Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #7

[kittythehare]

Old post of mine where MP gets fuzzy with his own different versions:

Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert

I don't disagree. That has no bearing on Mari exploiting her children and exposing them to terrible things. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk Mari's history has no bearing on the LAZY det's in the missing persons squad

www.websleuths.com

(Can't find the source right now for the info as per Pak about SG being in the kitchen but will keep looking for it and post if/when I find it.)

2011

A Serial Killer in Common

Five dead women turn up on a beach, and their families ask: Who murdered my daughter? Who was my sister — really?

nymag.com

 

[Warwick7]

It's just me, coming to you with some more boots-on-the-ground reporting...

I've been out on LI helping my elderly parents out with some stuff and took a little break to do some geocaching in Massapequa Park today. I haven't gone over there in a few years and it's far more overgrown than my brain remembered. I checked out Brady Park (where the woman who claims she was accosted on July 3rd by RH started her bike ride) and found an area that fits the “He had very dirty clothes on. He popped right out of the woods. Everywhere I went in the woods he would pop out somewhere,” description. It's where a few paved paths and dirt trails converge and a person could easily go unseen just feet away from the paths and "pop out" at you easily from multiple points and directions.

If the woman is correct, and the dirt smudged person who accosted her was Heuermann, my theory is that he was in these woods either scoping out a location for future "endeavors" or he was visiting something from his collection. There is an entrance to the park just down the street from his front door.

I would be shocked if Nassau/Suffolk/State PD would spend the money to have any cadaver dogs canvass this area. I'm taking a guess and going to say it's just not happening. Luckily (sarcasm), I already have chronic Lyme's Disease so I'm not afraid of ticks. I will bushwack and explore the area more in the near future once the dog days of summer pass.

Just want to add: I did not drive by the house out of respect for those still living there.

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Omg! That's thick with growth. I wasn't expecting that. That would be so creepy to run into him there. omg!

 

[kittythehare]

A 49-year-old former tenant of Brewer self-published a book titled Confessions of the Oak Beach Drifter in October under the pen name “W.” But not until the end of the nearly 300-page memoir—the author claims it’s partly fictionalized—does he mention living there, and casts suspicion on his landlord, “Damon Brooks.”

“There would be some times I would hear some ‘rough play’ with Damon and his ‘guests,’” he writes, referring to strippers and prostitutes frequently called to the house. “There was one particular night I was awakened by a woman screaming, ‘No! Please stop! Please, don’t do that!’ and that was followed by a loud thud. And then there was silence.”

Questions Remain in Long Island Serial Killer Case Two Years Later

By Timothy Bolger and Jaclyn Gallucci

www.longislandpress.com

 

[Warwick7]

Old post of mine where MP gets fuzzy with his own different versions:

Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert

I don't disagree. That has no bearing on Mari exploiting her children and exposing them to terrible things. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk Mari's history has no bearing on the LAZY det's in the missing persons squad

www.websleuths.com

(Can't find the source right now for the info as per Pak about SG being in the kitchen but will keep looking for it and post if/when I find it.)

This is what I'm talking about. I'm 1/2 way through Brewer's deposition, but I'm going to start over and keep track of the inconsistencies.

 

[kittythehare]

Old post of mine where MP gets fuzzy with his own different versions:

Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert

I don't disagree. That has no bearing on Mari exploiting her children and exposing them to terrible things. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk Mari's history has no bearing on the LAZY det's in the missing persons squad

www.websleuths.com

(Can't find the source right now for the info as per Pak about SG being in the kitchen but will keep looking for it and post if/when I find it.)

TIMELINE: Shannan Gilbert

The Shannan Gilbert Timeline Heres an unfinished Shannan Gilbert timline. Info on the years from 1986 to April/May 2010. The info on her movements on the night of April 30-May 1, 2010, is copy/past quotes from witnesses, phone records, sources with knowledge of the probe and media...

www.websleuths.com

 

[kittythehare]

This is what I'm talking about. I'm 1/2 way through Brewer's deposition, but I'm going to start over and keep track of the inconsistencies.

see this too Warwick

TIMELINE: Shannan Gilbert

The Shannan Gilbert Timeline Heres an unfinished Shannan Gilbert timline. Info on the years from 1986 to April/May 2010. The info on her movements on the night of April 30-May 1, 2010, is copy/past quotes from witnesses, phone records, sources with knowledge of the probe and media...

www.websleuths.com

 

[kittythehare]

A 49-year-old former tenant of Brewer self-published a book titled Confessions of the Oak Beach Drifter in October under the pen name “W.” But not until the end of the nearly 300-page memoir—the author claims it’s partly fictionalized—does he mention living there, and casts suspicion on his landlord, “Damon Brooks.”

“There would be some times I would hear some ‘rough play’ with Damon and his ‘guests,’” he writes, referring to strippers and prostitutes frequently called to the house. “There was one particular night I was awakened by a woman screaming, ‘No! Please stop! Please, don’t do that!’ and that was followed by a loud thud. And then there was silence.”

Questions Remain in Long Island Serial Killer Case Two Years Later

By Timothy Bolger and Jaclyn Gallucci

www.longislandpress.com

here is the book

Confessions of the Oak Beach Drifter by W - Ebook | Scribd

From growing up on the tough streets of Queens NY as a child to struggling with the realities of growing into an adult on Long Island NY, this story is about the trials and tribulations of a young man who tried to do the right thing in life but due to unlucky circumstances, chose a life of...

www.scribd.com

 

[kittythehare]

undated podcast on Confessions of Oak view Drifter..

‎LISK: Long Island Serial Killer: S2 Ep4: The Oak Beach Drifter on Apple Podcasts

‎Show LISK: Long Island Serial Killer, Ep S2 Ep4: The Oak Beach Drifter - Jul 27, 2021

podcasts.apple.com

 

[DSCrime]

According to Josh Zeman from The Killing Season, it sounds like Peaches and her baby may be identified! More info may be released in two weeks

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WOW! Josh Zeman says at round the 18:50 mark that Dave Schaller DID tell them on the documentary about the Chevy Avalanche.

The following is told by Zeman based on his review of documentary footage that didn't air:

Schaller said that he didn't see what happened on the night Amber Costello disappeared. However, according to Zeman, later in the interview footage, Schaller mentioned that Amber was being "stalked" by a huge man.

Starting at 19:18 mark, description given by Schaller of this huge man: "6'9", 300lbs, he's a monster, and he drove a green Avalanche"

Zeman said that he & Killing Season team missed this info. They missed it b/c they didn't think the stalker was related to the guy who actually ended up taking Amber Costello.

Edit: meant to add, Zeman basically says that they thought the guy who took AC would have been more careful

 

[kittythehare]

Old post of mine where MP gets fuzzy with his own different versions:

Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert

I don't disagree. That has no bearing on Mari exploiting her children and exposing them to terrible things. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk Mari's history has no bearing on the LAZY det's in the missing persons squad

www.websleuths.com

(Can't find the source right now for the info as per Pak about SG being in the kitchen but will keep looking for it and post if/when I find it.)

Kitchen link here but I can't open it

Gilbert vanishing reaches one-year mark​

Newsday
https://www.newsday.com › news › gilbert-vanishing-rea...



30 Apr 2011 — Jennifer Pottinger, who was the foster mother of Shannan Gilbert. ... Inside, Pak said Gilbert was standing near the kitchen holding her ...

 

[LadyL]

Just wanted to clarify that I'm not citing financial abuse as the reason AE is now continuing to live in the house, but rather a possible explanation why she and the kids had to sleep in a vehicle rather than a motel during the investigation of the house.

Your possible reasons why they are remaining in the house now that they are allowed back in all seem extremely plausible.

where is the info about her and the kids sleeping in a vehicle?

I googled and have read 4 different articles none of which mention it

 

[LadyL]

It's just me, coming to you with some more boots-on-the-ground reporting...

I've been out on LI helping my elderly parents out with some stuff and took a little break to do some geocaching in Massapequa Park today. I haven't gone over there in a few years and it's far more overgrown than my brain remembered. I checked out Brady Park (where the woman who claims she was accosted on July 3rd by RH started her bike ride) and found an area that fits the “He had very dirty clothes on. He popped right out of the woods. Everywhere I went in the woods he would pop out somewhere,” description. It's where a few paved paths and dirt trails converge and a person could easily go unseen just feet away from the paths and "pop out" at you easily from multiple points and directions.

If the woman is correct, and the dirt smudged person who accosted her was Heuermann, my theory is that he was in these woods either scoping out a location for future "endeavors" or he was visiting something from his collection. There is an entrance to the park just down the street from his front door.

I would be shocked if Nassau/Suffolk/State PD would spend the money to have any cadaver dogs canvass this area. I'm taking a guess and going to say it's just not happening. Luckily (sarcasm), I already have chronic Lyme's Disease so I'm not afraid of ticks. I will bushwack and explore the area more in the near future once the dog days of summer pass.

Just want to add: I did not drive by the house out of respect for those still living there.

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thanks so much for the 'boots on the ground' perspective
those woods look very creepy to be walking alone in ...

 

[Dre]

Throughout the day I find I’m constantly thinking of AE and her children and what fresh hell they’ve arrived in. It’s some of the worst pity I’ve ever felt.

Thinking about the grieving families of the victims, and the families waiting for more answers. I pray they get some relief from their pain.

 

[Boxer]

In your link RH's attorney says:

"The press has convicted my client without seeing a shred of evidence,” Michael Brown told reporters after the hearing, suggesting that prosecutors "very well could have the wrong guy."

Guess Brown doesn't know was a Bail Document is....

There is exactly a shred of evidence. Would that not be a good description of Heuermann's hair found in the burlap wrapping of the killed?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Old post of mine where MP gets fuzzy with his own different versions:

Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert

I don't disagree. That has no bearing on Mari exploiting her children and exposing them to terrible things. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk Mari's history has no bearing on the LAZY det's in the missing persons squad

www.websleuths.com

(Can't find the source right now for the info as per Pak about SG being in the kitchen but will keep looking for it and post if/when I find it.)

This one?
Post in thread 'TIMELINE: Shannan Gilbert'
TIMELINE: Shannan Gilbert

 

[imstilla.grandma]

*I’m trying to get all up into Michael Pak and found this interesting 2011 article to share:

As prostitution has shifted off the streets and into hotels and apartments, the drivers who transport prostitutes have emerged as some of the industry’s most powerful players. Sofia, who uses a pseudonym because she fears retribution from traffickers, said that when she was enslaved as a prostitute, her drivers organized her schedule, drove her to appointments and took half of her earnings before she turned over the remainder to her pimp.

“They are more important than the pimps because they’re the ones who decide everything,” Sofia said softly in Spanish. Her words were translated by a counselor and a lawyer from Sanctuary for Families, a nonprofit group that works with domestic violence victims. “I want all of them in jail, or back in their countries. I don’t want to see them working like this.”

“Who would have thought that black cars or livery cars were going to become a point in the issue of sex trafficking?” said the Council speaker, Christine C. Quinn, who noted that this would be the Council’s fourth hearing on sex trafficking this year. “We have to hit every way we can to crack down on that effort.”

Shining Light on the Role of Drivers in Prostitution (Published 2011)

As prostitution has shifted off the streets and into hotels and apartments, the drivers that transport prostitutes have emerged as some of the industry’s most powerful players.

www.nytimes.com

 

[kittythehare]

*I’m trying to get all up into Michael Pak and found this interesting 2011 article to share:

As prostitution has shifted off the streets and into hotels and apartments, the drivers who transport prostitutes have emerged as some of the industry’s most powerful players. Sofia, who uses a pseudonym because she fears retribution from traffickers, said that when she was enslaved as a prostitute, her drivers organized her schedule, drove her to appointments and took half of her earnings before she turned over the remainder to her pimp.

“They are more important than the pimps because they’re the ones who decide everything,” Sofia said softly in Spanish. Her words were translated by a counselor and a lawyer from Sanctuary for Families, a nonprofit group that works with domestic violence victims. “I want all of them in jail, or back in their countries. I don’t want to see them working like this.”

“Who would have thought that black cars or livery cars were going to become a point in the issue of sex trafficking?” said the Council speaker, Christine C. Quinn, who noted that this would be the Council’s fourth hearing on sex trafficking this year. “We have to hit every way we can to crack down on that I

I'm more interested in how the client was able to make direct contact with the driver who was
a- driving around
B outside playing video games
c god only knows..

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“There is somebody after me,” she told the dispatcher multiple times. “Somebody’s after me — please,” she said.

Gilbert didn’t specify where she was but said she was on Long Island. At times during the call, she was heard speaking to her driver and security, Michael Pak, saying “Please, get me out of here, Mike.”

At times during the 911 call, Brewer and Pak were heard speaking, trying to get her out of Brewer’s home.

“Come on, let’s go. We’ll all go outside,” Brewer was heard saying.

Gilbert added, “Please, get me out of here, Mike.”

Gilgo Beach murders: Suspect in Long Island serial killings in custody, officials say

Police arrested architect Rex Heuermann, 59, Thursday night in Manhattan.

www.cnbc.com

 

[lgh0309]

Well, because it's the smartest thing to do. They have no idea what kinds of challenges they'll be faced with (legal and otherwise). I find it really troubling that there's so much picking apart of his family- by all accounts so far they are victims too and had nothing to do with what their father is accused of. It's nobody's business how they are grieving, which relatives they are in contact with, whether they want to continue to live in the house, whether they've talked to Rex or plan to visit him in jail etc. None of you know the context for any of this and it feels like gawking and victim blaming.

i’d assume they are all still in serious shock and extreme pain to the extent of barely being able to do anything much less make decisions and move house

 

[lgh0309]

There is exactly a shred of evidence. Would that not be a good description of Heuermann's hair found in the burlap wrapping of the killed?

why don’t they just say “no comment” ‍regardless of what could hypothetically come out favorable to the defense they wouldn’t have it or have investigated themselves enough to discover it yet. premature to weigh in. MoO