General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[suspicious1]

All HELL would have broke loose IF I had driven up and seen my grandchildren eating dinner on a cold front porch at dark thirty and them not wearing any tops.
I would have also sent Misty packing and taken the children home with me.

One thing for certain I would have not been praisng her to high heaven in an interview a week or so later or telling reporters ..Thats a CROCK, you don't know her, I do.. She takes good care of those children, feeds them bathes them and every morning when Haleigh goes to school, she looks like she just stepped out of a beauty shop.

IMO.. The visit didn't happen like she claims it did.. I suspect IF she was there at any time that night it was after Haleigh's demise. She never saw Haleigh alive and well or half naked eating green beans on any screened-in front porch.
IMO Her story is the one thats a CROCK...JMHO

Amen!

I don't think that visit happened like she claimed it did either. I agree with those who feel that there is too much emphasis being put on that shirt. I think whatever happened to Haleigh caused her shirt to become stained and taken off of her. Too much talk about laundry IMO. I once felt that Misty omitted Annette's visit in her original statement because she was told not to mention that visit. Maybe someone spotted Annette's vehicle there at the mh and she needed to explain/put out there WHY she was there....to drop off laundry. Maybe that was her way of covering her own butt. jmo

 

[Chablis]

Amen!

I don't think that visit happened like she claimed it did either. I agree with those who feel that there is too much emphasis being put on that shirt. I think whatever happened to Haleigh caused her shirt to become stained and taken off of her. Too much talk about laundry IMO. I once felt that Misty omitted Annette's visit in her original statement because she was told not to mention that visit. Maybe someone spotted Annette's vehicle there at the mh and she needed to explain/put out there WHY she was there....to drop off laundry. Maybe that was her way of covering her own butt. jmo

Exactly, I do not think anyone was to have ever known about her visit that night, at first, thats why we never heard anything about it for almost two weeks into this case. So that would make a lot of sense. And if the person with Annette was her daughter in law nurse? On the night a child goes missing?

Misty gets a 42 percent result on a lie detector question, she knows 1 of like 3 people took Haleigh. My bets on the 3 are, Annette, Ronald and whoever was with Annette and if its the rumored nurse in law, shes married to Annettes son who is a tough, tough guy himself.

 

[Whisperer]

I feel the need to clarify this, not that it is that important but Elisa Squires is NOT a nurse. The one listed on the license website is a different person with the same first and last but a different middle name. This one with the same name resides in in South Florida. Our Elis Squires resides in Putnam County.

 

[Whisperer]

If misty didn't bath Haleigh, then the shirt that was put on with Granny there, would have the shirt used for the Amber Report. Misty changed her pajama story to pink shirt and tan shorts. Granny doesn't collaborate. Why? This is important. Clothing for Amber Alert is very important. It is also iimportant in finding a body.

Yet the interviewer asked but didn't pursue the answer from Granny the other night.:banghead: misty has no clue on WTH was going on, or so it appears.

 

[Whisperer]

Ron, Granny, TN should have actively pursued the question of the clothing....yet nothing..

 

[titanfan62702]

I feel the need to clarify this, not that it is that important but Elisa Squires is NOT a nurse. The one listed on the license website is a different person with the same first and last but a different middle name. This one with the same name resides in in South Florida. Our Elis Squires resides in Putnam County.

Brings up Katrina -- in the medical field, had a tree service company, but needed to look for a job. Is that correct?

 

[lonetraveler]

IOW, if Ron was made aware, that Misty was offered immunity. I wonder how he felt about that.

:floorlaugh: I think he probably had to hit his supply of clean underware........

 

[lonetraveler]

If misty didn't bath Haleigh, then the shirt that was put on with Granny there, would have the shirt used for the Amber Report. Misty changed her pajama story to pink shirt and tan shorts. Granny doesn't collaborate. Why? This is important. Clothing for Amber Alert is very important. It is also iimportant in finding a body.

Yet the interviewer asked but didn't pursue the answer from Granny the other night.:banghead: misty has no clue on WTH was going on, or so it appears.

Yep, Misty was asked multiple times what Haleigh was wearing that evening yet we have not heard even once if GMA was asked this very same question although she has stated that she put a shirt on Haleigh late that very same evening. It appears to me that LE should have had some idea of what GMA put on Haleigh, especially since LE reportedly found the pink shirt that Misty had stated that Haleigh was wearing, inside the MH. I'm still believing that Misty was not there at all that evening.

 

[lonetraveler]

Brings up Katrina -- in the medical field, had a tree service company, but needed to look for a job. Is that correct?

A long, long time ago, I wondered if Tommy had to wait until Lindsy came home that night so that he and Lindsy could go over to the MH to check on Haleigh per Ron's request. Lindsy was almost a nurse at that time.

 

[dodie20]

I want to say something in regard to people changing stories. 1st of all, IMO, AS doesn't act like she's in the know. I'm sorry, but she seems to do & say things that actually come back & bite her family. My daughter dated a guy for 2 & a half years, so I got to know his family very well. They were in a similar situation....no missing child, but the son's gf OD'd & died. (they were both teeagers). Occasionally, he or his mom would bring up this subject...& every single time, without fail, details changed, people who were involved changed, reasons changed, blame changed, etc... There's never been any question that the gf took the drugs willingly, but of course, it caused a huge feud between the 2 families. Where did the drugs come from? who was she partying with that night? how long had she been in their house? who had she been visiting? what happened when they found her? change after change after change, & enough blame to go around for a lifetime. From what I see, nobody wants to own their responsibility in this girl's death. not her parents, who didn't care about her & let her move in with the bf, not the bf, who did drugs with her, not his parents who condoned their activity in their house, & on & on & on. So, each person in this situation knows that if he/she had intervened, her death could have been avoided...so they change stories, to alleviate their own guilt, by throwing blame somewhere else. None of these particular people are willing to say, 'I was wrong'. Now, this example may not apply to Haleigh's case, but it does remind me that 'not guilty' people change stories & mix up the truth for other reasons. MOO.

 

[tiki21]

You are right, it is a crock. She was there and the kids were not eating, that is for sure, imo. She was there with someone of assistance for Haleigh, this is why I think that Misty went into that bedroom with Junior while everyone was attending to Haleigh and deciding what to do, Misty was there to deal with Junior, because someone had to, they wouldnt just let him wander and watch and be able to tell anyone what happened.

Then after Ron does not move back in the trailer, because hes not in the normal paternal mindset that there is hope Haleigh is going to come back to that trailer, if she had been stole, his hope was lost right away, and who does he move in with? Annette. I think if anyone was keeping their enemies close in this story it could be her. jmo

i agree- Ron knew Haleigh wasn't coming home. if he thought Haleigh was kidnapped by a stranger and could possibly escape, wouldn't he want to be at the one place Haleigh would have ran for her life to?

 

[lonetraveler]

Too bad we do not have any witness statements putting GMA at the MH that late evening. At this time we only have Teresa putting her there and later GMA's "That's a Crock" story and then of course the infamous LVA where Misty relates GMA and Aunt Elisa? coming by. Just think, if it was somehow, someway proven that Misty was elsewhere that late evening, GMA and Teresa have put GMA as the last one to be with Haleigh before she went missing. I've always been astounded that no one came forth (as far as we know) except for a drunken woman per Crobra, to say that Misty was not at the MH that night. Did Le even check it out to verify if GMA was there or not? Or did they just jump on her story and ran with it and based their entire timeline on it? If evidence was discovered that Misty was not in the MH then the entire Cummings story would have to drastically change. They would have to admit that the children were alone after Ron left for work or change who was watching them. This could implicate Hope Sykes IMO. Both grandmas would have some explaining to do, big time. Ron would have some explaining to do as well since he would have to be the one who left the children alone. Would Teresa step in and say that she was with them, to protect Ron? Would GMA step forward and say that she was with them, to protect Ron and maybe Teresa or Hope? This scenario would change the whole ballgame for sure.:twocents:

 

[titanfan62702]

i agree- Ron knew Haleigh wasn't coming home. if he thought Haleigh was kidnapped by a stranger and could possibly escape, wouldn't he want to be at the one place Haleigh would have ran for her life to?

Ron thinks of Ron. I think more likely the reason he didn't stay there was not paying rent or he would be in danger that someone knew where he lived so lets put GMS in danger too.

 

[Chablis]

Ron thinks of Ron. I think more likely the reason he didn't stay there was not paying rent or he would be in danger that someone knew where he lived so lets put GMS in danger too.

I think Grandma Sykes can hold her own. I do think she would protect Ronald and Hope, after all Hope is a Sykes, I wonder if Annette raised her as well? I am not trying to start drama, but I think its a legit questioning. Hope was also targeted in this sting, we have heard her GUSH about Ronald, her mother, RIP, was at the drug bust with Misty and Ron and had Mistys purse.

Something is not right.

 

[suspicious1]

I just won't believe that Annette is clueless as to what happened to Haleigh.

Let's say that Annette was mad about Ron letting Misty back in and she was actually telling the truth....what made her change her mind about Misty? She defended Misty too. So what happen to her being mad? If she was mad about Ron letting Misty back in.....a child, Annette's great-grandchild, came up missing as soon as Ron let her back in.....Annette should've been ready to kill Misty at this point...but yet she chose to defend her? and tell us how mature Misty was and how Misty took care of those kids? huh? IMO, that doesn't make sense....

1. Annette is already furious that Ron let Misty back in..
2. Annette goes over to the mh "to bring laundry" and when she pulls up the kids are outside eating dinner with no shirts on in the cold weather..
3. Just hours after that visit, Annette is notified that Haleigh is missing..

This is what Annette would like for us to believe...and yet she defended Misty? Nah, I don't think it happened exactly like that. Her great grandchild went missing "supposedly on Misty's watch"...what changed Annette's attitude toward Misty? IMO, it's because she knows Misty is not the one responsible for whatever happened to Haleigh and she praised Misty because Misty was protecting and taking the heat for one of her own....now that makes sense to me. jmo though

 

[titanfan62702]

I just won't believe that Annette is clueless as to what happened to Haleigh.

Let's say that Annette was mad about Ron letting Misty back in and she was actually telling the truth....what made her change her mind about Misty? She defended Misty too. So what happen to her being mad? If she was mad about Ron letting Misty back in.....a child, Annette's great-grandchild, came up missing as soon as Ron let her back in.....Annette should've been ready to kill Misty at this point...but yet she chose to defend her? and tell us how mature Misty was and how Misty took care of those kids? huh? IMO, that doesn't make sense....

1. Annette is already furious that Ron let Misty back in..
2. Annette goes over to the mh "to bring laundry" and when she pulls up the kids are outside eating dinner with no shirts on in the cold weather..
3. Just hours after that visit, Annette is notified that Haleigh is missing..

This is what Annette would like for us to believe...and yet she defended Misty? Nah, I don't think it happened exactly like that. Her great grandchild went missing "supposedly on Misty's watch"...what changed Annette's attitude toward Misty? IMO, it's because she knows Misty is not the one responsible for whatever happened to Haleigh and she praised Misty because Misty was protecting and taking the heat for one of her own....now that makes sense to me. jmo though

Makes sense to me too. It seems so abnormal that someone would get more upset over someone being part of their grandson being arrested than their great-grandchild going missing or dead.

 

[dodie20]

I just won't believe that Annette is clueless as to what happened to Haleigh.

Let's say that Annette was mad about Ron letting Misty back in and she was actually telling the truth....what made her change her mind about Misty? She defended Misty too. So what happen to her being mad? If she was mad about Ron letting Misty back in.....a child, Annette's great-grandchild, came up missing as soon as Ron let her back in.....Annette should've been ready to kill Misty at this point...but yet she chose to defend her? and tell us how mature Misty was and how Misty took care of those kids? huh? IMO, that doesn't make sense....

1. Annette is already furious that Ron let Misty back in..
2. Annette goes over to the mh "to bring laundry" and when she pulls up the kids are outside eating dinner with no shirts on in the cold weather..
3. Just hours after that visit, Annette is notified that Haleigh is missing..

This is what Annette would like for us to believe...and yet she defended Misty? Nah, I don't think it happened exactly like that. Her great grandchild went missing "supposedly on Misty's watch"...what changed Annette's attitude toward Misty? IMO, it's because she knows Misty is not the one responsible for whatever happened to Haleigh and she praised Misty because Misty was protecting and taking the heat for one of her own....now that makes sense to me. jmo though

it makes sense, but Misty covering for Ron being a murderer isn't the only thing Misty could be covering. She might have been covering for something else that pertained to Ron. Maybe these people were desperate to keep Jr & didn't want anything to not appear on the up & up...if they knew that Misty being honest with LE, meant all of their activities would come to light, then maybe they decided it wasn't worth it...especially if those activities played a part in the sequence of events that led to Haleigh disappearing, IMO anyway, I can see them deciding to just let a lot of it go. Why make things worse, by telling the truth? It wouldn't bring back Haleigh & they'd lose Jr too. IMO, some of this may have started in an attempt to make Ron look better than he was. There was controversy building up because of Misty's age, his arrest record was being examined, Geraldo asked him if he was a Nark, his work hours were being questioned, he was fired, etc...a lot was going on & then presto! he married Misty, & AS supplied him an alibi of sorts. He was at work & the kids were fine. never mind that she can't seem to keep straight what they were eating or wearing...IMO, it doesn't sound like she was there or saw the kids, but in all honesty, I don't think she's covering for murder. I think if they were protecting Ron, things would've played out a lot differently...no divorce, no kicking Misty out, no drug bust, etc...AS wouldn't have let either one of them out of her sight. I wish I could remember the exact sequence of events, AFTER Misty showed deception on Ron in the LVA test. IMO, Misty acted like she didn't have a concrete reason to suspect his involvement, but didn't know who to suspect. Plus, if Ron was involved in the aftermath, I guess that would cause deception. My problem with being objective, is I believe too much of what Misty has had to say. I know I shouldn't, because she has told some woppers, but I do believe a lot of her bunk. MOO.

 

[suspicious1]

it makes sense, but Misty covering for Ron being a murderer isn't the only thing Misty could be covering. She might have been covering for something else that pertained to Ron. Maybe these people were desperate to keep Jr & didn't want anything to not appear on the up & up...if they knew that Misty being honest with LE, meant all of their activities would come to light, then maybe they decided it wasn't worth it...especially if those activities played a part in the sequence of events that led to Haleigh disappearing, IMO anyway, I can see them deciding to just let a lot of it go. Why make things worse, by telling the truth? It wouldn't bring back Haleigh & they'd lose Jr too. IMO, some of this may have started in an attempt to make Ron look better than he was. There was controversy building up because of Misty's age, his arrest record was being examined, Geraldo asked him if he was a Nark, his work hours were being questioned, he was fired, etc...a lot was going on & then presto! he married Misty, & AS supplied him an alibi of sorts. He was at work & the kids were fine. never mind that she can't seem to keep straight what they were eating or wearing...IMO, it doesn't sound like she was there or saw the kids, but in all honesty, I don't think she's covering for murder. I think if they were protecting Ron, things would've played out a lot differently...no divorce, no kicking Misty out, no drug bust, etc...AS wouldn't have let either one of them out of her sight. I wish I could remember the exact sequence of events, AFTER Misty showed deception on Ron in the LVA test. IMO, Misty acted like she didn't have a concrete reason to suspect his involvement, but didn't know who to suspect. Plus, if Ron was involved in the aftermath, I guess that would cause deception. My problem with being objective, is I believe too much of what Misty has had to say. I know I shouldn't, because she has told some woppers, but I do believe a lot of her bunk. MOO.

Hey Dodie, I understand what you're saying but even if Misty was covering for some other activity that Ron was involved in, whatever it was IMO had to be linked directly to what happened to Haleigh....what illegal activity would've trumped finding the person who stole your child? Which still tells me that Ron needed to be saved for some reason. Add that to him not cooperating at some point with LE and the fact that even after his drug arrest LE still had questions for Ron about what happened to Haleigh. True enough, on Misty's falied test, she seemed unsure as to Ron's involvement, but you have to wonder why they even questioned her about Ron if he had been cleared of any wrong doing. I agree that maybe Misty was not there at all but even if that's the case, she still put herself in the middle of an investigation to save Ron. What a girlfriend, huh?

I think that if they were not protecting Ron, things would've played out differently...there would have been no marriage, Misty wouldn't have been staying with Ron, and they would not have still been together after the divorce. JMO

 

[Whisperer]

I have a feeling misty was not there when GGMa arrived at the MH. What she saw there will never be revealed. She may have seen the kids just ike she said. I think Haleigh would have been the one undressed not JR. They added JR so it would appear normal. Haleigh didn't like to wear clothes apparently. This has been said before.

Maybe the only thing GMA is covering is that RC left those kids unattended and that is why GMA was furious when she arrived. The bigger question is why didn't TN go if she got the call about this situation. Where was she that was so important she couldn't get to her grandchildren and had to resort to sending "A Family Member" to check it out.

What did GMA see when she arrived? Wish we all knew..

 

[dodie20]

I don't think I believe the kids didn't have shirts on. There have been too many stories about what Haleigh was wearing, & this is another one. Even a really bad babysitter wouldn't have let them eat outside without their clothes. What would the neighbors think? They could've called CPS! Haleigh & Jr were required by CPS to have their own rooms, so I would think they were required to wear clothes. This sounds like a convoluted story to explain why Haleigh's last outfit can't be remembered. Even though AS doesn't strike me as covering for murder, I don't believe her story of going to the trailer. IMO, it was made up & mixed up to give Ron an alibi...& when she was questioned about specifics, she had to have an excuse for not knowing what Haleigh was wearing. I think she went to the trailer, but not at the time she claims. I do believe she was mad at Ron for taking Misty back. She doesn't strike me as the mushy type, so Ron's feelings & immediate forgiveness of Misty, probably annoyed her. maybe she dropped by earlier & maybe she took laundry, but I don't believe the kids were eating outside, even then. & I get the nagging feeling that Ron was still home. IMO, she saw people questioning if Haleigh was harmed BEFORE Ron went to work, so she changed the time of her visit, to prove that the kids were at the trailer & ok AFTER he went to work. I don't guess the AC man supplied Ron the verification he needed. All of this is just MOO, in regard to the changing stories. MOO.