GUILTY GA - Rusty Sneiderman shot to death at Dunwoody preschool, 18 Nov 2010 #5

[LaLaw2000]

I watched those clips with AS mother. She was/is fully committed to protecting her daughter even if it means perjuring herself. AS has certainly put her entire family through hell.

*Her poor children! Children always lose the most in this kind of thing. The better parent is gone and the worst remains.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Why are the commentators back so soon? They are not as interesting as they think they are, IMO.

I'm going to have to stop posting for a while because I can hardly get a post through!

 

[aa9511]

I have to imagine that somebody will bring that up and discuss it. When I'm trying to figure out where something leads, I follow it completely down the path. As some of you know, initially I completely gave her the benefit of the doubt in thinking that she was just trying to cover up the affair out of embarrassment. But as the trial unfolded and I really started picking apart the pieces of the testimony, this is where my thoughts lead me...


Did Andrea have an affair... IMO, yes, I believe there is substantial evidence to support that their relationship was much more than friendship.

So then why did she work so hard to cover it up; was it just out of embarrassment? I could see her feeling this way for the first few days... maybe slightly longer...

But as soon as the cops starting digging in to her phone, computer, other media, travel records etc AND started confronting her with very direct and serious statements about the importance of being honest (implying she could get herself in serious trouble), anybody without something to hide would fess up. Is it more important to find your husband's killer or to maintain your perfect appearance? Even if she's completely cold and doesn't care about her husband's killer, for nothing else, to preserve herself from going to jail... she should have fessed up. She should have said, oh my god I'm terribly ashamed... I did have an affair, I was too afraid to say anything but I'll give you everything you want. I just want to find his killer. Doesn't that make a lot more sense.

So with all that said... she didn't do that. She has fought tooth and nail to deny this affair, and has dragged her mom and friends in to it.

There are only two reasons that somebody would deny it to this level... either she didn't have an affair or she has something else to hide.

I think the evidence clearly shows she had the affair. So what are you left with...

That's how I started to turn around and really realize that it was much more. Who knows if the jury will go thru that exercise, but I have to think that some will.

Sorry for the long winded answer. I struggle with being brief

Wow, yes that makes A LOT of sense! I am also very puzzled as to why she is so adamant that there was NO AFFAIR....puzzled even if she did conspire with Hemy...b/c by the time of Hemy's trial, didn't she know all the evidence (or lack thereof) that the State had against her?? She would have known there was nothing there involving any evidence of her actually discussing the murder and conspiring with Hemy....she could have even then come out and said, yes omigosh yes, there was an affair, but I was soooo scared to say anything. I was so afraid that they would think I had something to do with the murder. I was afraid they would think I wanted Rusty killed. And because I denied it at the beginning, I was afriad to change my story. She could have opened up about and said that AT ANY POINT AFTER HER INITIAL INTERVIEW WITH THE POLICE.

Soooo.....why would she continue, continue, continue to deny THE OBVIOUS AFFAIR even to the point of going to prison for lying, even after her MURDER CHARGES HAVE BEEN DROPPED, even after Hemy's has been convicted and gone to prison? Because SHE IS AFRAID HEMY COULD TURN AROUND AND RAT HER OUT AT ANY MOMENT. That is the only logical reason I see for all this. She is afraid that if she acknowledges the affair, that will give backing to Hemy's claims if and when he decides to confess about her involvement. She is hiding it b/c she's guilty of conspiring with Hemy, and Hemy is the wild card in all this that she can't control anymore.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Why are the commentators back so soon? They are not as interesting as they think they are, IMO.

I'm going to have to stop posting for a while because I can hardly get a post through!

Ya. Sumptin up with WS. I had trouble all day yesterday, and last night was impossible. Each time I refresh, it's literaly minutes before it comes back up.
In the "me me me" catagory, I thought it was a it was a subtle reminder to me to quit posting so much. And you guys just had to suffer because of me.
Catholic guilt complex. lol

 

[Zuri]

Thank you for Carolina Moon for posting the video of AS mom on the stand. One of the things that has bothered me was that they did not go to the hospital from Dunwoody Prep, let alone they went to Dunwoody Prep first.

Based on the fact that RS had sustained 5 GSW, the likelihood of his surviving for any length of time was close to Zero. I am sure he was pronounced shortly after arriving at the hospital after attempts to revive him failed. So basically, RS died "alone". His wife apparently didn't think to ask where they took her husband. Normally, the ER will keep the deceased patient in a room for the family to see until the family arrives.

I am not clear as to why an officer did not meet AS as soon as she arrived at Dunwoody Prep. They were at the crime scene. According to AS mom, their first encounter with the police happened at AS home. Am I incorrect in this?

I do not understand either how the police worked this case. From some articles I read, there seemed to be no team work or continuity. Any info on this would be appreciated. I am late to this trial and I am very puzzled. TIA

 

[lisasalinger]

Wow, yes that makes A LOT of sense! I am also very puzzled as to why she is so adamant that there was NO AFFAIR....puzzled even if she did conspire with Hemy...b/c by the time of Hemy's trial, didn't she know all the evidence (or lack thereof) that the State had against her?? She would have known there was nothing there involving any evidence of her actually discussing the murder and conspiring with Hemy....she could have even then come out and said, yes omigosh yes, there was an affair, but I was soooo scared to say anything. I was so afraid that they would think I had something to do with the murder. I was afraid they would think I wanted Rusty killed. And because I denied it at the beginning, I was afriad to change my story. She could have opened up about and said that AT ANY POINT AFTER HER INITIAL INTERVIEW WITH THE POLICE.

Soooo.....why would she continue, continue, continue to deny THE OBVIOUS AFFAIR even to the point of going to prison for lying, even after her MURDER CHARGES HAVE BEEN DROPPED, even after Hemy's has been convicted and gone to prison? Because SHE IS AFRAID HEMY COULD TURN AROUND AND RAT HER OUT AT ANY MOMENT. That is the only logical reason I see for all this. She is afraid that if she acknowledges the affair, that will give backing to Hemy's claims if and when he decides to confess about her involvement. She is hiding it b/c she's guilty of conspiring with Hemy, and Hemy is the wild card in all this that she can't control anymore.

BBM

Ding, ding, ding... I think we have a winner! That makes sense... as much as that is possible in this whole sordid situation.

 

[Chelly]

I asked this last night....do you guys think the jury knows that Andrea might have set up the murder with Hemy?

If the jury has been closely following the evidence, they would have to be idiots not to suspect AS' involvement in the murder.

 

[lisasalinger]

If the jury has been closely following the evidence, they would have to be idiots not to suspect AS' involvement in the murder.

haha... how do you really feel?

 

[Zuri]

Another question. Why would they send video back with the jury and then require them to view it in court where they can't discuss them? Appellate issues? Is there legal precedence for this? A Georgia issue? It seems as though requiring them to view in the courtroom would be favorable to AS. Again, I am puzzled. Thanks to all of you who are so knowledgeable!

 

[Chelly]

Like others here, WS have been very slow to load for me the past few days.

 

[aa9511]

Thank you for Carolina Moon for posting the video of AS mom on the stand. One of the things that has bothered me was that they did not go to the hospital from Dunwoody Prep, let alone they went to Dunwoody Prep first.

Based on the fact that RS had sustained 5 GSW, the likelihood of his surviving for any length of time was close to Zero. I am sure he was pronounced shortly after arriving at the hospital after attempts to revive him failed. So basically, RS died "alone". His wife apparently didn't think to ask where they took her husband. Normally, the ER will keep the deceased patient in a room for the family to see until the family arrives.

I am not clear as to why an officer did not meet AS as soon as she arrived at Dunwoody Prep. They were at the crime scene. According to AS mom, their first encounter with the police happened at AS home. Am I incorrect in this?

I do not understand either how the police worked this case. From some articles I read, there seemed to be no team work or continuity. Any info on this would be appreciated. I am late to this trial and I am very puzzled. TIA

Zuri, I am like you, also late to trial and missed all of Hemy's trial. So really had no information other than reading on here, and I started watching trial a few days ago and have gone back and seen some testimony, but not all.

This morning, watching the clips of Andrea's mom that CarolinaMoon posted, was the first time I knew they went to Andrea's house after the parents got to the daycare center. I was like, WTF???? Why wouldn't they go straight to the hospital? That is soo weird. Andrea's mom said some police officer told her, but I personally think she's lying about that. I don't think anyone told them....I think they made that decision with Andrea, or maybe Andrea just told them she wanted to go home.

The mom looked like she was obviously lying for Andrea. I think they are both liars.

 

[Softail]

MikePetchenikWSB @petchenikwsb

#AndreaSneiderman jury is entering its 5th hour of deliberations. Not a peep. #WSBTV.

 

[lisasalinger]

Thank you for Carolina Moon for posting the video of AS mom on the stand. One of the things that has bothered me was that they did not go to the hospital from Dunwoody Prep, let alone they went to Dunwoody Prep first.

Based on the fact that RS had sustained 5 GSW, the likelihood of his surviving for any length of time was close to Zero. I am sure he was pronounced shortly after arriving at the hospital after attempts to revive him failed. So basically, RS died "alone". His wife apparently didn't think to ask where they took her husband. Normally, the ER will keep the deceased patient in a room for the family to see until the family arrives.

I am not clear as to why an officer did not meet AS as soon as she arrived at Dunwoody Prep. They were at the crime scene. According to AS mom, their first encounter with the police happened at AS home. Am I incorrect in this?

I do not understand either how the police worked this case. From some articles I read, there seemed to be no team work or continuity. Any info on this would be appreciated. I am late to this trial and I am very puzzled. TIA

BBM

The whole situation at Dunwoody Prep, and who said what to who is very bizarre. I still scratch my head over that. I am still not 100% as to how all of that went down.

I didn't love the investigators in this case. It doesn't change how I feel about Andrea, nor does it change the fact that she clearly hid information. But I have to say, I thought some of the police work and interrogations were lacking.

IMO

 

[Tipstaff]

I watched those clips with AS mother. She was/is fully committed to protecting her daughter even if it means perjuring herself. AS has certainly put her entire family through hell.

*Her poor children! Children always lose the most in this kind of thing. The better parent is gone and the worst remains.

After Cindy Anthony escaped prosecution for obstruction and perjury in a murder trial it seems like other can exhibit the same behavior. :drumroll:

 

[aa9511]

Another question. Why would they send video back with the jury and then require them to view it in court where they can't discuss them? Appellate issues? Is there legal precedence for this? A Georgia issue? It seems as though requiring them to view in the courtroom would be favorable to AS. Again, I am puzzled. Thanks to all of you who are so knowledgeable!

The lady commentator attorney on WAT said it's because the lawyers don't want the jury pause, rewinding a certain portion and listening to it over and over again b/c then they might take it out of context.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Hi friends :wave: ----happy to be back in my office vs. conference, but unhappy there is nothing happening!!! ACK!!!

 

[aa9511]

After Cindy Anthony escaped prosecution for obstruction and perjury in a murder trial it seems like other can exhibit the same behavior. :drumroll:

I don't think the parents should even be allowed to testify, I'm talking about any trial. Even if the jury knows the motivation of the parents, the testimony probably still affects them on some subconcious level, even if they know they're lying. The attorneys are always so careful that even one word they don't want the jury to hear should be stricken, etc., yet then they let the parents get up there and spew lies for their children, no matter what side they are on. If nothing else, it confuses the jurors so they can't see the truth clearly.

 

[Chelly]

After Cindy Anthony escaped prosecution for obstruction and perjury in a murder trial it seems like other can exhibit the same behavior. :drumroll:

Hummmmm.....You Finally back from the mani/pedi?

 

[lisasalinger]

BBM

The whole situation at Dunwoody Prep, and who said what to who is very bizarre. I still scratch my head over that. I am still not 100% as to how all of that went down.

I didn't love the investigators in this case. It doesn't change how I feel about Andrea, nor does it change the fact that she clearly hid information. But I have to say, I thought some of the police work and interrogations were lacking.

IMO

I am quoting and bolding myself, lol...

To finish my thought... the one thing that nags at me a bit, and I'm hoping does not cause an issue with the jurors, is the fact that Andrea mentions Hemy's name on Nov 19th in response to their question about if there is anyone wanting to break up their marriage.

Without rehashing the entire response, she brushes it away saying that she declined his advances and that was that. But if I were that investigator, I would have followed up on that to find out what the scoop is with this Hemy. It may have been nothing at all but isn't that why you investigate. They did drop the ball there.

Again, doesn't change how Andrea lied and hid information, and she should be culpable for that. This was the one piece of info that the defense had that I thought could be a point of discussion for the jury. The rest of their case and witnesses were crud, IMO.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Hummmmm.....You Finally back from the mani/pedi?

He he he... beauty calls!!! I have an appointment at 3:30 to get my eyelash extensions refilled, and plan to skip beach volleyball later to get a mani!!! :drumroll: