General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[dodie20]

some of what we know...Misty & Ron had a fight, which led to her binger. There was a fight, involving Joe, at some point, over a gun. Ron was seen reckless driving, that morning, away from the bus stop. Misty was seen picking Haleigh up from the bus stop, arguing with Lindsey, although Ron swears, he picked her up. Ron went to work. Annette Sykes claims to have seen a live Haleigh. There were many calls, between Ron & Misty. There was at least 1 call, between Ron & Tommy-with Tommy, according to sources, taking that call from his parent's home. Tommy claimed to have gone to the trailer, on Ron's behalf, but found it dark & empty. He semi recanted that story. A scream was heard from the trailer. Misty, was seen outside, crying on the phone. Jr., via his mother, claims to have seen a man in black, with squeaky shoes, take Haleigh from her bed. He claims to have seen the couch bouncing. There were several hits, on the dumpster. Misty has failed her lie tests. Tommy failed 1, but claims he was only asked 1 question. Tommy, with help from Misty, accused Joe of murdering Haleigh. Misty, I do believe, has recanted that claim, but Tommy, via his lawyer, is sticking to it. According to sources, Misty has told LE, that Tommy has the answers, but Chelsea has denied that this conversation ever took place. Ron has struck a truth telling deal.

I think the answer may lay somewhere, in all of this. The problem? for every story, there's a counter story. For instance...(Ron & Misty's fight). Nay Nay said that Ron & Misty fought over her claiming to be pregnant, but Chelsea claimed that Ron wanted to have a baby with Misty. lordy, lol, it's a good thing they dodged that bullet. I never really bought the pregnancy story. It was too convoluted, (Misty using a pregnant girl's test results? please...), & too extreme. which version to believe...(the fight with Joe over a gun). Ron denied the fight for a long time, but finally fessed up, as part of his deal. But, who's version do we go with? Ron's account to Cobra? Grandma Flo's? Tommy's? 1 of the many others, floating around? When did this fight happen? before or after the binger? (Ron's reckless driving). A witness saw Ron reckless driving away from the bus stop. Ron claimed he, Misty, Haleigh, & Jr? were going to Annette's to pick up a favorite outfit, or to replace a stained outfit, (already 2 versions), they got it, & then Misty walked Haleigh all the way to her class. Ron was in trouble for tardies, so this doesn't make a lick of sense. As far as I know, only Ron was spotted, so were the others in the car? I don't think so. (Haleigh being picked up). This one's a doozy. Ron claims he picked up Haleigh, & had a loving father/daughter ride home, where he even gave details of letting her drive. this from a guy, who admits to driving, like a cracker. Misty backed up this account with a story of Jr sleeping the entire day away. (poor kid). Chelsea even claims that she saw Ronald, & he wouldn't let her talk to Haleigh, (the meanie). But, & here's the problem...witnesses put Misty at the bus stop, & said she looked tired & worn out, & even smacked Jr. (across the face, I believe). She was seen talking on the phone, & arguing with Lindsey & a guy. The witness said it sounded like they were arguing over bad dope, & then Lindsey & the guy, sped off. I don't know about you, but Misty smacking Jr. is a lot more believable, than Ron letting Haleigh drive home. (Ron & work). This is another doozy. Everbody from Ron, to his attorney, to his preacher, have given different accounts of his work hours. Kim Picazo recently said, that Ron wasn't upfront about those hours. We don't know when he left for work, when he got there, when he clocked in, when he clocked out, what kind of breaks he had...nothing. We do know that he was there at some point, & LE said they were satisfied. whatever that means. (Ron's & Misty's calls). We've heard every number between 1 & 100, with the common number hovering around 20 plus. We've heard that this included calls, & texts, but we've never heard what these were about. (Ron's call to Tommy). Ron called Tommy, & we recently heard that Tommy took that call at his parent's home. Tommy claimed that on Ron's request, he went to the trailer, & found it dark & empty. Ron, through his attorney, (so, it seems he realized the importance), denied that request. He claimed that he simply asked if Misty was with him. Tommy didn't argue Ron's claim, (so, it looks like Ron is the truthful one here), & semi recanted his own claim, by changing the time. But, the smoking gun here, is that Tommy placed himself at the trailer. LE has said they are not disregarding Tommy's original time. That's enough for now, but I'll get to the rest later, even though it seems like I'm conversing with myself, lol. Where is everyone?

 

[dodie20]

some of what we know...Misty & Ron had a fight, which led to her binger. There was a fight, involving Joe, at some point, over a gun. Ron was seen reckless driving, that morning, away from the bus stop. Misty was seen picking Haleigh up from the bus stop, arguing with Lindsey, although Ron swears, he picked her up. Ron went to work. Annette Sykes claims to have seen a live Haleigh. There were many calls, between Ron & Misty. There was at least 1 call, between Ron & Tommy-with Tommy, according to sources, taking that call from his parent's home. Tommy claimed to have gone to the trailer, on Ron's behalf, but found it dark & empty. He semi recanted that story. A scream was heard from the trailer. Misty, was seen outside, crying on the phone. Jr., via his mother, claims to have seen a man in black, with squeaky shoes, take Haleigh from her bed. He claims to have seen the couch bouncing. There were several hits, on the dumpster. Misty has failed her lie tests. Tommy failed 1, but claims he was only asked 1 question. Tommy, with help from Misty, accused Joe of murdering Haleigh. Misty, I do believe, has recanted that claim, but Tommy, via his lawyer, is sticking to it. According to sources, Misty has told LE, that Tommy has the answers, but Chelsea has denied that this conversation ever took place. Ron has struck a truth telling deal.

ok, I'm back & talking about the different stories & their counter stories. (the scream). A neighbor heard a female scream, from the trailer. Has Misty ever addressed this? We don't know if it was her scream, Haleigh's scream, or some other female's. I'm assuming it was Misty's, based on her being spotted, a little later in the yard, but it's just an assumption. Was it a scream of fear for herself? fear for someone else? a scream of horror? a yell of anger? a shout out to her homies? It could be anything. As far as I know, the neighbor has never ellaborated. (Misty in the yard). At some point, after the scream, Misty was spotted in the yard, (by a different neighbor, I believe), pacing, talking, & crying on the phone. The big question is, who was Misty talking to. Ron? TN? Tommy? Timmy? Lisa? Nay Nay? It could be anyone, & I presume LE has those records, but I'd guess her mom. because the tears say she was scared or upset, & who does a young girl turn to when she's scared or upset? If it was Lisa, I can only imagine the motherly advice, she dolled out. ughh...this case might have been solved by now, if whoever was on the other end, had talked some sense into her about being truthful. But whoever it was, I get the feeling that they stressed the importance of not bringing their names into it, not bringing down their families, not confessing to any illegal activity, cleaning up the house...everything except putting Haleigh 1st. (man in black). Jr according to his mother, claimed that either a black man, or a man in black, with squeaky shoes, took Haleigh, from her bed. Now which bed was that, I wonder. her bed, in her room? Ron's bed, that she shared with Misty & Jr? or the baby mat on the floor? But par for the course, there's a counter story. Ron dismissed this claim, & said that the story was planted, by Crystal. which is weird, because this story fit the snatcher story...unless there's more to Jr's tale, than we know. like Misty wasn't at the trailer, at the time? Jr also reportedly, saw the couch bouncing. Now, that's a can of worms. Who was on the couch? Misty? Haleigh? & why was it bouncing? something sexual? something violent? CPR? (dumpster hits). During an early search, (but not an immediate one), some sort of tracking dogs, hit on the dumpster. LE brushed this away, saying they had hit upon a tampax, or some such. They later declared the dock, near the elder Croslin's address, the crime scene. I don't know what to think about this. I'm not so willing to brush aside those hits, so I'm wondering what the odds are, that a different dead body had been placed there. too long, I think.

 

[dodie20]

some of what we know...Misty & Ron had a fight, which led to her binger. There was a fight, involving Joe, at some point, over a gun. Ron was seen reckless driving, that morning, away from the bus stop. Misty was seen picking Haleigh up from the bus stop, arguing with Lindsey, although Ron swears, he picked her up. Ron went to work. Annette Sykes claims to have seen a live Haleigh. There were many calls, between Ron & Misty. There was at least 1 call, between Ron & Tommy-with Tommy, according to sources, taking that call from his parent's home. Tommy claimed to have gone to the trailer, on Ron's behalf, but found it dark & empty. He semi recanted that story. A scream was heard from the trailer. Misty, was seen outside, crying on the phone. Jr., via his mother, claims to have seen a man in black, with squeaky shoes, take Haleigh from her bed. He claims to have seen the couch bouncing. There were several hits, on the dumpster. Misty has failed her lie tests. Tommy failed 1, but claims he was only asked 1 question. Tommy, with help from Misty, accused Joe of murdering Haleigh. Misty, I do believe, has recanted that claim, but Tommy, via his lawyer, is sticking to it. According to sources, Misty has told LE, that Tommy has the answers, but Chelsea has denied that this conversation ever took place. Ron has struck a truth telling deal.

I'm back again. (Misty's failed lie tests). She took plenty, so what did LE learn? Did they ask her simple questions like, 'did you kill Haleigh?' Did she get caught lying on that one? If so, why in the world, hasn't she been arrested? LE has the most willing LDT taker, ever, & even failed tests tell the truth, so I don't get this. what a crock. Ron claimed that both he & Misty passed their initial tests, (his only, I believe), so was he lying? Did he get the results? Did they both pass? Did he pass & she fail? Did they both fail? (Tommy's LDT). It was reported that he failed, but he claimed to Linsey, that he was asked only 1 question? Could this be true? If it is, what a wasted opportunity. I read that his question dealt with him going to the trailer that night. This was my take on Tommy & his LDT. He sat in jail, stewing & dwelling, & desperate to get out, psyched himself into thinking he could pass. taking that thing, (from a legal standpoint), was the dumbest thing, he ever did. (Joe did it). This is way too long & convoluted to delve too far into, but this is my take. This was Tommy's story. He was in the thick of the action, had the details, had the eye witness accounts...Misty was a background player, who could back him up. Evidently, he gave LE some real information that led to real evidence, because although Misty has backed away from the claim, he's sticking to it. My guess this is because he doesn't want to forced to explain that real evidence, without the benefit of Joe as the murderer. (Misty pointing at Tommy). Misty, according to Art Harris, told cops that Tommy has the answers. Chelsea has disputed the whole conversation. How would SHE know? Misty, backing away from Joe & pointing at Tommy, could be her way giving Tommy, permission, to tell the truth-even if it comes back on her...or it could be her pointing at Tommy, because she thinks he's guilty. (Ron's deal). I guess LE doesn't think he's directly responsible, for Haleigh's death...or it could be a set-up. They like set-ups, so you never know. Part of his agreement, is that he has to be forthcoming & truthful, but, his attorney, recently reiterated that Ron picked Haleigh up from the bus stop-which is contrary to witness account. So, is Ron going to be truthful? Also, as part of his deal, Ron finally did own up to the gun fight. I sure would like to know what else he's had to say.

 

[krkrjx]

Cut and paste from dodie20 post:

Jr also reportedly, saw the couch bouncing. Now, that's a can of worms. Who was on the couch? Misty? Haleigh? & why was it bouncing? something sexual? something violent? CPR?

The couch may or may not have been bouncing, and Jr. may or may not have said it was, etc....but nonetheless, that couch bothers me. Something happened there, or someone sat there while something happened elsewhere in the home, IMO. I think Tommy was on that couch at a critical time, and here's why I think so:

In one of the jail visits while Tommy was in St. Johns, Lisa started to ask Tommy about something and he quickly cut her off. IIRC, Lisa was referring to something Flo had told her that had her curious. She said to Tommy (paraphrasing since I do not have the exact quote and cannot go through all jail vids looking for it): "She [Flo?] said you and Misty were on the couch and..."

That's when Tommy cut her off with a quick statement along the lines of, "I'm not saying nothing about that. I'm not talking about stuff anymore." And Lisa never tried to push it.

If true, this places both Misty and Tommy in the home on the couch that evening at some point. Of course, there's no way to know if it's true, or at what time it may have occurred even if it is true. But I have always wondered why Tommy cut Lisa off when she started talking about him and Misty being on the couch. There has to be a reason why Tommy did not want Lisa to say any more about it, IMO. And since Tommy didn't respond by saying it wasn't true--that it was a rumor or whatever, I can't help but think Misty and Tommy were there on that couch at a critical time that night. I mean...if it were untrue, or true but irrelevant, why would Tommy jump so quickly to cut Lisa off when she asked him about it?

 

[Dr. Know?]

Me too, about that couch question from Lisa to Tommy. It just bugs you doesn't it? It was so obvious on the jail call. Lisa asks, Tommy deflects big time it sounded like to me.

 

[Levi]

I'm back again. (Misty's failed lie tests). She took plenty, so what did LE learn? Did they ask her simple questions like, 'did you kill Haleigh?' Did she get caught lying on that one? If so, why in the world, hasn't she been arrested? LE has the most willing LDT taker, ever, & even failed tests tell the truth, so I don't get this. what a crock. Ron claimed that both he & Misty passed their initial tests, (his only, I believe), so was he lying? Did he get the results? Did they both pass? Did he pass & she fail? Did they both fail? (Tommy's LDT). It was reported that he failed, but he claimed to Linsey, that he was asked only 1 question? Could this be true? If it is, what a wasted opportunity. I read that his question dealt with him going to the trailer that night. This was my take on Tommy & his LDT. He sat in jail, stewing & dwelling, & desperate to get out, psyched himself into thinking he could pass. taking that thing, (from a legal standpoint), was the dumbest thing, he ever did. (Joe did it). This is way too long & convoluted to delve too far into, but this is my take. This was Tommy's story. He was in the thick of the action, had the details, had the eye witness accounts...Misty was a background player, who could back him up. Evidently, he gave LE some real information that led to real evidence, because although Misty has backed away from the claim, he's sticking to it. My guess this is because he doesn't want to forced to explain that real evidence, without the benefit of Joe as the murderer. (Misty pointing at Tommy). Misty, according to Art Harris, told cops that Tommy has the answers. Chelsea has disputed the whole conversation. How would SHE know? Misty, backing away from Joe & pointing at Tommy, could be her way giving Tommy, permission, to tell the truth-even if it comes back on her...or it could be her pointing at Tommy, because she thinks he's guilty. (Ron's deal). I guess LE doesn't think he's directly responsible, for Haleigh's death...or it could be a set-up. They like set-ups, so you never know. Part of his agreement, is that he has to be forthcoming & truthful, but, his attorney, recently reiterated that Ron picked Haleigh up from the bus stop-which is contrary to witness account. So, is Ron going to be truthful? Also, as part of his deal, Ron finally did own up to the gun fight. I sure would like to know what else he's had to say.

Actually I was told that both Ronald and Misty failed their police polygraphs, in the genesis of this case.

Which really made law enforcement focus on them, if you recall law enforcement stated several times that Ronald was uncooperative and that he was protecting Misty and sheilding her.

Unfortunately polygraphs are not allowed into evidence, so law enforcement cannot charge Tommy, Misty, or Ronald for simply failing a polygraph.

I also don't believe Tommy when he told Lindsy that they only asked him one question during the polygraph. They ask a couple of questions. First they will ask him something like: "Is your name Tommy..." obviously he will say yes, and they will get a truthful answer, and then compare that to the other questions they ask him.

Tommy placed himself at the scene of the crime, we know Ron and Tommy were in some sort of communication that night, we know Ron put a headless rat in Tommy's mailbox, Misty says Tommy knows. That is enough for law enforcement to call him a suspect... I think they're trying to get him to crack.

I just wonder if his mind is so messed up on drugs if he can remember or know exactly what he did? But he did something.

He is not innocent in all of this that is for sure.

I wish LE could start applying pressure to Annette and Teresa. From what I've been told PCSO would like to but they have very good reasons why they can't, because they have to work with other police departments, who may be protecting Annette... Contrary to what some say, PCSO cannot stand Ron's family.

Ron's mom Teresa has made up nasty nicknames for some of the officers involved in the case, and she regularly complains about them. There is no love loss there.

 

[dodie20]

Thanks for that little tidbit of inside information, Levi. I even read somewhere that 1 failed & 1 was inconclusive. I had a feeling that Misty's was the inconclusive, (smiley face), & that was the real reason cops went after her. I've never believed Ronald's LDT assertions.

 

[dodie20]

I don't know where else to put this, but whenever I think of Misty, being Haleigh's primary caretaker, I get mad. & nobody...not Ron, not Teresa, not Annette, nobody has ever denied that. Misty said that it was she, who massaged Haleigh's leg cramps, Annette said that Haleigh looked like she had stepped out of a beauty shop, every morning, & the kids cried to be with her, & Flo said that Misty even offered to pay Teresa to babysit, but she refused. Is there any truth here? If Misty did snap, is it any wonder? EVEN I would be nervous about taking care of a needy child, so why did all of these people, expect Misty to take care of Haleigh & Jr.?

 

[Emeralgem]

Actually I was told that both Ronald and Misty failed their police polygraphs, in the genesis of this case.

Which really made law enforcement focus on them, if you recall law enforcement stated several times that Ronald was uncooperative and that he was protecting Misty and sheilding her.

Unfortunately polygraphs are not allowed into evidence, so law enforcement cannot charge Tommy, Misty, or Ronald for simply failing a polygraph.

I also don't believe Tommy when he told Lindsy that they only asked him one question during the polygraph. They ask a couple of questions. First they will ask him something like: "Is your name Tommy..." obviously he will say yes, and they will get a truthful answer, and then compare that to the other questions they ask him.

Tommy placed himself at the scene of the crime, we know Ron and Tommy were in some sort of communication that night, we know Ron put a headless rat in Tommy's mailbox, Misty says Tommy knows. That is enough for law enforcement to call him a suspect... I think they're trying to get him to crack.

I just wonder if his mind is so messed up on drugs if he can remember or know exactly what he did? But he did something.

He is not innocent in all of this that is for sure.

I wish LE could start applying pressure to Annette and Teresa. From what I've been told PCSO would like to but they have very good reasons why they can't, because they have to work with other police departments, who may be protecting Annette... Contrary to what some say, PCSO cannot stand Ron's family.

Ron's mom Teresa has made up nasty nicknames for some of the officers involved in the case, and she regularly complains about them. There is no love loss there.

BBM..From your keyboard to God's ears..Something needs to be done to put some pressure on these two lying women...

 

[tiki21]

hi levi- what you said is what i've been hoping to hear all along. although they may be restricted in their questioning of as/tn, its reassuring to hear that they have put some focus on them

 

[Lanie]

Actually I was told that both Ronald and Misty failed their police polygraphs, in the genesis of this case.

Which really made law enforcement focus on them, if you recall law enforcement stated several times that Ronald was uncooperative and that he was protecting Misty and sheilding her.

Unfortunately polygraphs are not allowed into evidence, so law enforcement cannot charge Tommy, Misty, or Ronald for simply failing a polygraph.

I also don't believe Tommy when he told Lindsy that they only asked him one question during the polygraph. They ask a couple of questions. First they will ask him something like: "Is your name Tommy..." obviously he will say yes, and they will get a truthful answer, and then compare that to the other questions they ask him.

Tommy placed himself at the scene of the crime, we know Ron and Tommy were in some sort of communication that night, we know Ron put a headless rat in Tommy's mailbox, Misty says Tommy knows. That is enough for law enforcement to call him a suspect... I think they're trying to get him to crack.

I just wonder if his mind is so messed up on drugs if he can remember or know exactly what he did? But he did something.

He is not innocent in all of this that is for sure.

I wish LE could start applying pressure to Annette and Teresa. From what I've been told PCSO would like to but they have very good reasons why they can't, because they have to work with other police departments, who may be protecting Annette... Contrary to what some say, PCSO cannot stand Ron's family.

Ron's mom Teresa has made up nasty nicknames for some of the officers involved in the case, and she regularly complains about them. There is no love loss there.

BBM

This has been my impression all along, and it's nice to see someone else putting it out there.

 

[little lulu]

I suppose this is just 'out there' but I truly wish LE would issue statements on this case, it's like 'no one's home' . Personally to me, it looks bad on them.

 

[dodie20]

I'm gonna rehash a few theories. Ron as the perp...Misty might cover for him, but would Tommy? especially to the point of blaming Joe? that's beyond crazy, unless Ron knows something just as bad on Tommy, which is doubtful. Misty as the perp...this actually makes the most logical sense, because I think she'd garner the most loyalty, but this much & this long? after she & Ron divorced, wouldn't he have come forward? plus, I don't think Tommy cares that much for Misty, & she has given him many reasons, to turn on her. so, seeing his continued support is hard, for me....unless she knows something just as bad about him. Tommy, as the perp...this is a tricky one. If Tommy's the guilty one, the only thing that makes sense, is that Ron doesn't know. Otherwise, would he cover for him? deal drugs with him? again, only if Tommy knows something just as bad on him. Would Misty cover for Tommy. A lot of people think she'd turn on him in a heartbeat, but I'm not so sure. Tommy messes up every scenario, regardless of who I look at. He shouldn't be in this mess, but he is. At this point, I'm still leaning towards Tommy being the perp, Misty involved somehow, & covering for him, & Ron living such an illegal lifestyle, that he univolved himself, real quick. I think he's been covering for whatever Misty's did.

 

[krkrjx]

All the players are aware of the fact that with sufficient evidence someone would have been charged with homicide. Since no charges are pending, it is obvious to all the players that there is insufficient evidence. Until someone is facing charges regarding Haleigh, no one is going to speak the truth. I have been waiting for one or more of them to have an attack of conscience but now I do not think that is going to happen.

 

[Emeralgem]

All the players are aware of the fact that with sufficient evidence someone would have been charged with homicide. Since no charges are pending, it is obvious to all the players that there is insufficient evidence. Until someone is facing charges regarding Haleigh, no one is going to speak the truth. I have been waiting for one or more of them to have an attack of conscience but now I do not think that is going to happen.

..First you have to possess a conscience...IMO..That silver cord has been completely severed..No hope for any of these people to connect to their higher self..JMHO

 

[krkrjx]

Actually I was told that both Ronald and Misty failed their police polygraphs, in the genesis of this case.

Which really made law enforcement focus on them, if you recall law enforcement stated several times that Ronald was uncooperative and that he was protecting Misty and sheilding her.

Unfortunately polygraphs are not allowed into evidence, so law enforcement cannot charge Tommy, Misty, or Ronald for simply failing a polygraph.

I also don't believe Tommy when he told Lindsy that they only asked him one question during the polygraph. They ask a couple of questions. First they will ask him something like: "Is your name Tommy..." obviously he will say yes, and they will get a truthful answer, and then compare that to the other questions they ask him.

Tommy placed himself at the scene of the crime, we know Ron and Tommy were in some sort of communication that night, we know Ron put a headless rat in Tommy's mailbox, Misty says Tommy knows. That is enough for law enforcement to call him a suspect... I think they're trying to get him to crack.

I just wonder if his mind is so messed up on drugs if he can remember or know exactly what he did? But he did something.

He is not innocent in all of this that is for sure.

I wish LE could start applying pressure to Annette and Teresa. From what I've been told PCSO would like to but they have very good reasons why they can't, because they have to work with other police departments, who may be protecting Annette... Contrary to what some say, PCSO cannot stand Ron's family.

Ron's mom Teresa has made up nasty nicknames for some of the officers involved in the case, and she regularly complains about them. There is no love loss there.

BBM: That is just one more on the list of disturbing things I have heard in this case.

I cannot help but consider it a form of corruption if LE sees certain individuals as inaccessible only because pressuring them might pizz off another police department. FGS, is Haleigh not important enough for PCSO to do their job? Perhaps if she were the child of a prominent family that PCSO respected, they might have done better by her.

 

[dodie20]

BBM: That is just one more on the list of disturbing things I have heard in this case.

I cannot help but consider it a form of corruption if LE sees certain individuals as inaccessible only because pressuring them might pizz off another police department. FGS, is Haleigh not important enough for PCSO to do their job? Perhaps if she were the child of a prominent family that PCSO respected, they might have done better by her.

I so agree, & I'm thinking that might just be an excuse for letting that boat sail. After watching all of Teresa's, Nancy Grace appearances, I don't see how LE could ignore her discrepancies, & her obvious agenda... to at the least, make Ron look good, no matter what, even if it meant covering for Misty. MOO, & it worked! No reporter ever asked hard hitting questions about his work hours, the witnesses at the bus stop, the gun fight, the headless rat, or the satutory accusations, etc...He just said that he picked Haleigh up, then was at work, there was no gun fight, he married Misty, because they were in love & that's what Haleigh wanted.

 

[dodie20]

All the players are aware of the fact that with sufficient evidence someone would have been charged with homicide. Since no charges are pending, it is obvious to all the players that there is insufficient evidence. Until someone is facing charges regarding Haleigh, no one is going to speak the truth. I have been waiting for one or more of them to have an attack of conscience but now I do not think that is going to happen.

I thought somebody might have a conscience attack too, or more likely, an 'I'm not going down for you', attack, but nothing. & that is one of the most baffling things I've ever seen. because, how could these people ALL be culpable? I've thought that all, but the perp, might be so immersed in the different cover-ups, that they just look guilty, but after all of this time, that's making less & less sense.

 

[Hippy Chick]

I have followed this from the beginning and here is my thoughts: I think MC was exhausted from a weekend of drugging and partying, and then up a nother night fighting with RC. I think TC and JO came to visit with the intent to have sex with MC. I think this had been going on in this family for a long time. The way they were raised with drug addicted parents living here and there there is no telling what these kids saw and were subjected to in their young lives. I bet MC was not much if any older than Haleigh when she was first molested by God knows who. I think they came with drugs and alcohol and between the drugs and exhaustion she passed out. These two (snipped by mod) substituted Haleigh instead. ( Junior and the bouncing couch story). I believe Haleigh was injured and died and the panic set in. I think MC called RC @ work to tell him and was to scared and JO and TC convinced her she would go down with them so she shut her phone off and helped with the cover up.When RC came home she was outside in a panic and HC, JO, and TC were gone and the lies started and snowballed and she felt at this point she could't come clean and even now she thinks that the drug offences will be better in jail than accessory of a murder of a child. The old saying blood is thicker than water rings true here. I really don't think anyone but JO and TC knows where Haleigh's body is. They wouldn't tell MC because they were afraid she would crack and tell. No body no crime and so it stands to this day. IMO

 

[Lanie]

I have followed this from the beginning and here is my thoughts: I think MC was exhausted from a weekend of drugging and partying, and then up a nother night fighting with RC. I think TC and JO came to visit with the intent to have sex with MC. I think this had been going on in this family for a long time. The way they were raised with drug addicted parents living here and there there is no telling what these kids saw and were subjected to in their young lives. I bet MC was not much if any older than Haleigh when she was first molested by God knows who. I think they came with drugs and alcohol and between the drugs and exhaustion she passed out. These two (snipped by mod) substituted Haleigh instead. ( Junior and the bouncing couch story). I believe Haleigh was injured and died and the panic set in. I think MC called RC @ work to tell him and was to scared and JO and TC convinced her she would go down with them so she shut her phone off and helped with the cover up.When RC came home she was outside in a panic and HC, JO, and TC were gone and the lies started and snowballed and she felt at this point she could't come clean and even now she thinks that the drug offences will be better in jail than accessory of a murder of a child. The old saying blood is thicker than water rings true here. I really don't think anyone but JO and TC knows where Haleigh's body is. They wouldn't tell MC because they were afraid she would crack and tell. No body no crime and so it stands to this day. IMO

My theory is real similar to this except I think Misty was more involved than just being passed out.