GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - #10

[Deleted member 162919]

Rewatching the video I posted tonight and i'm wondering how this person got these shots of the property and what appears to be inside the dermonds bedroom. Is this the Dermonds bedroom or did she improvise?

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

This video was posted about 7 days ago

Hockeyguy, yes, I rmember that it was mentinoed in news article somewhere that he was dragged a few feet IIRC, not like across the yard, I think I heard that video or one like it that said he was dragged as if he was dragged a long ways, I dont recall the first mention of that being such, just a few feet or less even, can't remember exact wording........somewhere I read that it could have been to position him for the beheading........idk, kinda makes sense, I did see a video that said there was a pool of dried blood too, I recall that there was very little blood or splatter in the garage from earlier reportings. This case has been so confusing, either SS is or the reporters tell it different.........

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Rewatching the video I posted tonight and i'm wondering how this person got these shots of the property and what appears to be inside the dermonds bedroom. Is this the Dermonds bedroom or did she improvise?

i dont know but the house was for sale, I wonder if it is, if they were from the internet ads or something? I dont recall any images coming out of the whole house, there may have been a few of the kitchen, wait, yes may have been from the advertisement......anyone else remeember? I remember seeing the den, DR kitchen, hallway to garage, where the neighbor entered and found him.......the deck and front of house, dont recall baths or bdrms

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

But What I wonder was discovered about the D's by the FBI investigators that SS cannot divulge to the public.......... I don't recall this do you have a link it sounds interesting and something I will reread over and over

omg! did i not post a link? crap, now to find it.........SS interview, he only said.....well the FBI found something on the d's that I cnanot divulge..... that was it............I'd never heard that before, that's what I mean, we get morsels from this man........yes I agree, time for justice for the D's!!

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Hockeyguy, here it is....... https://youtu.be/-5F3lvkQQvI

He was talking about their assets and all and said the FBI did find out something but he can't divulge it.......

He also stated here, that he has been in this Business 40 years and does not recall decapitation due to someone trying to hide evidence but did say that was a possibility............

He is simply waiting for a phone call now basically..........

 

[Steleheart]

Hockeyguy, yes, I rmember that it was mentinoed in news article somewhere that he was dragged a few feet IIRC, not like across the yard, I think I heard that video or one like it that said he was dragged as if he was dragged a long ways, I dont recall the first mention of that being such, just a few feet or less even, can't remember exact wording........somewhere I read that it could have been to position him for the beheading........idk, kinda makes sense, I did see a video that said there was a pool of dried blood too, I recall that there was very little blood or splatter in the garage from earlier reportings. This case has been so confusing, either SS is or the reporters tell it different.........

Because there was very little blood due to the Post Morten beheading there was very little blood drag - as if he was being positioned or "staged" between his cars.

Apologies I no longer have the bookmarks.

 

[Deleted member 162919]

SS is driving me crazy with these half clues i'm wondering if he is waiting for us to put the puzzle together. I would love to know what the fbi found out that they can't divulge it must be really good stuff and now they just have to wait. I hope we hear some more nuggets of information in a few weeks for the 3 year anniversary.

 

[Deleted member 162919]

I'm thinking from the beginning and I have to wonder what time the derby party was, when was the last call that they answered and when was the 1st call they didn't answer. Phone companies can tell this so I think they have a good idea of when the murders happened. They have the phone records so they must have all this info. Sills mentioned a few times Friday afternoon early Saturday morning as if he slipped up and gave us a timeline to start with. According to Sills in an early interview the last call that they answered was on Thursday

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Because there was very little blood due to the Post Morten beheading there was very little blood drag - as if he was being positioned or "staged" between his cars.

Apologies I no longer have the bookmarks.

thats the way I remember it

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Because there was very little blood due to the Post Morten beheading there was very little blood drag - as if he was being positioned or "staged" between his cars.

Apologies I no longer have the bookmarks.

Ok wait, what do you mean positioning between the cars? I was thinking positioning for the beheading....Why would they want to stage him or position him between teh cars? I get the post mortem minimal blood letting and little blood at the scene due to this. Thanks

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

SS is driving me crazy with these half clues i'm wondering if he is waiting for us to put the puzzle together. I would love to know what the fbi found out that they can't divulge it must be really good stuff and now they just have to wait. I hope we hear some more nuggets of information in a few weeks for the 3 year anniversary.

Hey hockeyguy33, SS is waiting for a phone call from someone who knows........he apparently doesnt think sharing important infor with the public is plausible, who knows what it could be that can't be divulged, but seriously it COULD/MIGHT bring something to light by someone in the public however, Yes I agree, morsels and keeping all the info under his hat, he isnt solving it so why not tell all? Must be a reason but I dont know what at this point

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

I'm thinking from the beginning and I have to wonder what time the derby party was, when was the last call that they answered and when was the 1st call they didn't answer. Phone companies can tell this so I think they have a good idea of when the murders happened. They have the phone records so they must have all this info. Sills mentioned a few times Friday afternoon early Saturday morning as if he slipped up and gave us a timeline to start with. According to Sills in an early interview the last call that they answered was on Thursday

Oh wow, Thursday, Reallly, I dont remember that! I personally think it happened Friday late evening or saturday early morning. They had to know someone would be home during either of those times and that there was a party palnned and eveyrone would be bustling aruond getting ready for the event, I personally think it was intended..by someone close to them or they wouldnt have opened the door if that's what happened..people just dont go around beheading someone for extortion gone bad do they? And taking her off down the lake to throw off investigation. This was planned IMO, of course would love to know, could be anything, Im not a desperate psychotic killer so no telling what they'll do but for now I dont think it was something suddenly and unplanned. Do you?

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

I'm thinking from the beginning and I have to wonder what time the derby party was, when was the last call that they answered and when was the 1st call they didn't answer. Phone companies can tell this so I think they have a good idea of when the murders happened. They have the phone records so they must have all this info. Sills mentioned a few times Friday afternoon early Saturday morning as if he slipped up and gave us a timeline to start with. According to Sills in an early interview the last call that they answered was on Thursday

can't recall, sometimes saturday evening I think IIRC, they werent dressed for the event yet, he was in Pj's, bed unmade I believe

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Hockeyguy33, here is this years Derby Information, I think in 2014 it was held at Goose Creek Farms on Greensboro Hwy........preview starts at 4:30........http://www.mmcgeorgia.org/events/derby-day/

Also, we haven't heard what the D's last ate, that would narrow down the time line also, From SS interviews, he keeps saying sometime between later afternoon friday to saturday sometime...Was this information not gleaned by the coroner? I dont think the sheriff would have to ask for such information. Hasn't acted as if he knows. If so would he say after Breakfast on Saturday? orAfter lunch on Friday? of course dont know how long that stays in the stomach or how long they went without food from time of eating and how long the crime occurred so could have been empty stomachs, especially if they'd just risen saturday morning and had not yet eaten.. Curious to know. He was last seen Thursday out and about

I know the investigators read these sites so they are looking for ideas as well Im sure.....why not give us all something to talk about, who knows what someone might come up with, with the correct facts.....Also might get the killer nervous and doing something odd that someone might notice......Just a thought , especially if they are still around the area

 

[Razz]

Hockeyguy33, here is this years Derby Information, I think in 2014 it was held at Goose Creek Farms on Greensboro Hwy........preview starts at 4:30........http://www.mmcgeorgia.org/events/derby-day/

Also, we haven't heard what the D's last ate, that would narrow down the time line also, From SS interviews, he keeps saying sometime between later afternoon friday to saturday sometime...Was this information not gleaned by the coroner? I dont think the sheriff would have to ask for such information. Hasn't acted as if he knows. If so would he say after Breakfast on Saturday? orAfter lunch on Friday? of course dont know how long that stays in the stomach or how long they went without food from time of eating and how long the crime occurred so could have been empty stomachs, especially if they'd just risen saturday morning and had not yet eaten.. Curious to know. He was last seen Thursday out and about

I know the investigators read these sites so they are looking for ideas as well Im sure.....why not give us all something to talk about, who knows what someone might come up with, with the correct facts.....Also might get the killer nervous and doing something odd that someone might notice......Just a thought , especially if they are still around the area

Well, there's always Foxfire's New
Umbian ( bad sp) Cult. He was adamant (and I mean adamant)
that they were involved in an attempt to embarrass SS. It didn't make sense to me but he really believed the answer was there.

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[dancinunderthemoon]

Russell was seen Friday, dont know what time.....still wonder who discovered his body

Russ, who would have turned 89 last June, was seen at the Publix grocery store near his house the Thursday of Shirley’s bridge outing. Someone also reported seeing him the next day strolling the neighborhood golf course.

Read more here: http://www.macon.com/news/local/crime/article30230859.html#storylink=cpy

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Well, there's always Foxfire's New
Umbian ( bad sp) Cult. He was adamant (and I mean adamant)
that they were involved in an attempt to embarrass SS. It didn't make sense to me but he really believed the answer was there.

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haha Razz, I still haven't ruled that out either, he was indeed very adamant.......like Henry investigating the case, don't want to be close minded.........I guess it could make sense, for now, there is NOTHING anyway, so who knows, right? They didnt take anything, these type are into beheadings, as are other cults....

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

haha Razz, I still haven't ruled that out either, he was indeed very adamant.......like Henry investigating the case, don't want to be close minded.........I guess it could make sense, for now, there is NOTHING anyway, so who knows, right? They didnt take anything, these type are into beheadings, as are other cults....

and who knows who works at the GW area, hotel and clubs.........The D's as foxfire said, would have likely opened their door any time of day for a GW worker or police/military type figure.......That'd be amazing if it is ever discovered Foxfire was right!

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Because there was very little blood due to the Post Morten beheading there was very little blood drag - as if he was being positioned or "staged" between his cars.

Apologies I no longer have the bookmarks.

Well to answer my own question....Well there was no room BEHIND the cars due to garage door being closed, some on here speculated it was done outside the garage adn he was dragged in.....Maybe hit in the head, dragged in adn beheaded inside? Or hit while in the garage and positioned for the task, definitley i think the beheading took place inside the garage........not necessarily the attack though, you think?

 

[watcher9]

i dont know but the house was for sale, I wonder if it is, if they were from the internet ads or something? I dont recall any images coming out of the whole house, there may have been a few of the kitchen, wait, yes may have been from the advertisement......anyone else remeember? I remember seeing the den, DR kitchen, hallway to garage, where the neighbor entered and found him.......the deck and front of house, dont recall baths or bdrms

How about the big room where the buckets of paint were stored, maybe in a lower level?