General Discussion Thread No. 16

[gord]

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Agree they should be charged & made accountable for their actions. They should first be charged with child neglect then they & all the Tapas 9 interrogated until they get their stories straight!

I think this is a murder investigation. Any child neglect charges if they happen will be a completely seperate thing and ould in my opinion be pointless -

Lets assume that Maddy was abducted - do you think that that the Mccanns will not go through the rest of their life eaten by guilt ? KM has already said live on TV that they are filled with remorse and guilt about leaving the children alone - just becasuse we dont see them breaking down on TV on a daily basis does not mean that they are grieving

What should the rest of Tapas 9 be charged with ?

 

[SleuthMom]

The McCanns need to be charged for OBSTRUCTION because they hired detectives to find their daughter? Weren't the McCanns being criticized, right on this board, for not doing enough to find their daughter? Can you please explain the rationale behind wanting them charged for trying to find thie child? Thanks.

I think they are speaking IF the Mc Canns are guilty of murdering their daughter, hence why they would hire a company knowing their daughter is dead?

Personally (and I love to give the benefit of the doubt to people) I would have hire the company myself IF I WAS INNOCENT. Even if it was illegal. BUT if then they catch me doing it and I knew it was illegal, I would have to pay for it because that's against the law over there.

Now, IF I WAS GUILTY. Burn me in hell...I just could not comprehend such evil mind.

 

[Barnaby]

I think this is a murder investigation. Any child neglect charges if they happen will be a completely seperate thing and ould in my opinion be pointless -

Lets assume that Maddy was abducted - do you think that that the Mccanns will not go through the rest of their life eaten by guilt ? KM has already said live on TV that they are filled with remorse and guilt about leaving the children alone - just becasuse we dont see them breaking down on TV on a daily basis does not mean that they are grieving

What should the rest of Tapas 9 be charged with ?

I didnt say the tapas 9 should be charged with anything, read the post, I said they should be interrogated until they get their stories straight! So far there have been lies & inconsistencies!

Why should they not be charged with neglecting a little girl who suffered because of it? If they didn't do it then she probably suffered or is suffering a lot more than an accidental overdose would cause her!

Kate McCann has never come across as truly repentant for leaving her kid & noone will convince me that they are grieving. If they are then I nominate them for the VERY BEST ACTORS EVER BORN Oscar!

 

[SleuthMom]

I think this is a murder investigation. Any child neglect charges if they happen will be a completely seperate thing and ould in my opinion be pointless -

Pointless? If it is a murder investigation they should be charged for every crime they have committed. Period.

Lets assume that Maddy was abducted - do you think that that the Mccanns will not go through the rest of their life eaten by guilt ?

Not necessarily. Did they feel guilty knowing the previous nights Maddie was shouting and calling her Daddy in the middle of the night? No, they left her AGAIN. Guilt? VERY debatable.

 

[colomom]

Good morning all....

I just wanted to make you all aware of a really nice creation that L L & S has posted in our pictures thread. You can find it here:

http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1698594&postcount=39

I thought it was really special and I wanted to make sure that you all saw it.

God Bless Madeleine!

 

[gord]

Pointless? If it is a murder investigation they should be charged for every crime they have committed. Period.

Not necessarily. Did they feel guilty knowing the previous nights Maddie was shouting and calling her Daddy in the middle of the night? No, they left her AGAIN. Guilt? VERY debatable.

please - you cannot know what they are thinking & going through 24 / 7 . They have already publicly stated that they feel huge guilt for leaving the kids alone - both on TV and on print -

If the Mccaans are to be charged for child neglect then that will be a seperate charge - after the murder charge has been solved either way . It would be a bit silly to go down a child neglect charge when they are about to be charged with murder - I mean murder is a bit on the neglect side of things ??

Also I am not 100% sure if leaving the kids as they did breaks any portoguese law . I personally thought it was very wrong to leave them as they did - but there might not be a law against that .

 

[Rino]

I think this is a murder investigation. Any child neglect charges if they happen will be a completely seperate thing and ould in my opinion be pointless -

They have the twins

Lets assume that Maddy was abducted - do you think that that the Mccanns will not go through the rest of their life eaten by guilt ? KM has already said live on TV that they are filled with remorse and guilt about leaving the children alone - just becasuse we dont see them breaking down on TV on a daily basis does not mean that they are grieving

Yeah, but she took it back, too. Why do people who defend the McCanns always tell us we could not poosibly know how they feel only to tell us how they feel?

What should the rest of Tapas 9 be charged with ?

Obstruction to begin with is one possibility

 

[AfterMidnight]

McCanns are damned if they do, double damned if they don't, and by God they will pay for something for making people feel uncomfortable.

I read a blog yesterday, sorry no url, but it said the McCanns were being used as cheap entertainment. I have to agree. Where else can so many people get so much pleasure finding fault with someone else?

 

[gord]

They have the twins

The british social services have already visited the Mccaans and if they felt that the twins were at risk then they would have stepped in . As I said in another thread - I think the Murder case might superscede any child neglect charges - I am again not 100% convinced that they broke any local laws anyway . Moraly I think they were wrong to leave the kids but I am not sure it has broken a law


Yeah, but she took it back, too. Why do people who defend the McCanns always tell us we could not poosibly know how they feel only to tell us how they feel?

Ok neither of us know how they feel -


Obstruction to begin with is one possibility

are you just making things up as you go along - obstruction ? They were all interviewed - they all made themselves available at the time and are all free people to come and go -

 

[colomom]

are you just making things up as you go along - obstruction ? They were all interviewed - they all made themselves available at the time and are all free people to come and go -

Curious Gord...where did you read that they were all interviewed?

I saw reports that Rachel Oldfield, Russell O'Brien and Fiona Payne were interviewed and it was primarily a chance for the PJ to observe their interactions with Robert Murat.

 

[gord]

Curious Gord...where did you read that they were all interviewed?

I saw reports that Rachel Oldfield, Russell O'Brien and Fiona Payne were interviewed and it was primarily a chance for the PJ to observe their interactions with Robert Murat.

I can probably find it somewhere - but think about it they were all alibis for each other so of course the police would have to interview them all in order to establish the time lines and of course the alibis .

There would be detailed reports from them all - I would be absolutley shocked if the police didnt interview them - it would be the first thing they did .

 

[Rino]

Originally Posted by gord
are you just making things up as you go along - obstruction ? -

No.....

think about it they were all alibis for each other so of course the police would have to interview them all in order to establish the time lines and of course the alibis

Are you?

 

[gord]

No.....



Are you?

just be sure what you are saying . Are you saying that the rest of Tapas 9 were not interviewed by the police and actualy obstructed the case by refusing to ?

Just trying to clear what you mean by obstruction

 

[SleuthMom]

please - you cannot know what they are thinking & going through 24 / 7 . They have already publicly stated that they feel huge guilt for leaving the kids alone - both on TV and on print -

That's why I said it is debatable.

 

[SleuthMom]

Where else can so many people get so much pleasure finding fault with someone else?

Pleasure??? Are you a mom/dad???

 

[SleuthMom]

I would love a link where it states that ALL the tapas friends were interviewed. I also want to assume they were (again, common sense) but nothing surprises me again if they haven't.

 

[gord]

That's why I said it is debatable.

ok I agree no-one but those who are absolute close tio them can really now what they are going through on a 24/7 basis .

they dont look like life is hunk dory though I would imagine there isnt a day that goes by that they regret what happened with the babysitting

 

[SleuthMom]

they dont look like life is hunk dory though I would imagine there isnt a day that goes by that they regret what happened with the babysitting

I have learned (some through very close experiences) that in this world we have great actors and actresses.

 

[wtsn5]

I would love a link where it states that ALL the tapas friends were interviewed. I also want to assume they were (again, common sense) but nothing surprises me again if they haven't.

If the police failed to interview all the tapas 9 group that night / next day - then I have to question what else they didn't do. Also then it leads me to wonder what inconsistancies the PL are holding against the McCanns if they didn't get everyones statements. I also don't just mean the Tapas 9 group everyone working at the bars, restaurants, creche, front desk, the whole Mark Werner Resort and that would include all the guests as well. Everyone should have been interviewed IMO.

I think most assume that all the friends and employees were interview - but again because of the secrecy laws in Portugal we really don't know. In fact we don't have alot of hard core facts "proven" (Stated by the police) on this case. We also don't know if the McCanns asked to be made Arguidos (sp) or not. Nothing on this case is simple.

 

[Rino]

Madeleine: Sniffer dogs 'found scent of death' on one of the McCanns' friends http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...tml?in_article_id=483881&in_page_id=1811&ct=5

They were interviewed, ....


According to reports from Portugal, all of those dining with the McCanns that night face further police questioning because their accounts of the night's events allegedly clashed.