GA - Rayshard Brooks, 27, fatally shot in Wendy’s car park, Atlanta, 12 Jun 2020 *officer charged*

[mickey2942]

In Las Vegas, drunk drivers and public drunkenness is common behavior. So much so, that calling "911" about this is not going to get officers to show up. Especially if someone is just passed out in their car. Yes, it inconvenienced patrons at Wendy's.

It is interesting, because where I live now, small town in Montana, this situation would have literally had no less than 3 squad cars, maybe even the Sheriff on duty. They never have anything to do, so one call gets 3 or 4 cars.

Both responses illustrate that different cities respond differently to the same circumstance. It is unlikely that Brooks would have been belligerent with 6 officers around. And in Vegas, Brooks would have just slept it off. They usually only show up if shots are being fired.

 

[katydid23]

Rayshard Brooks death: Lawyers beg for police to be charged | Daily Mail Online

Erika Shields, the Atlanta Police Chief, resigned after the video surfaced but she has not commented publicly on the incident.

Atlanta Mayor Keisha Bottoms said it was 'heartbreaking' and that she wished the officers had simply let Brooks call a friend to come to pick him up.

'This has been hard and it has really been difficult for me to put aside my own anger and sadness during this time and really be able to articulate what our communities need to hear."

'What can you say? I've watched the bodycam video, I watched it for 30 minutes.

'I watched the interaction with Mr. Brooks and it broke my heart.

'When they talk about his daughter's birthday party that he was planning for... this is not confrontational.

'This was a guy that you were rooting for.

'Even knowing the end, watching, you're going, "just let him go. Let him go. Let him call somebody to pick him up."

'I think that's the challenge we're all facing as leaders right now. When these things continue to happen over and over again, we're asking ourselves, how do we lead at this time?

'We will get to the other side of this but in the meantime we've got to keep pushing,' she said.

What a ridiculous interview.
For example:
'When they talk about his daughter's birthday party that he was planning for... this is not confrontational."

Right, that part was not confrontational. He was pleasant and non- confrontational. But he was lying and denying that drove his car while drunk.

It wasn't until the officer told him he was under arrest, that he suddenly became combative.


Even knowing the end, watching, you're going, "just let him go. Let him go. Let him call somebody to pick him up."


So now it's the officer's fault because he made the decision to arrest a drunk driver for a DUI. Are people with sob stories automatically going to be given cab rides home instead of being held accountable?

Plenty of times cops do make that decision and give people a break. But are we going to publicly blame and shame an officer for doing it by the book?

This was a 27 yr old father of four. He wasn't a college kid at spring break. He knew better than to drive drunk. Why shouldn't he face an arrest like all of us would?


When these things continue to happen over and over again, we're asking ourselves...


Why are 'these things' happening over and over again? Let's break down this one that just happened...The police were polite and respectful, as was the suspect.

The police made a lawful arrest, by the book. They had done nothing wrong at this point, although some find fault with them not allowing him to walk home or take a cab etc. That's a judgment call and up to their discretion. Maybe they didn't like the way he lied to them throughout the interaction?

But WHY did this thing happen? Up until they began the arrest, everything was fine.

Things went bad when the suspect punched the cop, wrestled with them and grabbed the taser, shooting it at the cop. IT WAS AT THAT MOMENT, that the officer pulled out his gun to shoot back.

So the answer to the question is this happened because the suspect stole the taser and shot it at the officer, who felt endangered at that point.


Maybe these things are happening because of the way cops are being treated, not always vice versa?

 

[katydid23]

Well, if so many are saying they should have had him call someone to pick him up, or they should have let him go should LE no longer arrest someone for DWI/DUI?

Apparently not.

 

[mickey2942]

This happened so fast. He was compliant, then, went cray cray.

If Brooks had not been so belligerent, he would be alive. That is what it looks like to me. Not sure why the officer was fired.

 

[tresir2012]

It depends on what the drunk and addicts are shooting.

If the officer knew it was a taser (and there is a pretty good to extremely good chance that he did), then lethal force is very questionable.

The Mayor of Atlanta made a very good, but very low key comment when she observed that being able to do something does not always mean that one needs to do something.

The above aside, I am very supportive of the police and the need to prevent looting. Trump was right to call out the National Guard once he saw that looting had moved from spontaneous to systematic.

If you look at the Javier Ambler thread you will see that a taser killed him so it is lethal.

 

[katydid23]

This happened so fast. He was compliant, then, went cray cray.

If Brooks had not been so belligerent, he would be alive. That is what it looks like to me. Not sure why the officer was fired.

The officer was fired because the authorities were worried that Atlanta would burn to the ground that night. He was sacrificed.

 

[Jax49]

Trump calls shooting death of Rayshard Brooks 'very disturbing'

Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard said he hopes to decide by midweek whether to charge the officers. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation was put in charge of the investigation

 

[katydid23]

I think we have to make a distinction between “criminals” and someone with a dui or other misdemeanor. I think it would be better to use police resources going after real criminals.

So driving drunk is not criminal?

 

[mickey2942]

The officer was fired because the authorities were worried that Atlanta would burn to the ground that night. He was sacrificed.

Of course, I apologize for trying to apply logic to the situation.

 

[katydid23]

I did not say leave them alone, i said handle it differently. If in this case his car was impounded and he went home to family this would not have happened. If you want to tell me how police can be trained in a few weeks to subdue someone like Mr. Brooks efficiently after a few months of training, i am all ears.

His car was going to be impounded and he was going to go home to his family. He just had to go bail himself out first and go to court for the DUI.

 

[TristanP]

In Mr. Brooks case, it would have been better if he didn't resist arrest.
We can Monday morning quarterback all night. What if he flipped out when he got his ticket and grabbed the tazor then?

This logic is my favorite one: now we are trying to justify a murder based on what someone *might* do.

 

[Laughing]

This logic is my favorite one: now we are trying to justify a murder based on what someone *might* do.

No one has been to court yet. We're still at the "officer involved shooting" or "discharge of service weapon" stage.

 

[asmi106082]

Well, I would not go quite that far. One thing that many people want to see changed is the amount of discretion cops have in deploying lethal force. Most developed countries do not allow anywhere near this amount of leeway.
These days all uniformed officers carry their sidearm in a holster that has various levels of retention. That is to say that for all intents and purposes said handgun is locked in its holster until the officer “decides” to unlock it and draw his weapon.
I am much more interested in knowing why the officer drew his handgun while chasing someone who was running away holding a non lethal weapon.

These officers had a split second to react. They pulled their weapon because the subject gave them no choice. He reached for their waists and then, instead of just booking it, he turned around and aimed at the police. Were the police officers supposed to take the time to analyze what exactly he had taken from their waistband and what he was pointing? Sorry but this guy should have just run. These cops did not want a confrontation. It was quite clear.

 

[mickey2942]

I won't second guess a police officer. Because I would never want to do their job.

 

[Rocky1]

I believe anyone facing imminent harm is entitled to protect themselves. Its already changing and nobody is taking over the country.

I believe anyone facing imminent harm has been entitled to protect themselves since the 6th century as written in The Digest Of Justitian. It's called self defense.
Nothing new here.

 

[Curiosity1234]

I wonder if Justin Timberlake knows about Rayshards arrest and conviction for Child cruelty, and domestic violence and kidnapping?

It really bothers me the way everyone is playing up his fatherhood and his being a dad to an 8 yr old. As if the officers he was assaulting aren't fathers, and didnt want to go home to their families either.


Georgia Prison (DOC) Arrest Records for Inmate RAYSHARD BROOKS

RAYSHARD BROOKS Arrest Details



Georgia (GA) Prison Arrest Details
NAME: BROOKS, RAYSHARD
GDC ID: 1001370147

PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION
YOB: 1993
RACE: BLACK
GENDER: MALE
HEIGHT: 5'07''
WEIGHT: 185
EYE COLOR: BROWN
HAIR COLOR: BLACK

SCARS, MARKS, TATTOOS


INCARCERATION DETAILS
MAJOR OFFENSE: FALSE IMPRISONMENT
MOST RECENT INSTITUTION: MITCHELL COUNTY CI
MAX POSSIBLE RELEASE DATE: 12/23/2014

I
ACTUAL RELEASE DATE: 12/23/2014
CURRENT STATUS: INACTIVE


KNOWN ALIASES
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAGSHARD
A.K.A. BROOKS,RASHAD
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAY ANTONIO
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAY POZ
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAYSARD
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAYSHARD

STATE OF GEORGIA - CURRENT SENTENCES
CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: simple battery
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/31/2014
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: cruelty to children
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/31/2014
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: FALSE IMPRISONMENT
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/31/2014
SENTENCE LENGTH: 7 YEARS, 0 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: family violence battery
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/31/2014
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: THEFT BY REC STOLEN PROP
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/02/2013
SENTENCE LENGTH: 7 YEARS, 0 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: CRMNL INTERFERE GOVT PROP
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/02/2013
SENTENCE LENGTH: 5 YEARS, 0 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: obstr of law enf officer
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/02/2013
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

STATE OF GEORGIA - PRIOR SENTENCES
STATE OF GEORGIA - INCARCERATION HISTORY
INCARCERATION BEGIN: 08/29/2014
INCARCERATION END: 12/23/2014
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I'm not interested in hearing about Justine Timberlake's or any other celebrity's point of view about this incident. They might want to educate themselves by watching the video before they pass judgement on the police officers.

 

[Rocky1]

Nypd just announced major changes. I am not the only one doing any “monday morning quarterbacking.”

Are you talking about dis-banning the NYPD Anti Crime Unit that they have been talking about doing for well over a year now? When I say "dis-banning" I don't mean less officers, I mean eliminating the name, and taking the same 600 plain clothes officers and have them wear uniforms?
Are you talking about cops having to report firing their weapon within 6 hours of doing so?
Please explain the changes you are referring to because all I see so far is the public having the ability to see more police on the streets. Is that what this protest was supposed to accomplish?
Perhaps you can explain the changes these protesters want, because to be honest, I don't think they know themselves.
Enlighten me, please.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Some Atlanta cops were recently arrested and charged with aggravated assault for using tasers on some protesters. Here is the Georgia code for AA.

Aggravated assault, a felony in Georgia, is an assault that is committed:

• with the intent to rob, rape or murder
• with a deadly weapon or any object that can be or is used in a manner that results in serious bodily injury or strangulation, or
• by discharging a firearm from a vehicle.

(Ga. Code Ann. § 16-5-21).

It appears in that case a taser is considered to be a deadly weapon.

Does that mean that Rayshard Brooks was also using a deadly weapon by firing the taser at police? If so would that mean the officers acted lawfully in using their firearms?

Atlanta cops are arrested and mugshots released after violent confrontation with students | Daily Mail Online

Georgia Aggravated Assault & Battery Laws

 

[akazia1978]

It irritates me when I see people say the officers should have given him a ride home. Since when? I went to jail when I got a DUI. I was not disagreeable in anyway. I went quietly and did my time...like the vast majority of people. Here in my town, someone got shot for going after officers with a hammer. Nothing happened to the officers. I can't pass judgement on what someone does in the moment...you just never know how you are going to react when you feel your life could be in danger.
Maybe they should have just let him run away and nabbed him later, but hindsight is 20/20

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I wonder if Justin Timberlake knows about Rayshards arrest and conviction for Child cruelty, and domestic violence and kidnapping?

It really bothers me the way everyone is playing up his fatherhood and his being a dad to an 8 yr old. As if the officers he was assaulting aren't fathers, and didnt want to go home to their families either.


Georgia Prison (DOC) Arrest Records for Inmate RAYSHARD BROOKS

RAYSHARD BROOKS Arrest Details



Georgia (GA) Prison Arrest Details
NAME: BROOKS, RAYSHARD
GDC ID: 1001370147

PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION
YOB: 1993
RACE: BLACK
GENDER: MALE
HEIGHT: 5'07''
WEIGHT: 185
EYE COLOR: BROWN
HAIR COLOR: BLACK

SCARS, MARKS, TATTOOS


INCARCERATION DETAILS
MAJOR OFFENSE: FALSE IMPRISONMENT
MOST RECENT INSTITUTION: MITCHELL COUNTY CI
MAX POSSIBLE RELEASE DATE: 12/23/2014

I
ACTUAL RELEASE DATE: 12/23/2014
CURRENT STATUS: INACTIVE


KNOWN ALIASES
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAGSHARD
A.K.A. BROOKS,RASHAD
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAY ANTONIO
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAY POZ
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAYSARD
A.K.A. BROOKS,RAYSHARD

STATE OF GEORGIA - CURRENT SENTENCES
CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: simple battery
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/31/2014
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: cruelty to children
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/31/2014
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: FALSE IMPRISONMENT
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/31/2014
SENTENCE LENGTH: 7 YEARS, 0 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: family violence battery
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/31/2014
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: THEFT BY REC STOLEN PROP
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/02/2013
SENTENCE LENGTH: 7 YEARS, 0 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: CRMNL INTERFERE GOVT PROP
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/02/2013
SENTENCE LENGTH: 5 YEARS, 0 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

CASE NO: 794205
OFFENSE: obstr of law enf officer
CONVICTION COUNTY: CLAYTON COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 03/02/2013
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS

STATE OF GEORGIA - PRIOR SENTENCES
STATE OF GEORGIA - INCARCERATION HISTORY
INCARCERATION BEGIN: 08/29/2014
INCARCERATION END: 12/23/2014
"

Cruelty to children? Yuck.