probably be a faster process, at least for Trump. Most defendants that can't bond out end up waiting in a cell until they can see the judge, which can take days sometimes.
At least I think that's how it works - don't quote me on this lol.
This whole situation is unprecedented, so it's interesting to see how Fulton County handles it.
IMO

Thank you, and thanks to @vls12345 for their link.

I was wondering if any of them might be waiting in jail to see a judge for a bond decision. (Of course, not DT who will have high priced lawyers negotiate his immediate release.)

Maybe the PAC will pay for lawyers for all of them.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Will Mr Trump be photographed and fingerprinted ?

If so will this be the first time he's had to go through the process.

Oh and will his booking photo be released to the media ?

 

[SouthAussie]

The software is vulnerable, but Raffensperger is refusing to implement the necessary protections prior to the 2024 election.

In my opinion, the Curling lawsuit absolutely has bearing on this thread. An election worker in Coffee County who was just indicted was concerned the system had been hacked in the 2021 election and she did report it and was ignored. She was subpoenaed to testify in the Curling lawsuit which is at the federal level. It shocks me that she has been indicted for trying to do her job.

We'll agree to disagree.
JMO

The software is also used successfully throughout Canada. I have read quite a lot about it. It is actually quite a ‘tried and true’ system, despite the conspiracy theories. imo

I find it an awful shame that a reputable company has been trashed just because DT lost the election.

 

[vls12345]

Oh and will his booking photo be released to the media ?

Mugshot Websites

If someone has been arrested, his or her arrest booking photograph (“mugshot”), along with other information such as the person’s name, arrest date and birth date, may be posted on a publically available commercial website. The owners of these websites obtain the photographs from public records...

consumer.georgia.gov

Georgia Mugshot Laws and How They Impact the Criminal Justice System | The Reputation Attorney

In recent years, the state of Georgia has passed several laws regarding the public availability of mugshots. These laws have created a lot of controversy and confusion in both criminal law and civil law, as they can have an impact on individuals’ rights to privacy, protection from reputational...

thereputationattorney.com

 

[Ladyotm]

As I understand it, the indicted people need to show up at the jail. Then what? They are booked and then the jail can release them on bond?

Just wondering how the process works (if anyone knows).

How does this all work with his Secret Service detail?

 

[Leilei]

Will Mr Trump be photographed and fingerprinted ?

If so will this be the first time he's had to go through the process.

Oh and will his booking photo be released to the media ?

Sheriff Labat said that the mugshot is waiting for DJT at the jail lol.
No special treatment according to him.
Rudy's mugshot is going to be... well, it's going to be Rudy.

 

[Vern]

As I understand it, the indicted people need to show up at the jail. Then what? They are booked and then the jail can release them on bond?

Just wondering how the process works (if anyone knows).

Found this page which explains it very well. In Georgia, booking indicted persons at the county jail is normal.

Atlanta Arrest Process | Arraignment Hearings in Atlanta

Everything you might want to know about the arrest process in Atlanta, from the moment of arrest to being let out on bail, and finally to the arraignment.

lawyeratl.com

 

[Leilei]

How does this all work with his Secret Service detail?

That's something they've been trying to coordinate, apparently. They started setting things up outside the jail earlier this week from what I've read, including a press area.