Exactly. It is taught around spring break of the second grade.
Girl wins contest with false essay about soldier dad...
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Thanks everyone. I wasn't sure when they started teaching that these days. I know I didn't learn it till second or third grade.
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Playing devil's advocate here-I think I would have taken dictation from my 6,7 or 8 year old to help her enter a contest. I would not have allowed her to fabricate a story if there was no indication that it was a "story." But there is some kind of insanity regarding Hannah Montana that has passed me by...why would anyone pay 1300.00 to gratify some child's wish to see a fictitious rock star? Why would anyone encourage their child to commit a deceit to win tickets? We have too much money in this country if this kind of environment exists-I think that the child and parent(s) should do some kind of community service to get a sense of what is really important...giving to your fellow man. IMO.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!! You all just cracked me up!!!
I do agree the mother is a lousy role model. All said and done I feel badly for this 6 yo. and the seemingly stupid adults in her life.
I include the company in that. They should not have given the prize without confirming the story if they intended it to be true.
They further should not have said upon learning it was untrue that they would not deny her the prize and then turned around and did exactly that.
I do understand that children most often do suffer from their parents bad choices ... so I guess its a lesson learned..
Really this entire thing has been blown WAAAAY out of proportion IMO.
It is however excellent publicity for Miley. (What is the saying?? Any publicity is good publicity?)
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I think the company should have first verified the story, too. But, their oversight was based perhaps on the idea that people are basically good and that it is true that some children have lost their daddy's in Iraq. However, the mother's actions were based on lies, cheating, teaching her daughter how to be a bad person, selfishness, and a complete lack of morals or truth. There is a huge difference, and the fault lies with the liar, imo.
Hey, Amra, can we be so honored to get some pics of you in your lovely white-haired wiggy?
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Hey, Amra, can we be so honored to get some pics of you in your lovely white-haired wiggy?
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I think the company should have first verified the story, too. But, their oversight was based perhaps on the idea that people are basically good and that it is true that some children have lost their daddy's in Iraq. However, the mother's actions were based on lies, cheating, teaching her daughter how to be a bad person, selfishness, and a complete lack of morals or truth. There is a huge difference, and the fault lies with the liar, imo.
Hey, Amra, can we be so honored to get some pics of you in your lovely white-haired wiggy?
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Sure!!!
http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/amraann/?action=view¤t=meandmedit.jpg
That is about as white as my hair gets
Its red now and that pic is about 10 years old.
I think the company should have first verified the story, too. But, their oversight was based perhaps on the idea that people are basically good and that it is true that some children have lost their daddy's in Iraq. However, the mother's actions were based on lies, cheating, teaching her daughter how to be a bad person, selfishness, and a complete lack of morals or truth. There is a huge difference, and the fault lies with the liar, imo.
Hey, Amra, can we be so honored to get some pics of you in your lovely white-haired wiggy?
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The child should be removed. all children with parents not up to the job should be removed.
I find it interesting that some want to shield the little girl from discomfort. Kids just don't always get what they want and to teach her otherwise is just not right.She will learn about disappointment throughout her life and there is much bigger lesson learned here for her. Honesty is the best policy, cheaters never prosper, things like that. I think it would be a bigger disservice to her if she were to be awarded the prize.
She'll be sad and let down, but that is how we learn. I think our society in general tries to shield our kids from feeling "bad". I know I tried to do it when my kids were little, but finally figured out that did not benefit them in any way. They become ill prepared to cope when things don't go their way. 6 is not too young to understand these basic concepts.
I agree that this thing has been blown out of proportion. She should have quietly been denied the prize and that should have been the end of it.
She'll be sad and let down, but that is how we learn. I think our society in general tries to shield our kids from feeling "bad". I know I tried to do it when my kids were little, but finally figured out that did not benefit them in any way. They become ill prepared to cope when things don't go their way. 6 is not too young to understand these basic concepts.
I agree that this thing has been blown out of proportion. She should have quietly been denied the prize and that should have been the end of it.
Thanks Taximom!!!
Floh?? Ideally I agree with you ... but who decides what parents should lose their children? Your morals or mine? Your religion or mine?
And what do we do with these children?
As it is there is not enough places for children who are seriously abused and DCF has a lousy track record IMO.
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??? Perhaps I misunderstood, but this is kind of an ominous statement to me.
Removed to where?
I don't think any of us are completely up to the job. Obviously, some parents must not be allowed to be with their children, but this mother doesn't seem all that horrible from what we know. Bad enough to have a prize taken away, yes, but not bad enough to have the little girl taken away.
Plus, I still think the little girl didn't even know about the existence of that essay/"Christmas story" until she was at the event.
Yes, you're getting the picture. where would the children be taken? how much would it cost? who pays? who would decide? what would make the decider right?
from what i can see here this mother has been judged to be a terrible parent. the family won't be forgotten and for the rest of her life the daughter will be associated with the wrong doing. the internet is a powerful tool. this child's mother is hated internationally now.
pretty grim thing for the youngster to deal with.
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Sure!!!
http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/amraann/?action=view¤t=meandmedit.jpg
That is about as white as my hair gets
Its red now and that pic is about 10 years old.
OT: Amra, what a beautiful picture! Happy New Year's!'
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Ominous and appalling. but the mother has been clearly judged to be unfit, so what's the answer?
put mother into a pillory? a wooden contraption with a holes for the head and hands to expose her to personal public abuse?
What makes a parent bad enough to have their child taken away? this thread certainly would appear to give the message this particular mother is unfit.
removed to where? places can be set up. role models appointed.
brave new world . . .
Oh, now I get it. I'm slow:blushing:
What makes a parent bad enough to have their child taken away? this thread certainly would appear to give the message this particular mother is unfit.
removed to where? places can be set up. role models appointed.
brave new world . . .
This thread has been about whether the prize should be awarded to this mother and daughter and about the poor role model the mother has been in this incident. No one here has seriously said anything about taking away the child. Now, if you look on other threads and the mom's bebo page, you see some really disturbing remarks. But we are all sensible here.
