NOT GUILTY Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #6

[Megnut]

But let’s see a shred of evidence that proves his guilt first.

Before a verdict.

They might not have enough admissible evidence to have confidence they can reach BARD.

This forum, however, isn't the court of law.

CB remains the lead POI and I personally think with good reason.

I understand your position and your theory to which you are certainly entitled. If charges are ever brought against CB and he does go before a jury, you'd be be right there at the Defense table rightfully challenging the State, demanding to see the shreds of evidence. Justice requires it.

JMO

 

[RichardKimble]

Before a verdict.

They might not have enough admissible evidence to have confidence they can reach BARD.

This forum, however, isn't the court of law.

CB remains the lead POI and I personally think with good reason.

I understand your position and your theory to which you are certainly entitled. If charges are ever brought against CB and he does go before a jury, you'd be be right there at the Defense table rightfully challenging the State, demanding to see the shreds of evidence. Justice requires it.

JMO

Go to the timeline of HCW in June 20 in various interviews he stated they had evidence and concrete at that ,that MM was dead and CB killed her, fast forward to Jan 25, HCW is quoted in a sky interview there was no prospect of charges any time soon, was the 2020 interviews pure bull? A recent BZ article has HCW quoted as saying that " there is no end in sight" in regards to the MM case, ergo they have nothing that would bear the scrutiny of a court.Not forgetting this includes all the recent supposed revelations of the evidence from the hard drives etc.

 

[Megnut]

Go to the timeline of HCW in June 20 in various interviews he stated they had evidence and concrete at that ,that MM was dead and CB killed her, fast forward to Jan 25, HCW is quoted in a sky interview there was no prospect of charges any time soon, was the 2020 interviews pure bull? A recent BZ article has HCW quoted as saying that " there is no end in sight" in regards to the MM case, ergo they have nothing that would bear the scrutiny of a court.Not forgetting this includes all the recent supposed revelations of the evidence from the hard drives etc.

Rbbm

I do think the strongest evidence against CB, who I believe is the lead POI responsible for MM's disappearance with good reason, is contained in that cache. I do think there is additional circumstantial evidence, just a far spell from BARD.

I think LE was confident about prosecution based on the cache evidence until another court deemed it inadmissible and that deflated convictable cases against CB, as we saw in the collapse of the recent one. Doesn't make him innocent, just means BARD came be reached, ergo innocent in the eyes of the law. But still potentially responsible. Still the front runner.

JMO

 

[Davieson]

Rbbm

I do think the strongest evidence against CB, who I believe is the lead POI responsible for MM's disappearance with good reason, is contained in that cache. I do think there is additional circumstantial evidence, just a far spell from BARD.

I think LE was confident about prosecution based on the cache evidence until another court deemed it inadmissible and that deflated convictable cases against CB, as we saw in the collapse of the recent one. Doesn't make him innocent, just means BARD came be reached, ergo innocent in the eyes of the law. But still potentially responsible. Still the front runner.

JMO

Surely if they were confident in 2020, concrete evidence and all that, then they would have charged him there and then.
The inadmissabilty issue was only raised years later, so that could not be the reason for not charging in 2020/21

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Surely if they were confident in 2020, concrete evidence and all that, then they would have charged him there and then.
The inadmissabilty issue was only raised years later, so that could not be the reason for not charging in 2020/21

HCW is on the record stating that they had enough evidence to charge CB… but they haven’t.

All the suggestion about the rape trial being a test for the admissibility of the box factory evidence is frankly far fetched.

If they had a photo, and/or enough evidence to charge CB for a crime against MM it is a certainty that they would have charged hm.

The way the case has unfolded shows that the case was founded on wishful thinking. The lies and refusal to either charge or drop the case are to try and protect the reputations of the prosecutors. It’s utterly poor form.

 

[RichardKimble]

Surely if they were confident in 2020, concrete evidence and all that, then they would have charged him there and then.
The inadmissabilty issue was only raised years later, so that could not be the reason for not charging in 2020/21

Unless they were advised by their own legal that it wouldn't hold up in court, but to temper that why test it when you had HaB and the two victims from the beach and playground incidents reliving their ordeals? It doesn't add up.But nothing from what is known about the factory raid involved the cases rather it might have an insight into CB imo this alone does not make him any way complicit in the MM case.

 

[RichardKimble]

HCW is on the record stating that they had enough evidence to charge CB… but they haven’t.

All the suggestion about the rape trial being a test for the admissibility of the box factory evidence is frankly far fetched.

If they had a photo, and/or enough evidence to charge CB for a crime against MM it is a certainty that they would have charged hm.

The way the case has unfolded shows that the case was founded on wishful thinking. The lies and refusal to either charge or drop the case are to try and protect the reputations of the prosecutors. It’s utterly poor form.

They probably rightly so consider CB to be dangerous but trying to keep him locked up on poor evidence does not show the German system in good light but I don't think their system is under the spotlight like ours is with the press itching for a scoop.The reporting of the tree felling being an example when scrutiny of the trade deal is probably more important.

 

[frank-cole]

It would seem that the best evidence against CB was found buried -- and ill got.

A photograph they can't use might explain everything. Confidence in whose responsible but leaves a weak case without it.

It's not like he backed up his backyard in the cloud. If they seized them without a warrant, they're not making it before a jury. IMO the recent case was the test case.

JMO

Yes imo what they have shows he comitted the crime.

They’re up against a part privately funded defence who are never going to be able to fight the full evidence - if the box factory finds were allowed at trial the defence would have been toast. The picture of the scar demonstrates this.

That’s why they’re attacking how evidence was obtained in order to have it ruled out.

I think people understand that evidence deemed inadmissible because of how it was found doesn’t mean no evidence existed. IMO the resistance is not a lack of understanding it’s a stubbornness to move away from a movement, especially when they’ve invested so much effort in.
It’s not about being rational or objective it’s about protecting something personal to them.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Yes imo what they have shows he comitted the crime.

They’re up against a part privately funded defence who are never going to be able to fight the full evidence - if the box factory finds were allowed at trial the defence would have been toast. The picture of the scar demonstrates this.

That’s why they’re attacking how evidence was obtained in order to have it ruled out.

I think people understand that evidence deemed inadmissible because of how it was found doesn’t mean no evidence existed. IMO the resistance is not a lack of understanding it’s a stubbornness to move away from a movement, especially when they’ve invested so much effort in.
It’s not about being rational or objective it’s about protecting something personal to them.

You might be well served applying those unpleasant comments to your own movement.

 

[frank-cole]

Yes .. and I’m struggling to comprehend the logic of a system that says evidence cannot be used more than once , in separate trials .. why not ?
Of course a legal system has to have standards and thresholds etc … but surely not to an extent that the system just becomes ineffective and allows criminals to walk free and victims be denied of justice .

You might be well served applying those unpleasant comments to your own movement.

If the Germans have a picture of MM deceased from CB’s computer and they share that information with the public. Will you accept that the McCann’s have actually been innocent all along?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

 

[JB1510]

What ever they have they are adamant

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[frank-cole]

What ever they have they are adamant

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IMO the only evidence it can be is photos or videos of a deceased MM found on his computer. Problem isn’t the evidence problem is whether another move can be made to have it inadmissible.

Going public with box factory finds may mean there’s no way to have it deemed inadmissible in the MM trial. Would be a shame for Cb & the alt-camp.

One things for sure - this man was absolutely obsessed with abducting little blond girls. As he wrote about extensively.

But that curtain ‘whooshing’ noise eh ……..

 

[RichardKimble]

What ever they have they are adamant

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Was this from 2020? It says 4 yrs ago so nothing new.

 

[RichardKimble]

I wonder what it is that convinces the lay person that MM was abducted by a paedo when there's no evidence in the public domain of such an act.

 

[Davieson]

I wonder what it is that convinces the lay person that MM was abducted by a paedo when there's no evidence in the public domain of such an act.

Its the Joseph Goebbels effect. Propaganda

 

[Lilly b]

Madeleine McCann suspect: Brückner faces a new unrelated charge - BBC News

Christian Brückner is the prime suspect in Madeleine McCann's disappearance in Portugal in 2007.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JB1510]

Apologies I uploaded the wrong video

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[frank-cole]

Madeleine McCann suspect: Brückner faces a new unrelated charge - BBC News

Christian Brückner is the prime suspect in Madeleine McCann's disappearance in Portugal in 2007.

www.bbc.co.uk

Interesting - imo I don’t have high hopes but I’m very sure there are other minor charges ready to be fired his way.

 

[JB1510]

Was this from 2020? It says 4 yrs ago so nothing new.

Have updated would be in interested in how you view HCW use of words and mannerism.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Madeleine McCann suspect: Brückner faces a new unrelated charge - BBC News

Christian Brückner is the prime suspect in Madeleine McCann's disappearance in Portugal in 2007.

www.bbc.co.uk

HCW confirmed no plans to charge CB for the MM crime.