General Theories and Motives Rehashed #1

[Indiana at Heart]

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

If you choose to minimize it and believe that no arrest means no activity, I will not attempt to sway you.

I believe much differently, and base that upon the recidivism of his past, as well as his current predicament.

 

[suspicious1]

I look at the big picture too and I don't believe that RCs abused Crystal. If he had, just like so many other women who are vying for custody of their children that would have been the first words out of Crystal's mouth to the Judge and she never even mentioned it until the media started giving her attention. And well...I wouldn't believe what a Croslin has to say if I saw their tongues being notarized for myself.

I look at this very logically without all the fanfare.

No one has come out and said that RCs wasnt at work during his entire shift that day. LE would not say they are satisfied with his work alibi if he had left for any reason. Therefore it is very logical that he DID work his entire shift. He even ate there. It just fits with all the sightings of Haleigh before Ron went to work and the witnesses who saw Haleigh after he went to work.

It is very reasonable to believe that a bridge building company would have several surveillance cameras set up for security. I worked for a large bridge building company for over 20 years and even way back in the 90s we had security cameras set up all over the yard.

I beg to differ........Ron Cummings verified alibi will never be irrelevant in Haleigh's case.

IMO

If something happened to Haleigh BEFORE Ron went to work, IMO, what difference does it make that he went to work and worked his entire shift? If you think like a criminal...and he knew he needed an alibi.....what better alibi than "work". He knew that could be verified. Ron is not stupid...he has a criminal mind, for sure. But IMO although "work" was his alibi....those 90+calls tells me he was still trying to control the situation. He knew he couldn't leave, so his only communication was by phone. Think about WHO said they saw Haleigh after Ron went to work....She's not credbile, IMO.

 

[tlcya]

I think RC has been dabbling with drug involvement nonstop since he was with crystal. I don't think he had an epiphany and suddenly cleaned up his act once he got custody, but rather, was more discreet in his usage/sale of illicit drugs.

I also agree with the posters who feel if RC had not been at work for his entire shift that night we would have heard by now. Therefore, I accept that he was.

I think RC is like a lot of men in my own neighborhood. Hustlers, manual laborers, roughneck, braggarts, hard drinkin, hard talkin guys. They engage in criminal activites, use drugs, curse, and are not at all Ward Cleaver. That said, they love their kids with a ferocity. They don't hang out in the backyard of an evening tossing the old baseball around with them, they aren't THAT kind of father. But let anyone lay a hair on the head of one of their kids . . . justice is swift, and not achieved through LE or the court system if you follow. SO I feel like I kinda get who RC is.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If you choose to minimize it and believe that no arrest means no activity, I will not attempt to sway you.

I believe much differently, and base that upon the recidivism of his past, as well as his current predicament.

I am not trying to minimize anything debs.

I was just trying to determine the recidivism rate once he got custody of his children........up until his arrest 5 months ago.

imo

 

[suspicious1]

Thank you.

So that was in September and he got custody in December of the same year?

No arrest since then except those he got way after Haleigh went missing?
IMO

How many does he need?

 

[Emeralgem]

I beg to differ........Ron Cummings verified alibi will never be irrelevant in Haleigh's case.

IMO

Snipped...
BBM... Not necessarily so.. LE stated at one point they did not know WHAT crime had been committed, WHERE or WHEN... They have now stated this case is a homicide so as I see it they are now dealing with WHERE and WHEN the crime occurred ..And most importantly.. WHO JMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If something happened to Haleigh BEFORE Ron went to work, IMO, what difference does it make that he went to work and worked his entire shift? If you think like a criminal...and he knew he needed an alibi.....what better alibi than "work". He knew that could be verified. Ron is not stupid...he has a criminal mind, for sure. But IMO although "work" was his alibi....those 90+calls tells me he was still trying to control the situation. He knew he couldn't leave, so his only communication was by phone. Think about WHO said they saw Haleigh after Ron went to work....She's not credible, IMO.

I think those 90 calls have been blown out of proportion just like a lot of things in the case. It started out as around 20 and now has morphed into 90. lol

There is no proof that Haleigh was dead before Ron went to work. None. People saw her alive and well and they also saw her after her daddy had gone to work.

imo

 

[debs]

Name one person not related to Ron or Misty who can say they saw Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings after school.

 

[suspicious1]

I think RC has been dabbling with drug involvement nonstop since he was with crystal. I don't think he had an epiphany and suddenly cleaned up his act once he got custody, but rather, was more discreet in his usage/sale of illicit drugs.

I also agree with the posters who feel if RC had not been at work for his entire shift that night we would have heard by now. Therefore, I accept that he was.

I think RC is like a lot of men in my own neighborhood. Hustlers, manual laborers, roughneck, braggarts, hard drinkin, hard talkin guys. They engage in criminal activites, use drugs, curse, and are not at all Ward Cleaver. That said, they love their kids with a ferocity. They don't hang out in the backyard of an evening tossing the old baseball around with them, they aren't THAT kind of father. But let anyone lay a hair on the head of one of their kids . . . justice is swift, and not achieved through LE or the court system if you follow. SO I feel like I kinda get who RC is.

Do we live in the same neighborhood?? LOL

I "read" Ron a long time ago...He is so transparent to those of us who is surrounded by these types of guys on a regular basis. That why I think that if Misty and her family actually had something to do with this and Ron was totally innocent...Ron would've went to war with them...Literally. But he didn't.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Snipped...
BBM... Not necessarily so.. LE stated at one point they did not know WHAT crime had been committed, WHERE or WHEN... They have now stated this case is a homicide so as I see it they are now dealing with WHERE and WHEN the crime occurred ..And most importantly.. WHO JMO

Oh LE stated that when the case was first unfolding. They have a very good idea based on their investigation and interviewing witnesses between what hours the crime occurred imo. I believe I read something being mention that the time line is 7pm until 3 pm.

I think they already know the approximate "when" but I am not sure they are any closer to finding out who did it though. Hardy has already stated he believes Haleigh was murdered in the area of the boat ramp.

IMO

 

[tlcya]

Just an FYI and OT but when I am trying to reach my hubby and he is not answering (read - ingoring) his cel, I will call repeatedly. I lose it. There is nothing that pizzes me off more than to be purposefully ignored by DH. I find it highly disrespectful and I will call him 10 15 times until the jerk answers. Immature, I know, but that's just me and DH's dynamic.

So I am not sure what I think about all those unanswered phone calls from RC to MC. Could mean a lot, could just be normal for them when fighting. Before I give special significance to that evening's cel activity, I would like to know about 6 months worth of cel phone activity to see if repeated calls were a regular thing that ocurred when one couldn't reach the other or that evening was unusual in all those calls.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Name one person not related to Ron or Misty who can say they saw Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings after school.

Not everyone is a media hound. I am sure others were there at the bus stop when Haleigh was picked up that day.

As long as LE knows who these persons are and I believe they do then that is really all that matters.

IMOO

 

[Emeralgem]

I think those 90 calls have been blown out of proportion just like a lot of things in the case. It started out as around 20 and now has morphed into 90. lol

There is no proof that Haleigh was dead before Ron went to work. None. People saw her alive and well and they also saw her after her daddy had gone to work.
imo

Lets just forget anything Misy has claimed in regards to the events of that night.....IMHO the ONLY other person who claimed they saw her alive and well eating dinner on the porch is NOT a reliable source...
And IF LE hasn't come to that realization, that explains WHY this case has not been solved...JMO

 

[suspicious1]

I think those 90 calls have been blown out of proportion just like a lot of things in the case. It started out as around 20 and now has morphed into 90. lol

There is no proof that Haleigh was dead before Ron went to work. None. People saw her alive and well and they also saw her after her daddy had gone to work.

imo

BBM

Who????

 

[Emeralgem]

Oh LE stated that when the case was first unfolding. They have a very good idea based on their investigation and interviewing witnesses between what hours the crime occurred imo. I believe I read something being mention that the time line is 7pm until 3 pm.

I think they already know the approximate "when" but I am not sure they are any closer to finding out who did it though. Hardy has already stated he believes Haleigh was murdered in the area of the boat ramp.IMO

BBM..Me too... At Misty's parent's house or in the vicinity...Ron C did it....JMO

 

[Lanie]

Name one person not related to Ron or Misty who can say they saw Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings after school.

What did the A/C guy say? Didn't Misty say she was outside with the kids and maybe with Tommy and his kids when the A/C guy was there?

 

[suspicious1]

Just an FYI and OT but when I am trying to reach my hubby and he is not answering (read - ingoring) his cel, I will call repeatedly. I lose it. There is nothing that pizzes me off more than to be purposefully ignored by DH. I find it highly disrespectful and I will call him 10 15 times until the jerk answers. Immature, I know, but that's just me and DH's dynamic.
So I am not sure what I think about all those unanswered phone calls from RC to MC. Could mean a lot, could just be normal for them when fighting. Before I give special significance to that evening's cel activity, I would like to know about 6 months worth of cel phone activity to see if repeated calls were a regular thing that ocurred when one couldn't reach the other or that evening was unusual in all those calls.

BBM

Tlcox, you are hilarious. I do the same thing! But I can tell you this- when my calls go unanswered and then he all of a sudden wants to call me back...I'm quick to pick up the phone so I can cuss him out for not answering my calls.:furious:

 

[Emeralgem]

What did the A/C guy say? Didn't Misty say she was outside with the kids and maybe with Tommy and his kids when the A/C guy was there?

To my knowledge no one knows what information the A/C guy gave in regards to seeing Haleigh...JMO

 

[debs]

Just an FYI and OT but when I am trying to reach my hubby and he is not answering (read - ingoring) his cel, I will call repeatedly. I lose it. There is nothing that pizzes me off more than to be purposefully ignored by DH. I find it highly disrespectful and I will call him 10 15 times until the jerk answers. Immature, I know, but that's just me and DH's dynamic.

So I am not sure what I think about all those unanswered phone calls from RC to MC. Could mean a lot, could just be normal for them when fighting. Before I give special significance to that evening's cel activity, I would like to know about 6 months worth of cel phone activity to see if repeated calls were a regular thing that ocurred when one couldn't reach the other or that evening was unusual in all those calls.

I just find it hard to buy into the whole story of the pastoral scene of daddy driving up to the house with baby girl on his lap, steering the car, jumping out and kissing everyone in the family before having to leave for work, then having daddy making repeated (fill in the number) calls, only to have the phone not answered, and not panicking and going home even just on a break or lunch, to make sure everything is okay.

And then to just say "well, heck. I'll stop at the Kangaroo on the way home and grab some beer, cuz I'm sure everything's hunky dory" even knowing the person who is watching your children has been doing drugs for the past (pick an amount) days.

Then add in the number of different ways that we have of Ron arriving home and how the information was conveyed that Haleigh is missing, add onto that the rapid driving of his mother to get there, spend a little time wondering why all these people were at the Croslin house down the street, but not one Croslin was up at Green Lane to help Misty, throw in an inquiry about where was Jr, and pretty soon you have a pea soup fog of illogical information which says that something very significant happened at 202 Green Lane and someone radiating no more than one degree away from Haleigh knows.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I just posted these questions in the 'question thread'. But, I thought since we were talking about the phones I would bring it here too:

WHO was paying for MC's cell phone? I betcha it was a "disposable" - I say that because no one in this circus makes enough to pay for a "plan" or contract. LC and HC don't have cells right now (at least I don't think so - and if they do they are probably disposables too, all the talk about "needing minutes").

There is only ONE phone number listed on the LE report. Probably RC's cell. I don't think TN or ggms would pay to "add MC" to their plans. Maybe RC - but its still money and just paying for "minutes" is cheaper and a better way to "stay in control" of someone - KWIM?

So, I'm thinknig MC's phone was "kinda like the lost 'blackjack' " and has not resurfaced. Again, WHO was paying for MC's cell, did LE do a forensic investigation of THAT phone, did LE even FIND THAT phone, WHY were there not TWO phone numbers listed on that LE report (both MC and RC should have had each of their phones in their respective hands - calling 911, calling TN, etc).