General Discussion Thread No. 18

[SleuthMom]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nmaddy225.xml

Madeleine McCann: First drawing of 'abductor'


What happened the blanket?

It was lost in the many versions of the abductor of Mrs. Tanner.

 

[gord]

It was lost in the many versions of the abductor of Mrs. Tanner.

I thought we had established that Tanner gave her statement to the police and has then said nothing - she has not said a single word in public about the case

I dont know where you get the impression she has given many versions of the description - to whom ?

I have heard the Mcaans talk about it and have seen many reports by the press - but nothing from Tanner

 

[Barnaby]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...cle3099614.ece

McCann family reverse story over break-in 'evidence

 

[Rino]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...cle3099614.ece

McCann family reverse story over break-in 'evidence

"Nobody feels more guilty than Gerry and Kate over the decision they took jointly to leave their children in that position that night. And they will never forgive themselves. They've said this often.


"Nobody feels more guilty than they that Madeleine was alone when she was taken. However, they felt they had a perfectly proper system of checking (her in place)."

I just never feel comfortable with what they, or he says for them.

"They made" already implys "jointly", too defensive.

She was not alone, the twins could have been taken, too - :doh:

 

[hcc2007]

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/...k+on+Kate+McCann's+'fake'+TV+tears/article.do

"Correio da Manha also claims that Gerry's warning to Kate to wait until the microphone was switched off before saying anything was a clear indication that the interview had been carefully stage-managed."

Perhaps this article will offer some insight into why so many felt suspicious.

Actually, if I were the McCanns and I were innocent, I'd borrow a page from Bill Clinton's interview with Chris Wallace of Fox News. The righteous indignation of the innocent can be something to behold!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaNIBFSMjb8

Human's are strange creatures, and while a certain amount of submissiveness is good, being TOO submissive can make you look more guilty than if you stood up for yourself. I think the time has come, for the McCanns, to tell the media to "f off, we'll find our own daughter thank you very much." I mean, it's just a blood festival at this point.

 

[Jade]

I so want Kate and Gerry to be innocent of wrongdoing but something bothers me. In the headlines of the interview it says Kate breaks down and weeps. I have looked closely again and I am not sure I see a single tear. When I first saw it with the audio it sounded like she was distraught and crying but even though her eyes look kind of wet no tears roll down the cheeks of either. I have watched without the audio and it is even less like breaking down.

This has been brought up in other cases when someone makes all the motions of crying but no tears and certainly not the constant flood you would expect.

I am in no way criticizing them for a stoic demeanor or for looking on the bright side.

Please someone correct me and prove me wrong about what I fear is a bit of acting.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=WB4WLHJFQKGLHQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/10/25/nmaddy125.xml

 

[SleuthMom]

Nobody feels more guilty than they that Madeleine was alone when she was taken. However, they felt they had a perfectly proper system of checking (her in place)."

This is one of their statements that make no sense to me. They feel guilty because they were not there when she was taken (carefully choice of words) Interesting.

 

[Barnaby]

[/b]This is one of their statements that make no sense to me. They feel guilty because they were not there when she was taken (carefully choice of words) Interesting.

I have always thought that choice of words interesting but then they have said many things that are either ambiguous or plain avoidance that nothing surprises me.

 

[colomom]

http://forum.football365.com/index.php?t=msg&th=418740&prevloaded=1&&start=0

Some very creative people having some fun with the picture of Bundleman.

**Warning, might offend some**

 

[colomom]

I so want Kate and Gerry to be innocent of wrongdoing but something bothers me. In the headlines of the interview it says Kate breaks down and weeps. I have looked closely again and I am not sure I see a single tear. When I first saw it with the audio it sounded like she was distraught and crying but even though her eyes look kind of wet no tears roll down the cheeks of either. I have watched without the audio and it is even less like breaking down.

This has been brought up in other cases when someone makes all the motions of crying but no tears and certainly not the constant flood you would expect.

I am in no way criticizing them for a stoic demeanor or for looking on the bright side.

Please someone correct me and prove me wrong about what I fear is a bit of acting.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=WB4WLHJFQKGLHQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/10/25/nmaddy125.xml

I noticed too Jade. I tried to see a tear, even one welling up in her eye.....nothing.

Lots of "tsk" sounds and big sighs. It just feels like too little, too late, at least it does to me.

I'm sorry but, these people scare me.

 

[Barnaby]

I noticed too Jade. I tried to see a tear, even one welling up in her eye.....nothing.

Lots of "tsk" sounds and big sighs. It just feels like too little, too late, at least it does to me.

I'm sorry but, these people scare me.

They scare me too, Colomom!

 

[colomom]

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-more-witness-contradicts-jane.html

One more witness contradicts Jane Tanner statement

Why am I not suprised?

 

[dingo]

Why didn't she?

Because she worded it another way, thats why the English language is so complex otherwise we'd all use the same words and end up all sounding the same.

No matter what Kate says or does, it won't be right because she made a poor parenting decision.

A very very poor parenting decision .

 

[Barnaby]

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-more-witness-contradicts-jane.html

One more witness contradicts Jane Tanner statement

Why am I not suprised?

I think anyone who remotely thought that she might have been telling the truth should be sure now that she was not after the release of that farcical drawing!

 

[Texana]

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-more-witness-contradicts-jane.html

One more witness contradicts Jane Tanner statement

Why am I not suprised?

So the only person who reportedly saw "the bundleman" is Jane Tanner, who is not an objective witness because of her relationship to the McCanns and the other Tapas 9.

 

[Pinkhammer]

Jane Tanner's statement is worthless.

Funny how bundleman has morphed from an eggheaded Murat lookalike to a suave Iberian tango dancer, at the hands of Clarence Mitchell.

The new bundleman should be on "Dancing With the Stars", partnered with Marie Osmond.

 

[gord]

Jane Tanner's statement is worthless.

Funny how bundleman has morphed from an eggheaded Murat lookalike to a suave Iberian tango dancer, at the hands of Clarence Mitchell.

The new bundleman should be on "Dancing With the Stars", partnered with Marie Osmond.

big big call to disregard her statement - she has said nothing since her first statement to the PJ - no interviews nothing

If I was in charge I would give her statement some merit - until proved otherwise

there is also the othet witness who also saw a man with a child - should we disregard his staement as well

 

[colomom]

big big call to disregard her statement - she has said nothing since her first statement to the PJ - no interviews nothing

If I was in charge I would give her statement some merit - until proved otherwise

there is also the othet witness who also saw a man with a child - should we disregard his staement as well

http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1761454&postcount=172

What about her statement Gord?

I have an idea....let's disregard everyone's statements and all go home! I'll meet you back here after the verdict is read.

Somehow I don't think it will happen.

 

[Tuba]

The other man was Martin Smith. He and his wife saw a man carrying a child also. The man was wearing beige slacks and was 5'7" with dark short hair. He was walking along side the church. Smith went back to Ireland but returned to Portugal to clear up the misstatement about Murat. He knew that the bundleman was not Murat because he knew who Murat was but he never said Murat had been drinking in the bar that night.

 

[Barnaby]

big big call to disregard her statement - she has said nothing since her first statement to the PJ - no interviews nothing

If I was in charge I would give her statement some merit - until proved otherwise

there is also the othet witness who also saw a man with a child - should we disregard his staement as well

& should we disregard this one also?
http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.bl...icts-jane.html

One more witness contradicts Jane Tanner statement