Glimpses into Casey's Frame of Mind During Solitude *REVISITED*

[LambChop]

I always thought this was BS or confusion on TL's part. TL stated that KC only brought clothing items to his apartment. KC is a human parasite and was there to attach herself to her new host (TL) so she could benefit at his expense. I really doubt she brought a video of "snot nose at the smelly nursing home" to her new lover's apartment. She was without close friends, job, money, and a roof over her head. She desperately needed a new parasitic host and therefore, would only have participated in activities that met her goal of becoming TL's live-in girlfriend. She considered herself to be an invisible, irresistible seductress as evidenced by her downloading the painting of Salome. Irresistible seductresses that are seeking a new parasitic host would not watch a video of a "snot nose" at the potential new victim's home.

I believe the video was on the laptop KC had with her. jmo

 

[Pensfan]

But she brought Caylee herself to his home. At least he says she watched the video of Caylee at his place, too, and was crying, we only have his word for it.
Trying to attach herself to Tony L to benefit at his expense? In what way?!! LOL She was the one bringing food to his house and feeding him, working for him free at his promotions, too. When she ran out of gas he broke the lock on her father's shed to get gas rather than putting a few dollars worth of gas in her tank himself! The only thing she ever got from TL was a slice of cheesecake and him and his friends teasing her in a mean way. Why she hung around there for any time at all is beyond me, maybe enamored with the idea of getting into event promotions or enjoyed the contact with his friends who were in bands etc? Or something else entirely? She wasn't staying there for any kind of gain that we know of. She'd always been able to go back to her parents' house before, and had been staying at JP/RM/AH's place shortly before, even after breaking up with RM I guess, so the fact she didn't go back to either of those places during this time frame is curious. For some reason she could stay at TL's.
The only time the term "snot nose" was ever used that we know of was when Casey was letting Tony R know she wasn't coming over to his place. This term appeared to be used jokingly like "rug rat" or "ankle biter", maybe there had been discussion of Caylee having a runny nose for all I know (like when she was talking to Amy about Caylee having a cold) (kids of that age have runny noses so much!). I don't like the term myself at all, some families use terms like this all the time, Casey's mom also said on Caylee's birthday video, "Your butt is going in a bath" or something like that, I don't use terminology like that but lots of families do, maybe Tony R used this term, we don't know. Friends of Casey's said they'd never heard the nickname "snot nose" used by Casey, only "munchkin".

I'm not sure if Casey saw herself as a great seductress... we know she HATED doing the "hot body" contest dance, for example. Tony or his promotions group were trying to get her to do it (just because they had to have someone), she said in the texts or emails that she would NEVER do it again, witnesses said she had to drink shots to be able to do it, etc. It sounds from all the texts and communications with Amy that Casey had a healthy interest in boys, enjoyed meeting boys, enjoyed sex, but I don't know if she saw herself as a great seductress. Who knows, maybe.

the element of the decapitated head in Salome, that is interesting, just like the skulls and so on.

Bolded by me.
She COULDN'T go back to her parents or friends houses to live because she had murdered Caylee. Her friends and family would eventually demand to know where Caylee was located. TL's apartment was the only place she could live without bringing suspicion about Caylee's disappearance therefore, TL had the only roof and shower that KC could utilize. She was also using his Jeep for transportation because her car smelled of Caylee's dead body. Because TL was in charge of the "shot girls" at the club, being TL's lay and "helper" at the club would have given her benefits of free drinks and free club admission (if admission was ever charged for bands). Being TL's lay might have given her access to free drugs.

After seeing KC's party photos, very few would believe that she had to be "encouraged" to be in a hot body contest. She manipulated her male companions into believing she needed vodka shots so they would provide her with free drinks. KC didn't have a job to earn money for to pay for her own drinks. Being a narcissist, she took every opportunity to tell anyone that would listen how she was "begged" by a group of males to be in a hot body contest.

 

[Turnadot]

All the people who knew Casey and Caylee say Casey was very attached to Caylee and vice versa, every witness says Casey was loving and a good mother toward Caylee, etc.

Snipped and BBM with respect.

KC passed Caylee off to go party. A lot, imo.
KC took Caylee out partying, and those there, suggested to KC that perhaps bringing her toddler to a party wasn't a good idea.
KC let druggies tend to Caylee.
KC did not support her child, or even tend to the daily things. IIRC, it was Cindy who made sure Caylee was bathed and fed.
KC stole Amy H's money and bought items for herself, and none for Caylee.
KC did not assist LE in finding Caylee. In fact, she lied to them every step of the way, about everything.
KC called home from jail and her concern was getting her BF du jour's phone number. No concern for Caylee. When a friend sobbed her concern to KC about Caylee, KC's reply was, 'Oh well.'
KC claimed Nanny Zani kidnapped her child (pick your version of how, there's been a few) yet KC showed no signs of distress when she was around her friends, according to them*.
KC got a tat, partied, got her nails done, rented movies with TL. Went about her life while Caylee was "kidnapped". I don't buy the assertion that KC wasn't concerned because she assumed Caylee was in safe hands. By her own words, she was worried and investigating. See this report. Specifically, my reference is on page 9: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/17778235/Casey-Anthony-FULL-Computer-report
31 days.


Actions speak louder than words, or in KC's case, inaction.




*I'm willing to concede that those times TL came upon KC at night, she was crying over the loss of Caylee, but Susan Smith cried over the loss of her boys, too. You know what though...she's still a murderer.

 

[Reagan]

1) Lambchop is right. She was supposedly sitting on the edge of the bed "crying". TL described her crying as the pathetic cry she had during the Grand Jury Indictment presser with Jose.

2) KC was indeed getting free shots on TL's behalf. He told her that she could buy a few drinks on his tab and was PO'd that she spent what I think was $50-$75? Someone correct me on this.

3) Just because it was never reported by anyone that Caylee was "abused" doesn't mean she wasn't. KC strikes me at the type that would probably pinch Caylee, flick her in the face, pull at her hair or things of that nature. She probably ignored Caylee a lot which could be considered abuse. I have no evidence of this obviously, but I just get that vibe from KC.
Also, I know kids get beat up every now and again, but there are a few pics of Caylee with a black eye, on different sides at different times (excluding the one where Ricardo actually witnessed Caylee bump into the table approx Jan 08.

 

[seekingjustice**]

KC passed Caylee off to go party. A lot, imo.
KC took Caylee out partying, and those there, suggested to KC that perhaps bringing her toddler to a party wasn't a good idea.
KC let druggies tend to Caylee.
KC did not support her child, or even tend to the daily things. IIRC, it was Cindy who made sure Caylee was bathed and fed.
KC stole Amy H's money and bought items for herself, and none for Caylee.
KC did not assist LE in finding Caylee. In fact, she lied to them every step of the way, about everything.
KC called home from jail and her concern was getting her BF du jour's phone number. No concern for Caylee. When a friend sobbed her concern to KC about Caylee, KC's reply was, 'Oh well.'
KC claimed Nanny Zani kidnapped her child (pick your version of how, there's been a few) yet KC showed no signs of distress when she was around her friends, according to them*.
KC got a tat, partied, got her nails done, rented movies with TL. Went about her life while Caylee was "kidnapped". I don't buy the assertion that KC wasn't concerned because she assumed Caylee was in safe hands. By her own words, she was worried and investigating. See this report. Specifically, my reference is on page 9: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/17778235/Casey-Anthony-FULL-Computer-report
31 days.


Actions speak louder than words, or in KC's case, inaction.


ITA with you Turnadot.. and can I just add, last but not least-
how many great mothers have sex with a boyfriend, while their toddler is in bed next to them!!!

 

[Turnadot]

1) Lambchop is right. She was supposedly sitting on the edge of the bed "crying". TL described her crying as the pathetic cry she had during the Grand Jury Indictment presser with Jose.

2) KC was indeed getting free shots on TL's behalf. He told her that she could buy a few drinks on his tab and was PO'd that she spent what I think was $50-$75? Someone correct me on this.

3) Just because it was never reported by anyone that Caylee was "abused" doesn't mean she wasn't. KC strikes me at the type that would probably pinch Caylee, flick her in the face, pull at her hair or things of that nature. She probably ignored Caylee a lot which could be considered abuse. I have no evidence of this obviously, but I just get that vibe from KC.
Also, I know kids get beat up every now and again, but there are a few pics of Caylee with a black eye, on different sides at different times (excluding the one where Ricardo actually witnessed Caylee bump into the table approx Jan 08.

BBM

The very fact that we can all even bandy about why a mother of an alleged kidnapped child was crying should be enough to give anyone pause, imo. Thing is, her crying could have been guilt over murdering Caylee. It could have been over the loss of Caylee. It could have been over TL. It could have been...

This is not a no-brainer. It should be.

 

[Turnadot]

how many great mothers have sex with a boyfriend, while their toddler is in bed next to them!!!

Snipped with respect.

Excellent point.

Maybe it's just me, but I put far, far more weight on what KC did while she was a mother, than witnesses saying she was a good mother. Looking at her behaviour, she was a terrible mother, imo.

 

[KeyboardCat]

I do beleive that CA, GA and LA also know what she has done and I beleive that they all are at this point simply trying to save her life. I think they all love Caylee, I think KC acted out of rage and that CA feels like she is just as responsible because of the fight. I think CA is supporting KC out of guilt and GA is supporting CA and KC because he loves them but is torn because of what has transpired.

I also believe that is why Cindy so violently defends Casey. She's not just defending Casey, she's defending herself too.

I believe that Cindy is plagued with guilt, and reacts to it by denials and aggression to anyone who believes Casey is a murderer. Its fairly easy to imagine the thoughts that have went through Cindy's mind. "If I wouldn't have angered Casey so much that night, she wouldn't have left. And I would still have my Caylee." Or: "If I would have fought for custody of Caylee, she would still be here with us." She has obviously tried very hard (ridiculously at times) to find a way to show that Casey did not or could not commit this crime. I think Cindy feels that if Casey is found not guilty, then Cindy is not guilty also, even though her heart knows better.

Edit: Please forgive my off topicness.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

Snipped with respect.

Excellent point.

Maybe it's just me, but I put far, far more weight on what KC did while she was a mother, than witnesses saying she was a good mother. Looking at her behaviour, she was a terrible mother, imo.

Or how about the videos of Caylee, such as 1-2-3 Cheese, where the person filming Caylee refuses to speak to her or interact with her in any way, other than keeping her in direct view of the camera, no matter how hard Caylee tries to draw a response...?

IIRC, in one video, you can see in the mirror that Casey is the one filming Caylee, and IMO, it is also Casey who ignores Caylee's attempts to interact with the person behind the lens in the other videos.

Caylee is trying everything to say anything she can think of to get the person filming her to reply, to make any sort of verbal response whatsoever. You can see the wheels in her little head turning, with her visibly expressing confusion, frustration, and finally, resignation at being steadily ignored.

Haunting. My heart breaks for Caylee at seeing those videos. What mother sits and ignores her toddler's attempts to interact with her while filming it the entire time? IMO, one with some serious issues preventing her from being the sort of mother her daughter needs and deserves.

I still have no idea what Casey was going for in those videos, keeping the camera on Caylee while blatantly ignoring her tries to draw her into conversation...you can see how uncomfortable Caylee is and how it's bothering her.

Was Casey completely oblivious to that, and who was she filming that stuff for, anyway? Certainly not for Caylee. IMO.

 

[Harmony 2]

I know what you mean, and you describe it so well....although the girl whose face is obscured is a figure similar to Casey not Caylee, it's a standing adult figure... (If I'm thinking of the same picture you mean). It still looks so much (with that pigeon toed way of standing) like Casey I can't believe it was just a picture she found but apparently it was as far as we've heard. I was always interested in that picture too because it just looked so much like Casey and either the backyard garden area or even the remains site.

respectfully snipped- bolded and underscored by me

I think you are referring to her stance in this photo. That is the photo I was thinking of when I saw the 'LOVE' picture, too.

 

[Mamabear1963]

Looking at those two pictures, I think it is Casey.

I looked at it a long time just now it is eerie to me....the face obscured...the identity obscured...almost like love took something away....I am sure someone has already seen that or said that but it just struck me.

Also, and I am sure someone has said this before...but it seem there is something in the woods off to the left and behind the figure.

 

[zoey]

Snipped with respect.

Excellent point.

Maybe it's just me, but I put far, far more weight on what KC did while she was a mother, than witnesses saying she was a good mother. Looking at her behaviour, she was a terrible mother, imo.

ITA with all the above...and would love others to ponder how we would grade someone being a "good" mom at kc's age....her friends were that age and didn't really know the true kc---they knew the kc she projected which was based on LIES--lies about her job and everything else....at that age you really don't get the concept of what a parent really is....parenthood just isn't something you slip on and off---its a full time commitment---It requires knowing EXACTLY where your child is (especially at that age)---it requries knowing who has your child at all times and everything else--heck most parents I know (especially moms) don't go to sleep or sleep very deeply when there children are out --- not to mention "missing"---life went on for her---when she went back to the house that day with the gas can--she didn't go collect things for her daughter oh no--NOT kc---SHE COLLECTED HER OWN CLOTHING & other trips were for food & such ---- yep a really good canidate for moty....:angel:

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Everyone says ICA was a good mother, was she truly???

In their presence but what did she do when no one was looking??? I can see her being very mean to Caylee which is why Caylee always wanted CiCi..I can see her ignoring her child, I can see her taunting her child, I can see her in my mind...JMHO

If what that computer guy James Thompson stated the truth, what he described at the WalMart store and in his store is more of how ICA treated Caylee with indifference. She walked feet ahead of Caylee, she seemed to have been annoyed that guy gave Caylee a beanie doll..

see video at below link..I don't know if LE is taking this as gospel truth but it does give an eye opener to ICA demeanor towards her own child..IMO

http://www.wesh.com/video/21209605/index.html


I also feel she was a good mother until the novelty wore off. Everyone who mentions what a beautiful child Caylee was, ICA has to say, she looks just like me. She was in competition with her own child, she claims to have taken off to BOND with Caylee, that should have began while Caylee was in her womb and when she was born it would have been stronger. I truly believe ICA is too narsisistic to love anyone but herself. Besides the fact, she truly didn't want to be a mother, seemed to have been forced upon her or she could have terminated her pregnancy way before 7 months, or could have opted for adoption, CA didn't want that.

A good mom is not jealous of the love their child receives from her grandparents, friends, lovers..As JG told it, ICA broke off their engagement because he loved Caylee more than he loved ICA...nice for a mom to look at her child in this way!

What mother give her child medicine to sleep so she can party?

What mother drags her child to adult parties, letting her sleep on the couch?

What mother doesn't support their own child. Did she buy food or clothes or toys for Caylee?

ICA puts on a good front, IMO. She cares nothing for anyone but herself. She is the most important person in her life, Caylee's death proves that to me, anyway..JMHO


Justice for Caylee

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Looking at those two pictures, I think it is Casey.

I looked at it a long time just now it is eerie to me....the face obscured...the identity obscured...almost like love took something away....I am sure someone has already seen that or said that but it just struck me.

Also, and I am sure someone has said this before...but it seem there is something in the woods off to the left and behind the figure.

Wow, talk about irony...

Seems like ICA was memoralizing what happened to Caylee....weird isn't it..I wonder if this photo was downloaded after Caylee's demise...It's not her, she had to have downloaded it...JMHO


Justice for Caylee

 

[Harmony 2]

I have over 575 jpgs saved on my computer. Everyone of those pictures involved a thought process in searching for it and deciding to save it. I had a purpose or reason when I ventured through the web searching. Then I made a conscious decision when I saved them. I think most people go through a similar process and this is why the photos Casey saved are so intriguing to me. A glimpse into her thinking...

 

[Muzikman]

I'm not 100% sure but I'm trying to look it up, I think that love picture is one I've seen before..before I heard of Casey Anthony. I want to say it was done by an artist named "Ilana Yahav" but I'm not entirely positive. I'll post up a link if I find it elsewhere, it just seems very familiar to me.

Nevermind, she did the "Love 2008" video montage of making art with sand. I think the way "love" is written reminded me of how she wrote in the sand. . I don't think it's related after all.

The "Love" photo was taken by a girl named Adrienne Pitts, and it looks like it was submitted to JPGMag on June 26, 2008. Very interesting!

http://www.jpgmag.com/photos/793242


Harmony, great find on the Casey Patio pic. It does look very similar. Obviously, the Love pic captured Casey's attention.... I wonder if SHE submitted anything to JPGMag? Anybody ever research that? Since it looks like she at least read there....

 

[21merc7]

There was a lot of discussion about this pic early on. I cannot remember if it was in the KC photobucket threads or where. I just remember the photo, I think someone even lightened it and there are 2 people standing behind the word love. (I cannot find the thread though, I am no good at those searches.)

 

[Muzikman]

There was a lot of discussion about this pic early on. I cannot remember if it was in the KC photobucket threads or where. I just remember the photo, I think someone even lightened it and there are 2 people standing behind the word love. (I cannot find the thread though, I am no good at those searches.)

It was discussed at length in the Casey's Photobucket threads, there are 2 of them I believe. Dod a thread title search on Photobucket, they should come up. They may be in the case analysis forum at the top of the main Caylee page...

 

[Harmony 2]

There was a lot of discussion about this pic early on. I cannot remember if it was in the KC photobucket threads or where. I just remember the photo, I think someone even lightened it and there are 2 people standing behind the word love. (I cannot find the thread though, I am no good at those searches.)

There was discussion about the photobucket photos in other threads. This thread is geared toward the possible thought processes or frame of mind involved in the selection of the photos and during her private moments.

 

[OneLostGrl]

respectfully snipped- bolded and underscored by me

I think you are referring to her stance in this photo. That is the photo I was thinking of when I saw the 'LOVE' picture, too.

FWIW This picture comes from here-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellopoe/1478369621/in/set-72157600368807062/

The comments make it clear this picture belongs to this woman, she created it.