General Discussion and Theories #4

[Tamarind]

I loved this post - tell it like it is!

It's an opinion and all are valid. I don't see that the post is telling it as it is IMO. It appears to me to be an opinion without any basis in fact. JMO .Can you point to the facts in the post, as I may have overlooked what hopingforjustice is trying to factually say TIA

 

[Tamarind]

I think it goes back to CM. CM learned to fly in his twenties, WM at 17 and DM at 14. WM became an exec of CM's company in his twenties and so did DM of WM's project. I think there was an expectation that the third generation of M's was going to be better, faster, stronger than any generation before.

Do you have any proof of this or any links to support the theory?

The reality though was this: DM was in a school full of professionals' kids that he had nothing in common with, including a university path. In business DM was not at all a leader - he was too young and inexperienced to earn any respect, and lacked a work ethic, and his employees like AS looked down on him as a spoiled kid. There must of been a lot of competitive spirit (rather than compassion and support) in the family for the cause of CM's legacy to be so strong. I keep thinking of WM spending $30k to eulogize CM in the paper, and how he wanted DM to uphold the family name and legend with the MRO project.

Yes AS did look down on him. I guess we shall never know the truth behind AS and his viewpoint or his work ethic at MillardAir. I don't see evidence of competitive spirit anywhere, insofar as the Millard family was/is concerned. They appear to have stayed out of the limelight for the most part. The press involved in the seal activism doesn't seem to be of their initiation and I think the solo flight of DM could well have been something that the airport got word of. I don't see anything else in the archives about the family. Do you have any links you could share? Isn't it natural for someone to hope that their offspring take over a family business?

So DM knew he had to be Mr. Big, but it wasn't happening. There was no TFS graduation ceremony. There was no convocation at university. After age 14, DM's achievements stalled, but I think the expectation was still there for him to do big things.

How do we know what was happening in the Millards family life? Where I grew up there were no graduation ceremonies or proms and I have never missed it or felt deprived. I actually feel I was spared the programming. JMO.

What ended up happening with the MRO was that everyone was told DM was doing big things, but the reality was different again. He wasn't there, he didn't work hard, he did not have the knowledge or experience, he was an impediment. Family built up a myth that DM was doing fine when he really wasn't on schedule for all the achievements his family expected of him.

Who was told? Do you have a link for this information? Or is there a link that shows proof that DM didn't work hard, or that he did not have the knowledge or experience, or that he was an impediment.? I think if statements like this are made at trial then they will be either thrown out or be expected to be verified for the jurors. JMO. I can see the defence making an objection based on hearsay or speculation.

It was easier for DM to just be a regular guy, and hang out with his buds, but he still felt that push to be Mr. Big, to create a legacy in his name. And, DM could lead his friends easily by being the most daring, by ponying up the cash to make things happen, by having the most shocking hysterical haircut. The challenges of being a leader of ordinary men is much less than that in business. All you need is a few good movie quotes and one good imitation.

Unusual haircuts do not make a murderer anymore than braids do IMO. If he was 'ponying' up the cash, then I would be looking into blackmail and other threatening behaviours against DM not by him. JMO

The crazy got fuelled by money and male friendship and a no fear, no boundaries attitude. I don't think others lead DM astray, but that others supported him in his hijinks. DM was the "watch me do this" guy. And he always tried to top his last trick.

Which tricks were these? I have been searching for details of DM's hijinks lifestyle and any no boundaries behaviours but I cant seem to find any. I would have thought that someone with his status/money would have been thrust into the spotlight had he been guilty of anything out of the norm JMO

Now you don't have to be smart to be a criminal, you just have to cross the intangible line between right and wrong. I don't think DM was an incredible thinker - after all, he wasn't into school and he sits in his jail cell fantasizing about kids' movies...but he had a tremendous amount of daring.

Kids movies??

Somehow I picture him watching that old movie MB made of a seal being skinned alive, with his buddies, drunk and stoned and howling with laughter. Can you top that DM? Can you do something even grosser than make that horror flick/"wildlife education film"? I think DM would be attracted by the gruesomeness of that film and all the physical fights and evasion of police that went with it.

Wild speculation can be almost as interesting as some alleged conspiracy theories. But DM wasn't a part of the horror video, that was MS. IIRC.

When MB and WM divorced, DM was a young teen and chose (as you legally may at age 12) to live with WM. WM was a drinker.

Did he choose or was there a joint custody in place? I'm sure at 12, there would have been a set up that involved his mother.

This means DM's household was ruled by the schedule of the bottle, with late mornings, and many many hours devoted to drinking and recovering from drinking. Don't kid yourself: drinking eats up a lot of time. WM could have been doing many other worthwhile things, but he merely insisted that DM achieve (with no pressure on himself to recover his own life). He cooked DM pasta because it is quick and easy and there are leftovers.

Did he? Or maybe he didn't know how to cook anything else ! 'schedule of the bottle' ? we don't know how much WM used to drink or when as far as I can tell.

WM didn't put his time into making the home a good environment. DM got the basics out of him. MB was absent. With no real adults in his life, DM surrounded himself with buddies and empowered the lot of them with his money.

How do you know MB was absent? She seems to be the one he has turned to during this current situation. Hardly estranged. IMO. I think he has had both parents in his life, WM was with him looking at the farm. He obviously had support ! IMO

I see DM as immature and childish and daring. He is no genius and I think this will become apparent at trial, when the mountain of evidence against him is revealed. DM never planned to get caught and undergo an investigation. All of his defenses against LE were shallow and easily defeated. LE arrested DM within days.

Who is actually a genius? Which defenses against LE are you actually referring to. I can only follow facts. I have a hard time with fantastical innuendo. Not saying that yours is of course, but I would appreciate a few links to what you are claiming, otherwise it is hard to find any basis for the reasoning. KWIM ?

I think just like any other kid with parents with substance abuse issues, he went astray due to lack of guidance, and he surrounded himself with other kids that did not have the wisdom of life, or strongly developed values or morals, rather than stable adults. I think DM got a lot of encouragement from his buddies. I think his buddies felt safe and protected because of DM's status and money, as did DM.

I think maybe these 'buddies' may have been using DM on many levels. I see no evidence of any lack of guidance for DM. He doesn't have a criminal record from all accounts unlike some of the other characters.

Every so often in Facebook I get a trite graphic that ponders how lovely the world would be if children ruled it. In reality kids have to be taught not to bully, pinch, slap, hit, name call or push or shove...the little buggers need to be civilized and taught to behave nicely. I think that's what happened to DM. He did not have the adult guidance to keep him on the right track, and he developed into a self-centred, self-important monster that was haunted by the need to build a legacy of his own.

I don't fully agree with this. I think children should be taught that it's good to be kind , caring and helpful of course. But when children are on the receiving end of a bully, I tend to favour the old school ways of dealing with bullies. It made sure they were stopped right in their tracks. Waiting it out and playing nice doesn't always work with bullies. I know from first hand experience. I don't see my view as being self-centred more from the viewpoint of self- preservation when under attack, DM does not seem to have been self - centred either judging by the generosity and sharing nature that he appears to have.

 

[Tamarind]

Surely then her charges would not stand up in court?

CN is charged with accessory after the fact to murder, and you have to do more than nothing to face that charge. She's spent months in jail, deposited $100k bail, and wears and ankle monitor. Surely it would be an abuse of power to punish her this way if all she did was answer the phone.

It's also interesting that she was not arrested for nearly a year after the crime. I don't think this was because of a lack of evidence. I think LE was watching her, and the delay to her arrest was intentional.

People have been known to have been ousted from their homes to satisfy bail conditions, only for the charges to be thrown out or stayed years later. So IMO charges do stand up in court for some time only to be thrown out at the end one way or another. I think these types of cases are abuses of power and I will agree with you there. I don't think there would be an intentional delay of 1 yr for accessory. JMO. I think it is a case of interpretation, but of what I am not sure. I guess the trial may have the answers.

 

[Juballee]

Persoanlly, I think that if it takes over a year to charge someone for something LE must have suspected from the beginning, I imagine that it was quite a stretch to find evidence that might possibly stick.

And yes, an accessory charge can be for something as simple as a phone call, this has been discussed here many times in the past, feel free to look up the old posts.

 

[Alethea Dice]

I guess we're looking at it from different angles AD. You're looking at all the reasons DM had not to be a triple murderer, and I'm looking at some clue as to what made him a triple murderer. Of course, nothings been proven in court, but I'm of the opinion that they've corralled too many rats on this case and there's either going to be some slam dunk convictions or we'll witness the biggest miscarriage of justice in Canadian history. My bets are hedged on the first.

So, if it is in fact the first, I want to know exactly what would turn a cute little boy into a manipulative killer. I can't believe that baby D was born to kill. Did he feel forced to do things that he didn't have one ounce of interest in...like go thru all the steps to get his student pilots license? Were his parents involved in his life or were they wrapped up in their own, leaving DM to be raised by a housekeeper? I see DM getting his students pilots license to feel significant with WM, MB & CM. Did he struggle in a love/hate relationship with WM and MB? Did he realize his power when got into his twenties- realizing what money could really buy you- things like women, trips, drugs, guns and lots and lots of friends? Leading me back to my initial question- "what causes someone like DM to become a murderer". MOO

Honestly, I wasn't looking at it from either of those angles and didn't realize your opinions of his achievement and whether or not he went to a cottage or was involved in sports as a youngster was in regards to what may have caused him to become a murderer. I don't see that question posed in the earlier comments. But now that you've clarified that, I personally don't see any of those particular things contributing to a child becoming a murderer. He appeared quite happy in his interview as a 14 year old and didn't come across at all as a child who was forced to do something he didn't want to do IMO.

 

[Alethea Dice]

We don't know that she knew anything about murder(s). She may well know nothing about what may or may not have happened on any given day. She may know some information now (about things we may not know) and if she was being followed and got scared, she may well have had reason to go to a lawyer. If the lawyer felt she should protect herself ( knowing how charges can be laid based on smoke without the fire) the lawyer may not have advised anything other than to sit tight. Why would a lawyer tell her to jump into the the middle of a murder investigation, that she may not know anything about other than what she was told ! JMO

How anyone can suggest that her seeking a lawyer was for selfish reasons, without having any details to go on is not something that makes sense to me JMO

There may be a perfectly good explanation for her staying silent other than invoking her right to. IMO

At this point without knowing facts about her or her case I can't feel sickened. I am very interested in hearing what comes out at the trial though.

This is a good point. If she knew nothing about what happened, and her boyfriend was just arrested, I can see her being afraid and seeking the advise of a lawyer. There would be nothing for her to report to LE if she knew nothing. But she could be sure that they would be asking her a lot of questions. She would want some advise on what to do and how to handle it.

JMO

 

[matou]

Her charges would have been thrown out by now if the evidence against CN can be explained away on her not knowing anything. A girl who was dating a murderer (Michael Rafferty) helped him clean the interior of his car after he abducted and killed Tori Stafford. She told police that and there was no charge. She didn't know anything and didn't do anything wrong or illegal based on that. In Noudga's case though.....JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

Surely then her charges would not stand up in court?

CN is charged with accessory after the fact to murder, and you have to do more than nothing to face that charge. She's spent months in jail, deposited $100k bail, and wears and ankle monitor. Surely it would be an abuse of power to punish her this way if all she did was answer the phone.

It's also interesting that she was not arrested for nearly a year after the crime. I don't think this was because of a lack of evidence. I think LE was watching her, and the delay to her arrest was intentional.

If LE are looking for someone, and that someone is with you when LE calls, and you say they are not there, you don't think that can be considered helping someone to escape arrest??? They would, however, have to prove she knew what he did, if he did, and that that was why she said he wasn't there.

JMO

 

[SnooperDuper]

If LE are looking for someone, and that someone is with you when LE calls, and you say they are not there, you don't think that can be considered helping someone to escape arrest??? They would, however, have to prove she knew what he did, if he did, and that that was why she said he wasn't there.

JMO

CN has already been judged once. She went before a judge for a bail hearing and ended up with a bail amount of $100k and the order that she remain at home if not at school or work and wear an ankle monitoring bracelet.

Would it be fair and just of the judge to order all of that if this was all about a seconds-long phone call?

 

[swedie]

We could all come up with a billion and one excuses or opinions to defend the accused, attaching them to others posts, but the reality is, there are two men sitting in jail right now because they are wicked criminals who believed in their warped minds, they were above and smarter than the law. The perps planned and deliberately stole TB's truck, murdered and incinerated TB's body to try and get rid of evidence connected to their murder, but because they botched their attempts and are thankfully stupid, they left a vast wake of evidence behind, which LE was able to gather, leading LE right to the perps. The Crown requested and the AG granted a DI based of the fact the evidence gathered by LE is solid in proving the accused are guilty, and they are confidant there will be convictions. Read em and weep below.

Those same two men have also been charged with LB's murder and a DI has also been granted. A DI request and approval is a very rare occurrence in Canada and most time than not, granted because of solid/direct evidence. IMO the majority of us who have grasped the severity of these cases, can rest assure knowing the accused and guilty will never be released from the confines of prison with a pulse. Justice will be served for the three deceased and the many victims whose lives have been forever changed by such wicked and twisted, what we hate to, but have to, refer to as humans.

It's totally disgusting and disturbing one would chose to murder their own father regardless of their reasoning. Especially when they are an adult and had the freedom to leave their parent's home if they did not approve of the parent, or what was going on in their parent's home. Greed is a vile trait and just one of the many vile traits DM apparently has.

Again, opinions don't count in the end. The truth and the facts and evidence are already set in stone and will be the deciding factor. Eleven and a half more weeks, the truth and facts will prevail and justice served.
ALL MOO.

The ministry’s decision to approve the direct indictment, a first since she became attorney general earlier this year, is a sign of a solid case gathered by prosecutors, Madeleine Meilleur told reporters after question period Wednesday.
“I’m not going to speak about the case, but when this procedure is supported, it’s because there is good evidence that the person being accused will become convicted,” she said.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...arantee_verdict_in_tim_bosma_murder_case.html

 

[Alethea Dice]

I think it goes back to CM. CM learned to fly in his twenties, WM at 17 and DM at 14. WM became an exec of CM's company in his twenties and so did DM of WM's project. I think there was an expectation that the third generation of M's was going to be better, faster, stronger than any generation before.

The reality though was this: DM was in a school full of professionals' kids that he had nothing in common with, including a university path. In business DM was not at all a leader - he was too young and inexperienced to earn any respect, and lacked a work ethic, and his employees like AS looked down on him as a spoiled kid. There must of been a lot of competitive spirit (rather than compassion and support) in the family for the cause of CM's legacy to be so strong. I keep thinking of WM spending $30k to eulogize CM in the paper, and how he wanted DM to uphold the family name and legend with the MRO project.

Then why would anyone expect the third generation to be bigger and better?

I haven't seen anything to show a lot of competitiveness in any of the three generations.

When MB and WM divorced, DM was a young teen and chose (as you legally may at age 12) to live with WM.

That's not actually true. There is no legal age that a child can just make the choice himself. If the parents can't agree, a judge decides. He may take what the child wants into consideration based on the child's age and maturity, but the judge makes the decision.

http://www.galbraithfamilylaw.com/blog/what-age-can-children-decide-which-parent-to-live-with-in-ontario/

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[Alethea Dice]

CN has already been judged once. She went before a judge for a bail hearing and ended up with a bail amount of $100k and the order that she remain at home if not at school or work and wear an ankle monitoring bracelet.

Would it be fair and just of the judge to order all of that if this was all about a seconds-long phone call?

Surely then her charges would not stand up in court?

CN is charged with accessory after the fact to murder, and you have to do more than nothing to face that charge. She's spent months in jail, deposited $100k bail, and wears and ankle monitor. Surely it would be an abuse of power to punish her this way if all she did was answer the phone.

It's also interesting that she was not arrested for nearly a year after the crime. I don't think this was because of a lack of evidence. I think LE was watching her, and the delay to her arrest was intentional.

Life isn't always fair.

I doubt they deposited the $100k. They would only have to deposit a part of it as recognizance and prove that they have the assets to be able to pay it if she breaks the conditions or doesn't appear in court.

http://www.canlaw.com/criminal/bail.htm#.VjF07rerTIU

http://lawfacts.ca/taxonomy/term/4

 

[Alethea Dice]

Her charges would have been thrown out by now if the evidence against CN can be explained away on her not knowing anything. A girl who was dating a murderer (Michael Rafferty) helped him clean the interior of his car after he abducted and killed Tori Stafford. She told police that and there was no charge. She didn't know anything and didn't do anything wrong or illegal based on that. In Noudga's case though.....JMO

I thought the two that are in jail cleaned the car on their way back? Did this person tell the police when the back seat disappeared? I seem to remember there were a lot of questions about that.

 

[Tamarind]

CN has already been judged once. She went before a judge for a bail hearing and ended up with a bail amount of $100k and the order that she remain at home if not at school or work and wear an ankle monitoring bracelet.

Would it be fair and just of the judge to order all of that if this was all about a seconds-long phone call?

It's surprising how much a single charge can be embellished to carry more weight. The trial is where it is scrutinized and laid bare for jurors ( or judge)

 

[Alethea Dice]

We could all come up with a billion and one excuses or opinions to defend the accused, attaching them to others posts, but the reality is, there are two men sitting in jail right now because they are wicked criminals who believed in their warped minds, they were above and smarter than the law. The perps planned and deliberately stole TB's truck, murdered and incinerated TB's body to try and get rid of evidence connected to their murder, but because they botched their attempts and are thankfully stupid, they left a vast wake of evidence behind, which LE was able to gather, leading LE right to the perps. The Crown requested and the AG granted a DI based of the fact the evidence gathered by LE is solid in proving the accused are guilty, and they are confidant there will be convictions. Read em and weep below.

The ministry’s decision to approve the direct indictment, a first since she became attorney general earlier this year, is a sign of a solid case gathered by prosecutors, Madeleine Meilleur told reporters after question period Wednesday.
“I’m not going to speak about the case, but when this procedure is supported, it’s because there is good evidence that the person being accused will become convicted,” she said.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...arantee_verdict_in_tim_bosma_murder_case.html

<rsbm>

We don't know the reason for the direct indictment. As per your link, the AG would not speak about the case, but only in general terms.

Dellen Millard and Mark Smich are headed straight to trial for the murder of Tim Bosma after the attorney general’s office approved a rare request for a direct indictment, but the move doesn’t mean the Crown’s office is considering their case a slam dunk, experts say.
“It’s hard to say what the Crown’s views are on the strength of its case. (The request) may be to avoid what might be viewed as a protracted and difficult preliminary inquiry hearing, as opposed to the Crown having an overwhelming case,” said Joe Di Luca, defence counsel with Di Luca Barristers in Toronto.

Reasons for the Crown’s request may be as simple as saving time and money, if the Crown is familiar with the people chosen to testify at trial, said veteran criminal lawyer Dirk Derstine, who represented Rafferty during his trial in 2012.

Di Luca said in most cases defence counsel is not asked to make submissions and is not privy to the reasons given by the attorney general for granting a direct indictment.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/07/16/immediate_trial_doesnt_guarantee_verdict_in_tim_bosma_murder_case.html

The defence lawyer complains that it only seems to be used in high profile cases and we are never told the reason why — it’s a decision made at the ministry level and no explanation is ever offered.

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/06/20/a-direct-indictment-would-be-welcome-news-for-tim-bosmas-family

Alan Young, a professor at Osgoode Hall Law School at York University, calls the direct indictment provision "a historical relic" that is rarely used and often questionable.

He says it can be used successfully in a case that has "taken years to get through the system" and the attorney general sees as needing a push to get to the trial. Particularly if there is a risk that some of the key witnesses or a victim could die before trial.

It is also used when it "would be injurious to the public interest" to hear horrible details of a crime more than is necessary, such as in the case of Paul Bernardo who in 1994 was sent directly to trial for murdering two schoolgirls.

Young also says in particularly high-profile cases, bypassing the preliminary hearing may help to ensure publication bans are not breached.

And if the case relates to other cases before the court, the Crown may have concerns about the timing of certain evidence being made public, says Young.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4590481-crown-applies-to-take-bosma-murder-case-direct-to-trial/

 

[swedie]

Persoanlly, I think that if it takes over a year to charge someone for something LE must have suspected from the beginning, I imagine that it was quite a stretch to find evidence that might possibly stick.

And yes, an accessory charge can be for something as simple as a phone call, this has been discussed here many times in the past, feel free to look up the old posts.

How does one explain a DI in LB's case?

IMO it was more than a simple phone call. TWT.

 

[Tamarind]

We could all come up with a billion and one excuses or opinions to defend the accused, attaching them to others posts, but the reality is, there are two men sitting in jail right now because they are wicked criminals who believed in their warped minds, they were above and smarter than the law. The perps planned and deliberately stole TB's truck, murdered and incinerated TB's body to try and get rid of evidence connected to their murder, but because they botched their attempts and are thankfully stupid, they left a vast wake of evidence behind, which LE was able to gather, leading LE right to the perps. The Crown requested and the AG granted a DI based of the fact the evidence gathered by LE is solid in proving the accused are guilty, and they are confidant there will be convictions. Read em and weep below.

We can all come up with a billion and one excuses to convict an accused before a fair trial too ! No-one can say that the two in jail are wicked criminals with warped minds until a fair trial has been had. IMO. No-one has any idea what was or wasn't 'planned'. There is no proof that either is stupid either until we get the facts. Repeating that the AG saw fit to bring a DI does nothing to prove absolute guilt. It has been said several times before that 'time restraints' are very often the reason for DI. Compounded by the fact that two have been in jail for going in three years. One has been isolated.. I don't believe I shall be reading and weeping based on what little is known so far. All JMO and IMHO

Those same two men have also been charged with LB's murder and a DI has also been granted. A DI request and approval is a very rare occurrence in Canada and most time than not, granted because of solid/direct evidence. IMO the majority of us who have grasped the severity of these cases, can rest assure knowing the accused and guilty will never be released from the confines of prison with a pulse. Justice will be served for the three deceased and the many victims whose lives have been forever changed by such wicked and twisted, what we hate to, but have to, refer to as humans.

Again ... there are TWO people sitting in jail fro what is now going on THREE years. That is a charter violation in the making. IMO that is why there are DI's. We can repeat and repeat that accused are sick, twisted, less than human, wicked and warped all we like. But the fact is, until there is a fair trial that is all guess work. Even then IF there was a conviction, there is no proof that said accused are sick, twisted, less than human, wicked and warped. Until we know what transpired it is easy to throw even more accusations at them, instead of trying to be rational and think from a neutral viewpoint, like jurors are expected to do before being shown any evidence or lack of. Again JMHO.

It's totally disgusting and disturbing one would chose to murder their own father regardless of their reasoning. Especially when they are an adult and had the freedom to leave their parent's home if they did not approve of the parent, or what was going on in their parent's home. Greed is a vile trait and just one of the many vile traits DM apparently has.

I know someone who murdered their own father and let me tell you, he had every right to in the circumstance. The courts also agreed. This son was not disgusting or disturbing I can assure you. It's obviously easy for people to decide about people based on their own perceptions.

In this case I do not believe for one minute that WM was killed by his son. If it was not suicide I believe he was bumped off by someone other than his son. Suicide is still a high possibility in my opinion. MOO

Again, opinions don't count in the end. The truth and the facts and evidence are already set in stone and will be the deciding factor. Eleven and a half more weeks, the truth and facts will prevail and justice served.
ALL MOO.

Opinions often do count in the court of public opinion and when accused are flogged on websites as being sick, twisted, less than human, wicked and warped, one can only hope that potential jurors are not swayed by such opinions. All MOO

The ministry’s decision to approve the direct indictment, a first since she became attorney general earlier this year, is a sign of a solid case gathered by prosecutors, Madeleine Meilleur told reporters after question period Wednesday.
“I’m not going to speak about the case, but when this procedure is supported, it’s because there is good evidence that the person being accused will

She has to say that. She cant say otherwise if they are out to get a conviction IMHO.

 

[swedie]

If LE are looking for someone, and that someone is with you when LE calls, and you say they are not there, you don't think that can be considered helping someone to escape arrest??? They would, however, have to prove she knew what he did, if he did, and that that was why she said he wasn't there.

JMO

Pretty good indication in this statement. Or are we to believe TL is just pulling this out of thin air? MOO.

Police allege Noudga knew Millard had killed Bosma and assisted in his “escape” last May 9, three days after Bosma disappeared, said Crown Attorney Tony Leitch.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...e_she_was_reported_missing_police_allege.html

 

[Tamarind]

Pretty good indication in this statement. Or are we to believe TL is just pulling this out of thin air? MOO.

Police allege Noudga knew Millard had killed Bosma and assisted in his &#8220;escape&#8221; last May 9, three days after Bosma disappeared, said Crown Attorney Tony Leitch.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...e_she_was_reported_missing_police_allege.html

I think the key word is allege the word immediately before the words that were bolded in the post. JMO

 

[swedie]

<rsbm>

We don't know the reason for the direct indictment. As per your link, the AG would not speak about the case, but only in general terms.







http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/07/16/immediate_trial_doesnt_guarantee_verdict_in_tim_bosma_murder_case.html



http://www.torontosun.com/2014/06/20/a-direct-indictment-would-be-welcome-news-for-tim-bosmas-family



http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4590481-crown-applies-to-take-bosma-murder-case-direct-to-trial/

Informative video.

Respectfully Alethea, of course the AG is not going to speak specifically about this case. Was anyone expecting her to? That would totally go against the rules and laws regarding the publication ban and then some. Most people can grasp the message without the specifics. As she said, "the provision is there IF a solid cases...." Obviously, it's a solid case or there would not have been a DI, just as it was in PB and MR's cases, and btw both were found guilty with overwhelming, solid, evidence. Based on the AG's ruling, she inspected all the evidence, she knows the Crown has a solid case against the defendant(s) and the person(s) being accused will be convicted.

Ontario Attorney General, Madeleine Meilleur: &#8220;The provision is there if there is a solid case and justice will be better served by going directly to trial.&#8221;

Attorney General Madeleine Meilleur approved the decision to skip a preliminary hearing, suggesting the evidence will support the decision.

AG Meilleur: &#8220;When this procedure is supported, it&#8217;s because there is good evidence that the person that is accused will be convicted.&#8221;

Dean Paquette: &#8220;This isn&#8217;t the kind of case that ordering a preliminary hearing advantages the defence as much. It&#8217;s largely what the police find, where they find it, DNA, evidence that relates to the discovery of incriminating materials that will be used by the prosecution. It&#8217;s not witness testimony where the cross examination of those witnesses will be critical.&#8221;

Paquette says the defence can argue the direct indictment hurts their case in court. But he says the disadvantage is probably very slight and the Crown and Attorney General feel it&#8217;s outweighed by the public interest in seeing the trial take place.

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