NOT GUILTY Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #6

[RichardKimble]

More than HCW had asked.

The Mirror confronted him as he left court after being convicted of insulting guards at the prison where he is serving his sentence. Chilling video captures the moment pale-faced Brueckner appears to smirk when we asked: “Did you abduct Madeleine McCann?” Another reporter asked Brueckner if he killed Madeleine.

Chilling moment Madeleine McCann suspect smirks when asked if he killed toddler

The Mirror confronted the paedophile as he left court after being convicted of insulting guards at the prison where he's serving his sentence - he remains the prime suspect in the disappearance

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Anxala]

Better if by February instead of September. But weird if only due to pay fines...

Court costs and existing fines maybe? Accumulated over the 7 years? Court costs don't come cheap and if he has no means of paying them or the fines, and has said as much, then maybe that's the 5 extra mths penalty imposed.

If it's illegal under German law to insult prison officials, then who knows what other likely 'breaches' he's committed over the years that have incurred fines that have mounted up over time.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Court costs and existing fines maybe? Accumulated over the 7 years? Court costs don't come cheap and if he has no means of paying them or the fines, and has said as much, then maybe that's the 5 extra mths penalty imposed.

Yes. But because of their dedication, rush and confidence that he would be free in September, I thought his various lawyers would not be stingy now and, proactively, would split and pay his bill.

In fact, maybe there may still be any supporters of him that could do it.

 

[Anxala]

Yes. But because of their dedication, rush and confidence that he would be free in September, I thought his various lawyers would not be stingy now and, proactively, would split and pay his bill.

In fact, maybe there may still be any supporters of him that could do it.

^ What are you referring to? Dedication? Rush? It was never up to them when he'd be released. The ending of his official term for the unrelated crime he's serving a sentence was always Sept and has nothing to do with them. As nor have the fines and court charges he now owes.

Stinginess? More like good ethical practice, I'd have thought, if not actually something that's verboten, a defence team paying off a client's prison fines.

 

[frank-cole]

Yes. But because of their dedication, rush and confidence that he would be free in September, I thought his various lawyers would not be stingy now and, proactively, would split and pay his bill.

In fact, maybe there may still be any supporters of him that could do it.

Imo -mirror might be wrong & he will be out in September.

Yes - plenty of people who would support him

 

[frank-cole]

Yes. But because of their dedication, rush and confidence that he would be free in September, I thought his various lawyers would not be stingy now and, proactively, would split and pay his bill.

In fact, maybe there may still be any supporters of him that could do it.

I get the vibe that today’s verdict for naughty words may be the perfect opportunity to project a notably bold appreciation of German law. Because if the MM case fails due to inadmissible evidence & one wants to feign that it meant they had nothing, one can nod back to their tough stance on the naughty word verdict & how much their views aligned with German justice.

Ergo consistency……

 

[frank-cole]

More than HCW had asked.

The Mirror confronted him as he left court after being convicted of insulting guards at the prison where he is serving his sentence. Chilling video captures the moment pale-faced Brueckner appears to smirk when we asked: “Did you abduct Madeleine McCann?” Another reporter asked Brueckner if he killed Madeleine.

Chilling moment Madeleine McCann suspect smirks when asked if he killed toddler

The Mirror confronted the paedophile as he left court after being convicted of insulting guards at the prison where he's serving his sentence - he remains the prime suspect in the disappearance

www.mirror.co.uk

He is never going to answer MM question’s vocally. If he starts yapping then at trial his failure to talk would be incriminating.

That’s why he’ll choose writing should he choose to answer.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

^ What are you referring to? Dedication? Rush? It was never up to them when he'd be released. The ending of his official term for the unrelated crime he's serving a sentence was always Sept and has nothing to do with them. As nor have the fines and court charges he now owes.

Stinginess? More like good ethical practice, I'd have thought, if not actually something that's verboten, a defence team paying off a client's prison fines.

Yes dedication to his defense in other cases so that he would not spend more years in prison and could be free in September. Yes, hurry, they said he could even be released before September.

Good ethical?!...well I won't even talk about that. FF's letter to Hazel before trial, the scar issue should speak volume. And for the fines, his bill, perhaps some funds will appear easily. Direct or indirect from someone/some.

 

[RichardKimble]

He is never going to answer MM question’s vocally. If he starts yapping then at trial his failure to talk would be incriminating.

That’s why he’ll choose writing should he choose to answer.

Answer to whom, German prosecutors aren't going to question him over MM, no more than I am imo.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

He is never going to answer MM question’s vocally. If he starts yapping then at trial his failure to talk would be incriminating.

That’s why he’ll choose writing should he choose to answer.

Yes.
And even writing, he should be more careful, because if he gets too excited...IMO his letters and drawings from the prison, in the past, were naive although not incriminatory.

 

[frank-cole]

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Yes dedication to his defense in other cases so that he would not spend more years in prison and could be free in September. Yes, hurry, they said he could even be released before September.

Good ethical?!...well I won't even talk about that. FF's letter to Hazel before trial, the scar issue should speak volume. And for the fines, his bill, perhaps some funds will appear easily. Direct or indirect from someone/some.

I agree - I wince at that shtick too. It’s slightly nauseating tbh.

I remember the hostility toward the prosecution literally started the day after the German’s made their announcement in 2020.

Trick is - for them, the defence aren’t just fighting for CB.

 

[frank-cole]

Yes.
And even writing, he should be more careful, because if he gets too excited...IMO his letters and drawings from the prison, in the past, were naive although not

Yes - he’s projects via writing & his mood is evidently a catalyst for this.

Obviously we know about his awful writings out of prison & the things he’s written in prison. In prison he appears to have outbursts (via writing) when he’s agitated & desperate. The 2 things that have triggered him are

1 - Reports he was ‘assaulting’ his animals
2 - When the dam was being searched

Nothing else has triggered him like the above, including the other searches & other claims about him. Which is interesting in itself.
His defence have clearly put a stop to him doing this & for CB’s sake that’s the right thing to have advised him to do.

 

[frank-cole]

Answer to whom, German prosecutors aren't going to question him over MM, no more than I am imo.

it’s been reported they’ve tried to speak to him a few times & he’s said nothing - but that hasn’t been substantiated.

But one occasion of questioning CB has been confirmed. The Germans, on behalf of the Portuguese, tried to interview CB. He refused to cooperate & remained silent for the entirety of the interview. One question they asked was “if you weren’t by the apartment that night where were you?”

 

[RichardKimble]

it’s been reported they’ve tried to speak to him a few times & he’s said nothing - but that hasn’t been substantiated.

But one occasion of questioning CB has been confirmed. The Germans, on behalf of the Portuguese, tried to interview CB. He refused to cooperate & remained silent for the entirety of the interview. One question they asked was “if you weren’t by the apartment that night where were you?”

Do you have a link to the questioning or is it media based?

 

[frank-cole]

Do you have a link to the questioning or is it media based?

Media

Clever move when you think about it because as they were questioning on behalf of the Portuguese police they didn’t need to disclose what their evidence is. It also enabled them to see how cooperative he would be. Talking beyond confirming his name will never happen. Because if he starts talking it would make failing to talk in further matters incriminating.

The part I’m interested in is whether CB talking in 2013 & then years later staying silent on advice from his lawyer will be a point raised.

What CB wouldn’t have known then is that he could say something that would end up catching him in a lie in the future. For example if he said he wasn’t in PDL on the day

Obviously if that hypothetical turns out true, we’ll see be many excuse for him on social media

 

[RichardKimble]

Media

Clever move when you think about it because as they were questioning on behalf of the Portuguese police they didn’t need to disclose what their evidence is. It also enabled them to see how cooperative he would be. Talking beyond confirming his name will never happen. Because if he starts talking it would make failing to talk in further matters incriminating.

The part I’m interested in is whether CB talking in 2013 & then years later staying silent on advice from his lawyer will be a point raised.

What CB wouldn’t have known then is that he could say something that would end up catching him in a lie in the future. For example if he said he wasn’t in PDL on the day

Obviously if that hypothetical turns out true, we’ll see be many excuse for him on social media

Much like when according to media reports at the time when OG through the PJ asked whether the three amigos had killed MM, 2014 if memory serves.

OG must have had strong suspicions which the BKA have now.

Suspects come and go, it'll be the same with CB.


Eleven people, including three Britons, were interviewed in December 2014. According to Portuguese media, Scotland Yard compiled 253 questions for the interviewees, including, "Did you kill Madeleine?" and, "Where did you hide the body?"Robert Murat, his wife, and her ex-husband were questioned, as were the former Ocean Club bus driver and his two associates who had telephoned or texted each other near the Ocean Club around the time of the disappearance. They admitted to having broken into Ocean Club apartments but denied having taken Madeleine.

Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[frank-cole]

Much like when according to media reports at the time when OG through the PJ asked whether the three amigos had killed MM, 2014 if memory serves.

OG must have had strong suspicions which the BKA have now.

Suspects come and go, it'll be the same with CB.


Eleven people, including three Britons, were interviewed in December 2014. According to Portuguese media, Scotland Yard compiled 253 questions for the interviewees, including, "Did you kill Madeleine?" and, "Where did you hide the body?"Robert Murat, his wife, and her ex-husband were questioned, as were the former Ocean Club bus driver and his two associates who had telephoned or texted each other near the Ocean Club around the time of the disappearance. They admitted to having broken into Ocean Club apartments but denied having taken Madeleine.

Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

It’s interesting that you try to disagree on my last point. If I said the world is a planet you say it’s a moon?

Looking at YouTube, the press coverage, what’s in print etc - I’d say the exposure to his name, face & criminal history is in the realm of 100 million.

We had a bloke who started stealing from where I work, he was South African. It took 3 weeks for somebody to identify him as somebody who’d committed serious sexual offences in South Africa 1 South African uni student recognised his face & subsequently clicked. That had thousands of people in Gloucester very aware (face went on Facebook) in a minute. World’s a small place now.

Imagine that but a million times worse.

CB being easily recognised in public is weirdly a very sore subject in the gossip clubs. I actually think that’s because they see a risk of information on location of remains increasing when he’s outside.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

It’s interesting that you try to disagree on my last point. If I said the world is a planet you say it’s a moon?

Looking at YouTube, the press coverage, what’s in print etc - I’d say the exposure to his name, face & criminal history is in the realm of 100 million.

We had a bloke who started stealing from where I work, he was South African. It took 3 weeks for somebody to identify him as somebody who’d committed serious sexual offences in South Africa 1 South African uni student recognised his face & subsequently clicked. That had thousands of people in Gloucester very aware (face went on Facebook) in a minute. World’s a small place now.

Imagine that but a million times worse.

CB being easily recognised in public is weirdly a very sore subject in the gossip clubs. I actually think that’s because they see a risk of information on location of remains increasing when he’s outside.

"Suspects come and go, it'll be the same with CB...."
All certainties here?

IMO NO, not this time. And again and again, even if he is not charged. He is involved (in MM) up to the ears.

IMO no matter many may want others to emerge (but still none...), no matter some want to try to be creative (to not use other word), he will never be free of suspicion (and he still may be charged). Because there was no other, there is no other and there will be no other.

Yes and Yes!
Let's see if it's not the other way around, when he is outside... if the confession of where he buried it won't come "easier" when he's out here.

 

[frank-cole]

"Suspects come and go, it'll be the same with CB...."
All certainties here?

IMO NO, not this time. And again and again, even if he is not charged. He is involved (in MM) up to the ears.

IMO no matter many may want others to emerge (but still none...), no matter some want to try to be creative (to not use other word), he will never be free of suspicion (and he still may be charged). Because there was no other, there is no other and there will be no other.

Yes and Yes!
Let's see if it's not the other way around, when he is outside... if the confession of where he buried it won't come "easier" when he's out here.

Yes, I don’t think an argument can be made that he’s the same as the rest. But the real trick is - they want CB to be as disconnected from the MM case as possible.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Yes, I don’t think an argument can be made that he’s the same as the rest. But the real trick is - they want CB to be as disconnected from the MM case as possible.

It needs proving that he is connected.