Gene Hackman dead at 95: Iconic actor and wife, 63, are found dead with their dog at Santa Fe home.

[Sunshynn]

We definitely could use the information as to where the mudroom is, and which way his body was lying. As tho he were leaving or coming towards her. And if the mudroom door was open, plus was the bathroom window open.

I agree with this.
They have talked about where the bathroom with Betsy's body was located but have really given us no clear indication of where the mudroom is in relation to the front door and bathroom.

 

[ttjo]

Post 780 @slowpoke posted a video, has some good info in it, front and back of property where doors were located, etc.

 

[MassGuy]

Gene Hackman Items Seized During Search of Home Revealed

Several of the late Gene Hackman's items were taken during a search after the bodies of him and his wife were found in their New Mexico home ... and TMZ has obtained the full list.

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Several of the late Gene Hackman's items were taken during a search after the bodies of him and his wife were found in their New Mexico home ... and TMZ has obtained the full list.

According to police documents ... deputies who conducted the search at the home took a thyroid medication, Tylenol and Diltiazem -- a calcium-blocker used to treat high blood pressure and other heart-related issues.

Cops also took records from MyQuest -- a healthcare website used to check test results, schedule appointments and keep track of one's health history. A 2025 calendar and two cell phones were also taken.

 

[Cedars]

The caretaker also saw GH. Do you think the mudroom was further to the left?

I wouldn't stake everything on what the 911 caller said, they may have been a bit evasive in order to expedite ending the call, as I mentioned above.

 

[ClearAhead]

Sheriff was asked if front door just unlocked, or was it ajar.
He says several doors were unlocked.
Front door was closed, but unlocked.
One door was ajar, at rear of residence, where the surviving dogs were going in and out of.
He concurs there is conflicting stories about the doors—is uncertain if open before or after by emergency personnel, so it’s something they need to get an answer to.

https://www.facebook.com/SantaFeFireDepartment/posts/pfbid0D5Lb6PG8ZQo7WoyEAeNTAqjzwiBVdKzDqSryn244pNrk3cnpn57BLRWKAj3tNfLBl

The toxicology report could take up to two months but hopeful it might be sooner.

I don’t think any autopsy results including cause/manner of deaths will be forthcoming prior to that, given there was no indications of foul play (ie physical wounds).

 

[NuttMegg]

I wouldn't stake everything on what the 911 caller said, they may have been a bit evasive in order to expedite ending the call, as I mentioned above.

Agreed, but he said 2 ppl, male & female. The evasive part was to time wasting (maybe in his mind), were they moving. breathing, and what all else from the operator which made the caretaker sound exasperated.

 

[Cedars]

I agree with this.
They have talked about where the bathroom with Betsy's body was located but have really given us no clear indication of where the mudroom is in relation to the front door and bathroom.

The search warrant states that as they went through the rest of the house, they entered the kitchen and there saw legs in a room leading off the kitchen.

So, I think the mudroom is on the other side of the kitchen from the front entry bathroom.

It makes sense - a show house is designed to have the fancy/guest part of the house be in one direction (say, left of the front entry) and the comfy/family part of the house be on the other side (eg on the right).

Guests wouldn't see the mudroom, it is usually attached to the back door.

 

[Deleted member 235284]

The pills spilt near her were said to be in an orange bottle, Looking at all the ones listed the thyroid one is the only one I found that comes in an orange bottle, but thats just from a quick search looking into it, could well be wrong.

 

[NuttMegg]

The search warrant states that as they went through the rest of the house, they entered the kitchen and there saw legs in a room leading off the kitchen.

So, I think the mudroom is on the other side of the kitchen from the front entry bathroom.

It makes sense - a show house is designed to have the fancy/guest part of the house be in one direction (say, left of the front entry) and the comfy/family part of the house be on the other side (eg on the right).

Guests wouldn't see the mudroom, it is usually attached to the back door.

So there must be an adjacent external hallway from which the caretaker could see GH too.

 

[thebedbug]

I also wouldn't nitpick the 911 call. The bodies have been there for a while, it seems. Any caller was probably alarmed, scared, nervous, not 100% accurate, etc..

Far more important is what they find in the house. So far, it seems like a strange collection of facts, but it also might appear much more clear to those who've been there and have access to all of the info.

 

[Cedars]

The pills spilt near her were said to be in an orange bottle, Looking at all the ones listed the thyroid one is the only one I found that comes in an orange bottle, but thats just from a quick search looking into it, could well be wrong.

Hardly seems like medication you'd take in either an emergency or for self harm.

 

[Sunshynn]

The pills spilt near her were said to be in an orange bottle, Looking at all the ones listed the thyroid one is the only one I found that comes in an orange bottle, but thats just from a quick search looking into it, could well be wrong.

Where I am from, all prescription medication comes in orange bottles. MOO.

 

[ttjo]

Where I am from, all prescription medication comes in orange bottles. MOO.

same. It's whatever the pharmacy chooses to use. We have some that use clear, I don't think its related to the medication specifically. Most use orange ( like amber) because over time, some meds can degrade if not protected from light,

 

[slowpoke]

I agree with this.
They have talked about where the bathroom with Betsy's body was located but have really given us no clear indication of where the mudroom is in relation to the front door and bathroom.

True, not clear. But the fire chief did say “Yes, it was a very large home. It took a while to, for all of us—to locate.” [the second body]

(At around 3:10 in the video)

So, it seems the mudroom is not that close to the bathroom Betsy was in.

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Gene Hackman dead at 95: Iconic actor and wife, 63, are found dead with their dog at Santa Fe home.

 

[Deleted member 235284]

Where I am from, all prescription medication comes in orange bottles. MOO.

Yep, I did consider it might just be a kinda generic bottle. If we knew the brand would maybe tell us more or maybe not.

 

[Gemmie]

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The Santa Fe police department has confirmed a press conference will be held at 3pm on Friday

The press conference will be held at 5pm EST so people can do the math for their time zones. Also, it'll be on LE's FB page, but not everyone may be able to access if not on FB. In the event that's you, WFAA will also be streaming it live.

Officials provide update on Gene Hackman death investigation | How to watch on WFAA+

Here is an excellent tool to help folks figure out for their time zone:

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[Skigh]

The press conference will be held at 5pm EST so people can do the math for their time zones. Also, it'll be on LE's FB page, but not everyone may be able to access if not on FB. In the event that's you, WFAA will also be streaming it live.

Officials provide update on Gene Hackman death investigation | How to watch on WFAA+

Here is an excellent tool to help folks figure out for their time zone:

Dateful Time Zone Converter

Dateful Time Zone Converter converts times instantly as you type. Convert between major world cities, countries and timezones in both directions.

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10 pm in the U.K.

 

[thebedbug]

The thing I don't get - at all - is the "dog in the closet."

Maybe that description is simplified, but if this was a murder-suicide... or a natural death, then suicide... why would a dog be put in the closet to suffer a horrible death?

 

[Occam's Zebra]

The pills spilt near her were said to be in an orange bottle, Looking at all the ones listed the thyroid one is the only one I found that comes in an orange bottle, but thats just from a quick search looking into it, could well be wrong.

I have been prescribed diltiazem and it came in an orange container, as many prescription meds do. I don't think you can draw conclusions from the color of the bottle.

 

[ttjo]

I am not sure how accurate this is but it shows the inside of the house so FWIW: