Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 7 murders, July 2023 #17

[nhmemorymaker]

Well, I really have to hold my tongue because I harbor so much dislike for Asa as well as her murderous serial killer husband Rex. She is not a bright one, not at all, ....she is stupid-dumb in my opinion. Their daughter., she is their spawn so I will give her some grace....."apple doesn't fall far from the tree" . Asa... I think she is creepier than her husband. And now he wants to plead guilty because he has assessed all evidence against him.? What an utter pig, murderous and cruel pig "serial killer" that stole the lives of some beautiful women in tortuous manner's and I hope his health continues to deteriorate and he suffers greatly, and that dumb ass wife of his... I hope she has her comeuppance. UGH.

Well.... when are you going to hold your tongue???????
Just kidding. I get it.
I do feel much the same.... and have hoped more would come out to put her on the stake.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I meant the media. Sorry. Should've been specific

I would think to see if they could get a reaction from AE about her husband's upcoming alleged guilty plea? It looked like nobody has been living there in quite some time, looking abandoned and more derelict than ever, although there seems to be a car in the driveway. I thought it was a good reminder to see that house again.
MOO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Many women weigh what would happen to them if they're dependent on the man for their financial lifestyle,then having a husband or boyfriend being incarcerated, even if bonded out if CPS is involved then the accused one probably can't return to the home because the children.

Women in this position could lose just about everything thereby their abused children or the victims of crimes husband/boyfriend are jailed for become unimportant.

This case is so unthinkably evil on so many fronts that if AE did pick up clues throughout the years she obviously chose to ignore them.

I remain disappointed that she was given a pass by Harrison from the get-go and never sat for interrogations even though I admire him and his team for bringing in RH.

AE lived with RH for thousands of days and nights between her summer vacations which is when he carried out his torturous murders.
imo

How can any of them even stay in that house, given what transpired over all those thousands of days?
If you can do that.... then you knew what was going on.
In my mind, there is absolutely no way she wasn't well aware.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

BBM:
Yes! I didn't even think of that and it could be a treasure trove for LE for all levels of SA he may have inflicted on women throughout the years including murder.

I'm curious just how far his defense attorney Brown will push in the negotiations?
Like if a match pops up in CODIS he can't be prosecuted, if that is even possible to grant someone in a guilty plea.
Like a blanket pardon similar to what a president can bestow.
No matter what agreement they arrive at Judge Mazzei has to sign off on it.
imo

Codis could be a true treasure fountain.............
I can definitely see cutting off matches as part of the negotiations... but i sure hope not.
Maybe no prosecution...but identification ok.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

/S
She can sign another Peacock deal, collect another million for herself and $450,00 for each of her 2 children.
Then Peacock can hire a forensic therapist who will explain then and there to AE and the millions of viewers how AE was able to live with a serial killer who had a severe fixation on violent sexual fantasies including children, dismembering and murder and the possibility of having done so in her home all without her ever having a clue that something was amiss.
The message is there's nothing more to see here kids.

They'll diagnose AE as a classic victim meanwhile this victim has never once claimed she suffered any kinds of abuse by her husband, he was and remained her hero even with all the info available to her from the investigation.

I still believe that her attorney Macedonio and Michael Brown were in cahoots from the get-go.
They once were law partners and RH was assigned Brown on Friday the day after he was arrested and the next day, Saturday, Macedonio got in touch with AE and began representing her.
imo

grrrrrrrr.

 

[DS2021]

My understanding is that Tierney said no plea deal would be offered awhile back. It sounds like hes just pleading guilty with no plea deal

 

[nhmemorymaker]

maybe gout? Maybe they promised him better conditions/care if he would plead out...

gout was my first thought as well..................
so so painful.

 

[hot cawfeee]

The kitchen was weird too. I don’t recall what it was in the picture but it was definitely off. It just didn’t resemble a kitchen for a family of four.

Its his childhood home IIRC...I wonder if anything was changed ? An upgrade , new cabinets or redecorating ??

 

[hot cawfeee]

Will Asa and/or the children speak at RH's sentencing ?? Its chilling to think of her, their children possibly in a courtroom with the victims' families

 

[minazoe]

you can't convince me the kids didn't go snooping in that basement when no one was home. mOO

 

[SaraSmile]

NGL, I did not predict this turn of events. If I had wagered, I'd have put my money on Rex entertaining himself for the rest of his life with appeals and court processes.


But negotiating a plea deal is the smartest thing to do.


There are two materially beneficial reasons to plead guilty with the advocacy and advice of an attorney:


1) negotiate the sentencing terms, where incarcerated, what privileges, etc.
2) mitigate civil court exposure

John Ray is implying some of the harm done to victims might get buried and be less possible to sue for damages. Also, he is suggesting that family members may be civilly liable to harm to his clients and potential clients.

MOO

Does anyone know if the case files are released after he is sentenced? FOIA
Or if the files can be closed to the public sometimes? The defendant negotiates to be closed, embarrassment if family, close friends saw.
JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

I don't think she knew. I just don't think anyone would put up with the cold hard truth about RH. It started with him saving her, then getting pregnant and simultaneously accepting the rough sex swinger situation (it's not confirmed but it makes sense and there are several sources). Then accepting the safe sex with pros situation. Then accepting his strange room because he's lived there all his life and it's just HIS.

I imagine she has been worrying about the impact RH has on the rest of the family, deep down she knows that the kind of art work they stash is far from healthy as a back drop, soundtrack to your life.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Without saying too much. I have been there. And while some people think I'm stupid about some things and smart about others - I have the "ability" to stick my head in the sand and hope for the best when I really REALLY shouldn't. It's like the only just response to certain actions is the immediate abolishment of whatever relationship you're involved in (friends, romance, work) - but it's so hard to abandon the hopes and dreams you have integrated into your life. The algorithms you live by. It's the kind of strength that you need to break addiction.

So I can't judge Åsa. Just can't. But when she knows the truth she must do whatever is best for his victims - among those are her children but also the other innocents who have been killed or had their souls maimed by this evil freak.

IMHOO

Rex picked his wife, Asa who would look the other way, go along with anything and everything that Rex did, subservient type of wife. She probably lived in some fear of being with him, his size, maybe he even hit her sometimes. Plus, she relied on Rex entirely for his income, home. They had a disabled son, so that was a full time job for ASA. They seem to have led separate lives, in many ways, her whole summers in Iceland, vacations away, Rex “stayed home”.

Rex’s Big hobbies=> swinger parties, sex workers, then murder…

JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

Yeah. Except you think you can't survive if you can't maintain stability. And he is her source for stability. So more than overlooking, she is incorporating the avoidance of this topic into her being to the point where it's akin to the ability to walk/sleep etc. Something handled by the maintainance regions of the brain, like the brain stem, it handles basic needs stuff.

I'm not saying it's right at all, in fact I say get up and leave the moment something as alarming as swinger parties at home with a pregnant wife (allegedly) occurs. Get up, face the truth, leave. But I think there could be existential mechanism at work here.

IMHOO

You are right, it probably slowly snuck up on her, more and more “ hobbies” to overlook.
She got used to it. I still think she knew enough to speak up, but didn’t want to lose Rex’s income, home to live in. Also, I think she may have had battered wife syndrome, fear.
JMO

 

[PCHS]

Totally agree, Asa knew! That downstairs room, no one let in. Rex’s personality, busy with his “own activities” while family was on vacation elsewhere. I think, even the daughter knew. I don’t understand why Asa and daughter were not investigated more. The son, maybe did not know because of disability.

Anyway, good if Rex will plea out, LWOP. JMO

His daughter was in elementary school for some of this....And his wife appears to not be all there cognitively imo, with a history of being in abusive relationship that he basically swooped in and saved her/her disabled son from. Imo I believe in giving the wife/kids the benefit of the doubt, especially the children, who weren't even 10 when some of this was happening. What is normal to us individually, is often formulated by our lived experiences. He married someone who appeared to have her own cognitive issues (imo) and her own "off" lived experiences, and then his daughter was raised in the home where this is what she knew....a messy home in disrepair, parents with poor dental hygiene, a disabled brother, and a locked room in the basement with guns...who in even their off mind is going to leap to their father is a serial killer? By the looks of the home on the outside (disrepair) and their mannerisms if I was acquainted with them (ie neighbor), I wouldn't find them appealing people to socialize with but I wouldn't jump to he is a serial killer, nor would I think his kid should have know, when this is her only normal, even if they are all a bit off/weird.

 

[snooptroop88]

Snipped. Absolutely true! She lived thousands of days and nights in that tiny home with him where he planned, researched, prepared, sought after, spoke to, met up with, tortured, murdered and dismembered young women, yet says she didn't have an inkling of his lifestyle. And she insists on being in the courtroom so she can see and hear for herself the details of his crimes. I don't believe anything about her ignorance.
MOO

His daughter was in elementary school for some of this....And his wife appears to not be all there cognitively imo, with a history of being in abusive relationship that he basically swooped in and saved her/her disabled son from. Imo I believe in giving the wife/kids the benefit of the doubt, especially the children, who weren't even 10 when some of this was happening. What is normal to us individually, is often formulated by our lived experiences. He married someone who appeared to have her own cognitive issues (imo) and her own "off" lived experiences, and then his daughter was raised in the home where this is what she knew....a messy home in disrepair, parents with poor dental hygiene, a disabled brother, and a locked room in the basement with guns...who in even their off mind is going to leap to their father is a serial killer? By the looks of the home on the outside (disrepair) and their mannerisms if I was acquainted with them (ie neighbor), I wouldn't find them appealing people to socialize with but I wouldn't jump to he is a serial killer, nor would I think his kid should have know, when this is her only normal, even if they are all a bit off/weird.

Totally agreed on benefit of the doubt, jmo, he was divorced when he hooked up with AE, I'd imagine him being a complete psycho had to have been a factor on the first marriage ending. He evidently didn't want to stop being that way or couldn't, and shopped around for a perfect SK wife. And he probably sealed the deal by demanding she "give him his space." I doubt she felt like arguing with Gun Room Rex. Looking up women that will marry SKs. Seeing SKs might gravitate towards a woman who travels for work

So AE likes to travel, trips to Iceland are guaranteed to be long,, clearly she goes elsewhere as well, and she evidently had a difficult past. Question. How much did he travel for work? He certainly traveled plenty with his hunting and Vegas and SC, but I'm guessing he may also have traveled for his job. I know he attended conferences/seminars and such because he mentioned at least one such instance in a vehicular lawsuit. And I doubt she went with him on all of these famous hunting trips. He's got a demanding job, exactly how much time did these two really spend together?

Just went back into his log that was in one of the bail documents, and seeing this:

There's this "Amity Meeting." Amity, the town of Amity? That's way up in New York near the PA border 75 miles from Buffalo & Rochester. And there's a shooting range in Rochester ON Amity St. Now, ok, there are bound to be "Amitys" in NYC, too, but this is at 6pm, these later time slots during the week seem to be when he's off work, and another such late-in-the-weekday entry on that log is for some gun club event. And there's that entry Rabco re: cooling tower. Here's why I'm doing a ginormous double-take on that right now. When I was researching for how he may have been using that truck as a mobile kill station, I remember specifically being navigated into reading about cooling towers. You can equip a truck with one. So just looked up Rabco, there are a few Rabcos with different purposes, certainly there are a couple he might have been in legitimate contact with for his company. But the first Rabco that came up, that is a boat company in Clearwater FL. They make skiffs, these can be used for duck hunting. You can equip one of those with a cooling tower. (And you can do the same with a truck.) Probably the Rabco's a different engineering-related Rabco, but it's just reminding me of the fact that we really haven't heard much of anything about his travels. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. HK actually WAS buying some kind of cooler unit for either boat or truck. And not just to cool off.

RH deceived a lot of people, LE had a heckuva time getting him, it's entirely possible jmo he deceived her too. The only thing that has always made me really wonder with AE was that "Stockholm Syndrome" note on HK. I mean, who's that referring to? We don't know, but perhaps some party other than her. That "Stockholm Syndrome" note along with the cash register mentality and the lack of empathy towards the victims is worrisome and gross. But she's a traveler, and so is he, and that could be a strong motivator for him to feel like he can do as he pleases. Between his job, her job then illnesses, his travels and her travels, I'd wonder exactly how much time these two really spent together. She knew him when he was younger, she just may have felt she knew all there was to know, and just accepted his absences without question. It sounds like she went out of the frying pan into the fire in terms of her personal situation. I'd find her a lot more sympathetic if she hadn't Peacocked her way into financial stability, hurting a lot of people in the process, but jmo.

 

[Forest_Wood]

you can't convince me the kids didn't go snooping in that basement when no one was home. mO

Or the wife!

 

[Ruminations]

Or the wife!

It's not snooping; that was home to more than just Rex.

MOO

 

[PCHS]

We don't know what she was like before RH was arrested and it became international news.
All we saw is the face and actions she wanted to show the public.
Yesterday I posted an old interview with her lawyer and Chris Cuomo where Macedonio said there were marital problems and she had considered divorcing him.

What were those marital problems Asa?
Things you caught him doing throughout the years that you chose to ignore and then they were thrown back in your face when faced with what the prosecution found during their investigation?

I see her as becoming his loving public defender as a ruse to try and protect herself and that she thinks it's the proof needed to convince her critics that the RH she was married to for 27 yrs can not be the man the state accuses him of being.

Exclusive | Wife of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann says he’s her ‘hero’ — and reveals creepy take on first jailhouse visit

“I know what bad men are capable of doing,” Asa Ellerup told the show, which begins airing Tuesday. “I’ve seen it, and I’ve heard it from other men. Not my husband. You have the wrong man.”…

nypost.com

"The wife of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann says he’s her “hero’’ — and that it was like falling in love with him all over again when she first saw him behind bars."

That was her strategy because she had warnings and maybe even evidence of his ways for years.

There was a private AE that we will never know about and then the public AE that I'm all too aware of.

Macedonio said numerous times that all AE has to go on is what the media reports and she's waiting for evidence.
He was never asked by reporters then she hasn't even read his bail document?

659083418-Rex-Heuermann-Gilgo-Beach-murder-suspect-bail-documentation

www.documentcloud.org

IMO

I saw her interviews - her demeanor, communication, rationalization, thought processes seemed off - and reminded me a bit of her son who apparently also has a cognitive disability. She was in a bad abusive situation and reports are he basically swooped in and rescued her. She spoke of him as if she was in awe of him, absolutely devoted to him, which must have been great for him because from what I understand he was not socially that adept or had lots of girls (know he was married once before) - he himself was a bit of an outcast. She was the perfect wife for him, someone easy to trick, who seemed to have an off sense of normal or ability to advocate for herself, who needed to be cared for. They lived in a home with outside disrepair, had poor dental hygiene (she was missing/rotting teeth as was he) and I don't see her as really questioning much including the locked gun room/closet in the basement. The house being a mess also helped create more distraction/ease in disguising things. The kids? His daughter was raised in this and seems unusual, but that doesn't = knowing/or in any way really thinking her father is a serial killer. To me - there is a big leap from being weird, slovenly (Asa/Rex), to being a serial killer. If I were their neighbor, I would have likely avoided them as they seem odd, but I wouldn't conclude he was a serial killer. I think we have the advantage of having different lived experiences, different cognitive abilities imo then the wife, and we have the advantage to knowing who he is now, to be able to identify things that seemed off and should have stood out. But in the moment people aren't necessarily jumping to that radical of a conclusion. And I don't blame his daughter for starting out in denial - I don't believe anyone I care deeply for is capable of this and it would take a lot to bring me to a different conclusion. If he was nice to her and kept a different façade, it is going to take time for her to get there and she will likely need extensive therapy I would think. If his wife had knowledge/involvement I would thin LE would be targeting her as well, what influence does she have to get away with it? I do believe his attorney would absolutely solidify her with his partner reaching out to coordinate/represent. This continues to keep her in control, which I believe he looked to do through his process.

 

[snarast]

Rex picked his wife, Asa who would look the other way, go along with anything and everything that Rex did, subservient type of wife. She probably lived in some fear of being with him, his size, maybe he even hit her sometimes. Plus, she relied on Rex entirely for his income, home. They had a disabled son, so that was a full time job for ASA. They seem to have led separate lives, in many ways, her whole summers in Iceland, vacations away, Rex “stayed home”.

Rex’s Big hobbies=> swinger parties, sex workers, then murder…

JMO

I’m guessing but I think he saw a person he could manipulate - it’s just the classic love bombing scenario - followed by systematically increasing elements of that ”other thing” that she attributes to being a ” red blooded man” and possibly that need for constant new experiences/ladies that is pretty commonplace.

Her son is from her first marriage as I recall. She was abused there and HK-man ”rescued” her and her little son. Big burly well to do architect marries a girl with perhaps issues, no career to speak of and a toddler with special needs.

IMHOO

 

[snarast]

I saw her interviews - her demeanor, communication, rationalization, thought processes seemed off - and reminded me a bit of her son who apparently also has a cognitive disability. She was in a bad abusive situation and reports are he basically swooped in and rescued her. She spoke of him as if she was in awe of him, absolutely devoted to him, which must have been great for him because from what I understand he was not socially that adept or had lots of girls (know he was married once before) - he himself was a bit of an outcast. She was the perfect wife for him, someone easy to trick, who seemed to have an off sense of normal or ability to advocate for herself, who needed to be cared for. They lived in a home with outside disrepair, had poor dental hygiene (she was missing/rotting teeth as was he) and I don't see her as really questioning much including the locked gun room/closet in the basement. The house being a mess also helped create more distraction/ease in disguising things. The kids? His daughter was raised in this and seems unusual, but that doesn't = knowing/or in any way really thinking her father is a serial killer. To me - there is a big leap from being weird, slovenly (Asa/Rex), to being a serial killer. If I were their neighbor, I would have likely avoided them as they seem odd, but I wouldn't conclude he was a serial killer. I think we have the advantage of having different lived experiences, different cognitive abilities imo then the wife, and we have the advantage to knowing who he is now, to be able to identify things that seemed off and should have stood out. But in the moment people aren't necessarily jumping to that radical of a conclusion. And I don't blame his daughter for starting out in denial - I don't believe anyone I care deeply for is capable of this and it would take a lot to bring me to a different conclusion. If he was nice to her and kept a different façade, it is going to take time for her to get there and she will likely need extensive therapy I would think. If his wife had knowledge/involvement I would thin LE would be targeting her as well, what influence does she have to get away with it? I do believe his attorney would absolutely solidify her with his partner reaching out to coordinate/represent. This continues to keep her in control, which I believe he looked to do through his process.

The daughter had no choice at all, especially with someone who is manipulative, cunning and probably idolizes her - since she looks like him. Only smaller and cuter. She likely idolised him right back.

My father was certainly my first Idol.

IMHOO