GA - Twin brothers miss flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains, 14 Mar 2025

if it was left at home, it would have been there all day, They didn't come back.
I understand that, but the question was "Does anyone know if they were reported missing before they were found?" So to me, if I get up at 9 and there is luggage but no boys, I'd be calling all over. But if someone called before the family normally woke up, like maybe 8, they might not have noticed it yet. That's all. How would you report someone missing if you were asleep and hadn't got up to see if there was luggage at the door, you see?

The uncle said luggage at door the night before.
"Tiger Harris: On Friday morning, yeah. So, he had to rebook for Saturday.

His bags and everything were at the door to put back in the car to go to the airport on Saturday."

I've not seen confirmation luggage at door on Saturday, though
 
I understand that, but the question was "Does anyone know if they were reported missing before they were found?" So to me, if I get up at 9 and there is luggage but no boys, I'd be calling all over. But if someone called before the family normally woke up, like maybe 8, they might not have noticed it yet. That's all. How would you report someone missing if you were asleep and hadn't got up to see if there was luggage at the door, you see?

The uncle said luggage at door the night before.
"Tiger Harris: On Friday morning, yeah. So, he had to rebook for Saturday.

His bags and everything were at the door to put back in the car to go to the airport on Saturday."

I've not seen confirmation luggage at door on Saturday, though
I dont know why I had it in my head that they were found sunday, but they were found Saturday!!!!! ok now I get your point, I'm sorry, my misunderstanding. My question about if they were called in missing is not even a factor.
I'd do the same as you, Id be calling everyone they have ever met in their life, The family may not have even had time to do that before being notified.
 
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Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, both 19, were found shot to death Saturday morning by a hiker at the summit of Bell Mountain, near the North Carolina border.

“How did they end up out in the mountains? They don’t hike out there, they’ve never been out there,” Brawner said. “They don’t know anything about Hiawassee, Georgia. They never even heard of Bell Mountain, so how did they end up right there?”

The GBI stated that their preliminary findings suggest a murder-suicide, but the family strongly disputes that conclusion.

“We knew right away that wasn’t true,” Brawner said.

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Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, both 19, were found shot to death Saturday morning by a hiker at the summit of Bell Mountain, near the North Carolina border.

“How did they end up out in the mountains? They don’t hike out there, they’ve never been out there,” Brawner said. “They don’t know anything about Hiawassee, Georgia. They never even heard of Bell Mountain, so how did they end up right there?”

The GBI stated that their preliminary findings suggest a murder-suicide, but the family strongly disputes that conclusion.

“We knew right away that wasn’t true,” Brawner said.

Seems like this could be a targeted attack, possibly a hate crime.
The mountains of North Carolina and Virginia can be a lot of that in the foothills.
Maybe someone saw these two vulnerable young men traveling alone and targeted them.
I would check to see if there are any neo nazi or white supremacy groups on radar in that area, proud boys or another group that maybe are becoming more radical. Could be a separate group that has splintered off from one of those or it could be something else I’m unsure but it seems to be definitely off.
 
This is speculation but I live in NC and am from VA so I know personally however I don’t know a lot about Bell Mountain or Georgia but it’s not far and it’s also I’m sure the same applies to a lot of those rural areas. This reaks of hate crime or possible initiation tactic of those hate groups. I think you would have to have a journalist or investigator go into that local area and talk to the locals about what they know of the neighbors and see if there is any of those groups operating and recruiting in those small areas. That’s where you will find out the real story from locals willing to talk.
 
Seems like this could be a targeted attack, possibly a hate crime.
The mountains of North Carolina and Virginia can be a lot of that in the foothills.
Maybe someone saw these two vulnerable young men traveling alone and targeted them.
I would check to see if there are any neo nazi or white supremacy groups on radar in that area, proud boys or another group that maybe are becoming more radical. Could be a separate group that has splintered off from one of those or it could be something else I’m unsure but it seems to be definitely off.

So are you saying that you think these groups are traveling to the area of the Atlanta airport and kidnapping people, bringing them 90 miles or so back to their own home county, killing them, staging a murder suicide and leaving them out in the open? Interesting that the GBI immediately ruled it a murder/suicide. Are you accusing them of being in on it and covering it up?
 
I've been following this case. I don't believe these two young men, (or at minimum one of them_, were strangers to Bell Mountain. My gut tells me this may very well be exactly what investigators said from the beginning...murder/suicide. Now for me, I'm waiting to hopefully be enlightened as to motive. I have some suspicions, but will not publicly speculate at this time.

I do hold a few other theories that lie outside the realm of murder/suicide but will not discuss publicly at this time.

I'm a 65 year old U.S. male, and have spent a lot of time up and down the east coast of the United States. I've never heard, until this thread, the words 'sundown town'.

I am not naive, and indeed, there remain to this day places where blacks may wish not to go, or may not feel welcome, and I also know, and have experienced, the same......I guarantee ya there are places in Baltimore city a white guy doesn't want to be after 'sundown'.

The accusations against all sorts of 'groups' would be much easier to believe if there were some accompanying evidence. To the contrary, and until such time GBI or other LE indicate such....I ain't buyin' it.
 
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Why did they miss the first flight? If someone in my household has a flight, everyone is awake to see them off. I would think especially so since they missed the first flight the day before. What does the sister say who lives in Chamblee? She spent the night before with them...So sad. They were so handsome and young. I'd be checking those cellphones. Something about this tragedy seems sinister. Prayers for their loved ones.
 
Why did they miss the first flight? If someone in my household has a flight, everyone is awake to see them off. I would think especially so since they missed the first flight the day before. What does the sister say who lives in Chamblee? She spent the night before with them...So sad. They were so handsome and young. I'd be checking those cellphones. Something about this tragedy seems sinister. Prayers for their loved ones.
The household had a paralyzed dad and two very young children. Maybe “bonus mom” felt overwhelmed.
 
Here's a hypothesis. If the brothers missed their flight, then maybe they decided to forget flying and instead drive to Boston. Maybe one or both had a fear of lying. According to GoogleMaps, the most direct route would have been interstates, I85 > I95. But if you wanted to take a more scenic route that goes around the whole DC area gridlock, it's only 1-2 hours longer to go through Hiawassee, then take US64 > US23 > US74 > I26 > I81 (ie, through Western NC to VA). Some other potential scenic routes, such as using I40 between TN and NC, or the Blue Ridge Parkway, etc. were, or are, still blocked by damage from Helene.

I 'm not entirely sold on either the murder/suicide conclusion or a targeted crime theory, but this could explain why they were visiting an area allegedly unfamiliar to them.
 

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ... I believe is what we are here to discuss, I feel certain that if there was anything that pointed toward a hate crime <modsnip> the GBI and federal LE would be all over it and it would be out and known to all of us as that being a possibility. We don’t know a lot at the moment, but hate crime doesn’t seem to be front and center.
Personally, I have a hard time making sense of it being a murder/suicide. I kinda lean toward the young men having some friends or acquaintances that were not that good of friends.

Just my thoughts
 
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I think it is more of a mental health situation than anything else. The GBI would NOT come out and say it was a Murder/Suicide if they didn't have the evidence to prove the allegation. I think the GBI is giving the family time to accept what has happened. I will be surprised if the GBI backtracks on the initial ruling.

JMO, IMO, and all other disclaimers.
 
The GBI ruled M/S soon enough that my assumption is that they had something very concrete to base this on. One wonders if the family has now been made aware of these facts and subsequent tox results, hence the lack of media presence at the moment. LE typically does not continue to update cases in which suicide has been ruled.
 
What would be examples of concrete factors GBI could have had that couldn't have been staged, though? I am asking as a thought exercise, because I don't think it's likely there was a third person(s) who staged the scene.

The public has not been told who owned the gun. However, I speculate it's likely LE found out that information quickly and that is one factor. But I don't know enough about determining manner of death to speculate about the rest.
 
Why did they miss the first flight? If someone in my household has a flight, everyone is awake to see them off. I would think especially so since they missed the first flight the day before. What does the sister say who lives in Chamblee? She spent the night before with them...So sad. They were so handsome and young. I'd be checking those cellphones. Something about this tragedy seems sinister. Prayers for their loved ones.
Excellent point.
 
Sounds like a long-shot (pun intended) on the part of the GBI, with only one possibly confirmed case of a murder-suicide between identical twin brothers in the last 100 years (Marcus twins, 1975), and that case is itself shrouded in uncertainty.

Impossible? No. Improbable 🤔?

This type of case is so rare it defies even niche categorization in most criminology or psychological studies. If this were a true murder-suicide, it would be statistically anomalous, making any presumption toward it without irrefutable evidence—highly questionable.
 
I'm not having a feeling of free flowing information, the family seems vague..what was the trip to Boston supposed to entail? who were they visiting and what was the goal of this trip? this is such a weird case. There doesn't seem to be an explanation or catalyst for their sudden despondency and deaths. Their phones should explain something...their actions, their lives...

a break up
job loss
opportunity loss
money loss
failure in job or schooling
turned down for promotion
victim of bullying
outed
sex assault
divorce
terminal illness
drug addiction
on going depression
mental illness
guilt

these kids did not go to Bell Mountain on a suicidal whim. I'm not buying it. Also I feel there are some secrets not being aired. Maybe those secrets have nothing to do with it, but maybe they do..
they were going to visit a family member in Boston ? they were with family just before...it's all very family with a small window allowing for these deaths and I feel that no one says we have a couple of hours, lets go to the top of Bell Mountain...what happened that morning? Honestly this makes no sense. mOO
 

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