NOT GUILTY Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #6

[frank-cole]

It needs proving that he is connected.

It’s already happening & the sun documentary has accelerated it.

The trick is - An alt-theorist’s benchmark will always be higher than whatever the strongest piece of evidence is at the time.

So no need to fret

 

[RichardKimble]

It’s already happening & the sun documentary has accelerated it.

The trick is - An alt-theorist’s benchmark will always be higher than whatever the strongest piece of evidence is at the time.

So no need to fret

The "Sun" as an accelerant for a fire in the hearth is its worth.

 

[RichardKimble]

Yes, I don’t think an argument can be made that he’s the same as the rest. But the real trick is - they want CB to be as disconnected from the MM case as possible.

Who are they?

 

[Denis R Tandib]

It’s already happening & the sun documentary has accelerated it.

The trick is - An alt-theorist’s benchmark will always be higher than whatever the strongest piece of evidence is at the time.

So no need to fret

It looks like you are using the Sun documentary to confirm that no one else other than CB is responsible for MM’s alleged abduction.

There was nothing in that programme that showed a direct link between CB and MM.

 

[frank-cole]

It looks like you are using the Sun documentary to confirm that no one else other than CB is responsible for MM’s alleged abduction.

There was nothing in that programme that showed a direct link between CB and MM.

Thanks.

Convincing a long term flat earther that the earth isn’t flat isn’t going to happen. But not everybody is a wedded to a flat earth theory, therefore it won’t be a theory they’ll be fighting to maintain.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Thanks.

Convincing a long term flat earther that the earth isn’t flat isn’t going to happen. But not everybody is a wedded to a flat earth theory, therefore it won’t be a theory they’ll be fighting to maintain.

You may need a theory to justify your beliefs.

The facts of the case explain enough for me.

 

[frank-cole]

You may need a theory to justify your beliefs.

The facts of the case explain enough for me.

Flat earthers have their facts too

 

[Niner]

Thanks.

Convincing a long term flat earther that the earth isn’t flat isn’t going to happen. But not everybody is a wedded to a flat earth theory, therefore it won’t be a theory they’ll be fighting to maintain.

reminded me of this image....

 

[frank-cole]

reminded me of this image....
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There are a lot of parallels between the 2 conspiracies. Both are underlined by secret establishments & Government involvement.

I wonder how CB perceived other people literally putting in over a decade of effort to point in a direction that wasn’t him.

 

[Davieson]

There are a lot of parallels between the 2 conspiracies. Both are underlined by secret establishments & Government involvement.

I wonder how CB perceived other people literally putting in over a decade of effort to point in a direction that wasn’t him.

Nowhere near as much effort as those who consider him guilty, I imagine

 

[RichardKimble]

There are a lot of parallels between the 2 conspiracies. Both are underlined by secret establishments & Government involvement.

I wonder how CB perceived other people literally putting in over a decade of effort to point in a direction that wasn’t him.

There's been a good 8 yrs at least of trying to get evidence to get CB to court over MM, not very successfully it seems.

 

[frank-cole]

There's been a good 8 yrs at least of trying to get evidence to get CB to court over MM, not very successfully it seems.

It’s going to be a tall order without forensics.

A photograph of a deceased MM found amongst his belongings & written accounts describing the crime would be enough to say what they’re saying. It would also be enough to go to trial in the Uk, but maybe not in Germany, especially if admissibility is a factor.

As I’ve pointed out previously, the threshold for acceptance will always go beyond the strongest piece of evidence, therefore this evidence wouldn’t be enough for everybody. Neither would forensics & confession for that matter.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Flat earthers have their facts too

That categorically prove CB and MM crossed paths. There may be reasons to justify what you already think but there are no facts that confirm CB and MM ever came into contact with one another.

 

[frank-cole]

That categorically prove CB and MM crossed paths. There may be reasons to justify what you already think but there are no facts that confirm CB and MM ever came into contact with one another.

It’s irrational to expect every tick in the box after all this time. But I think we both know your threshold for ‘categorical proof’ will always be higher than the strongest piece of evidence. Therefore even with forensics & a confession the detectives still won’t have the categorical proof your after

 

[Denis R Tandib]

It’s irrational to expect every tick in the box after all this time. But I think we both know your threshold for ‘categorical proof’ will always be higher than the strongest piece of evidence. Therefore even with forensics & a confession the detectives still won’t have the categorical proof your after

One tick, one box. Pardon the pun but it’s like a box factory… an empty box factory, not a tick in sight.

If there are forensics and a guilty plea, I am won over. However, we are country mile away from that hypothetical standard.

 

[Davieson]

It’s irrational to expect every tick in the box after all this time. But I think we both know your threshold for ‘categorical proof’ will always be higher than the strongest piece of evidence. Therefore even with forensics & a confession the detectives still won’t have the categorical proof your after

Such needs to be brought forward before any assessment of their worth or value can be made

 

[RichardKimble]

One tick, one box. Pardon the pun but it’s like a box factory… an empty box factory, not a tick in sight.

If there are forensics and a guilty plea, I am won over. However, we are country mile away from that hypothetical standard.

It’s going to be a tall order without forensics.

A photograph of a deceased MM found amongst his belongings & written accounts describing the crime would be enough to say what they’re saying. It would also be enough to go to trial in the Uk, but maybe not in Germany, especially if admissibility is a factor.

As I’ve pointed out previously, the threshold for acceptance will always go beyond the strongest piece of evidence, therefore this evidence wouldn’t be enough for everybody. Neither would forensics & confession for that matter.

So let's go with the pretend image, did the BKA know at the time of its emergence it was obtained without a warrant if so why wait a good 8 yrs to see if it would be allowed in a court of law? do they not have a CPS that would brief on this? CB was given to them on a platter by HeB and friends in 2017, I doubt an images exists, why else no charges it's suggestive imo there's no more linking CB today than in 2017 least of all an imaginary image accept in the minds of a limited number of forumnites.

 

[johnlair]

It looks like you are using the Sun documentary to confirm that no one else other than CB is responsible for MM’s alleged abduction.

There was nothing in that programme that showed a direct link between CB and MM.

The direct link is known to German detectives and remains with them... The evidence shown from the box factory in the documentary is just tidbits that just show him and his obsession with the Dam, which take away the silly parents did it conspiracy is exactly where the Portuguese police should have been looking given the tip off from the criminal underworld at the time thats where she was...Just because they dont come out and blurt out what evidence they have is not a sign they have no evidence thats just backwards thinking... They are convinced 100% she is dead...murdered so read between the lines unless you just think they would lie about it... They know he did it but are lacking the p-h-y-s-i-c-a-l evidence to link him 100% ....they provably never will find the physical evidence now given that its 2025 much time has passed ... Maybe if the Portuguese police were not sniffing around the parents and writing books about them something might have been done at the time but it seems one guy had to fund his own searches of the Dam. Shame

 

[frank-cole]

One tick, one box. Pardon the pun but it’s like a box factory… an empty box factory, not a tick in sight.

If there are forensics and a guilty plea, I am won over. However, we are country mile away from that hypothetical standard.

None of you will ever be ‘won over’. Straight after I made the point, you can already see comments trying to argue a way around my hypothetical.

IMO the concrete evidence will be pictures & autobiographical. If that is true, how you guys dismiss that evidence is something you’ll have to work together to come up with.

 

[frank-cole]

The direct link is known to German detectives and remains with them... The evidence shown from the box factory in the documentary is just tidbits that just show him and his obsession with the Dam, which take away the silly parents did it conspiracy is exactly where the Portuguese police should have been looking given the tip off from the criminal underworld at the time thats where she was...Just because they dont come out and blurt out what evidence they have is not a sign they have no evidence thats just backwards thinking... They are convinced 100% she is dead...murdered so read between the lines unless you just think they would lie about it... They know he did it but are lacking the p-h-y-s-i-c-a-l evidence to link him 100% ....they provably never will find the physical evidence now given that its 2025 much time has passed ... Maybe if the Portuguese police were not sniffing around the parents and writing books about them something might have been done at the time but it seems one guy had to fund his own searches of the Dam. Shame

Well said.

That was shown in regards to Hazel. A lot of people questioned her account saying CB didn’t have a scar on his leg, however in the box factory finds that the judge wouldn’t allow, we could see that Hazel was absolutely right. Same goes for the masks the pics etc etc. if you took 100 randoms with no knowledge of the cases & went through this with them - very few would doubt, partly because they aren’t walking around with an agenda on their back.

There’s nothing that’ll change an alt-theorist’s mind.

Did you hear that the anti McCann gossip clubs are trying to raise money for CB’s prison fines?