*graphic and adult content* Jodi Arias Trial discussion #6

[LotusPawprint]

I bet Jodi did searches for how to mortally wound, how to remove DNA evidence and coloring your hair on the road in three easy steps.

And I'll bet this computer forensic expert won't miss any of her key searches unlike some did down in Florida :banghead:

 

[Madeleine74]

Note how Martinez is proactively directing the witness to say "YES" or "NO" by rephrasing his questions and forcing the witness to answer "yes" or "no." Witnesses can sometimes meander in their responses and he wants to make sure the jury really understands the answer. He will also do this for witnesses who answer "umm" or "uh huh" rather than enunciate a "yes" or "no."

This is a sign of a very experienced and detail-oriented trial lawyer who understands the value of the court reporter's record and also that a simple answer needs to be given to a closed end question.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I've noticed that most computer experts have a hard time relaying facts about computers to the average Joe. I think that the Prosecutor is trying to make sure that the jury really understands the computer forensics and not let it go over their heads.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

And I'll bet this computer forensic expert won't miss any of her key searches unlike some did down in Florida :banghead:

That still makes me sick that LE botched the computer search sooooooo badly. :furious:

 

[alwaysonmymind]

This Prosecutor is just amazing. He knows so much about everything in criminal cases.

I love the questions he asked the witnesses. It shows he already knows the answer.

1st courtroom rule- never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.

I think he's doing an excellent job.


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[LotusPawprint]

This Prosecutor is just amazing. He knows so much about everything in criminal cases.

I love the questions he asked the witnesses. It shows he already knows the answer.

ITA. His questioning is so streamlined. He doesn't allow the witnesses to ramble therefore only allowing the jury to hear what they need to know. I think that's so important for a jury especially in a long, tedious trial like this. Keep it quick, moving, and to the point. Don't let the witnesses explain the unnecessary. Question. Answer. Next. At least for me he keeps my attention. Can't say the same for the defense attorneys.

 

[nursebeeme]

there is the camera

 

[KatherineGA]

Yes! camera detail!

 

[AZNanaPeg]

I disagree wholeheartedly. You think all defense attorneys are slime? In that case, do you assume that everyone who is accused of a crime and goes to trial is necessarily guilty? I'm sorry, but I think that attitude is dangerous!

I know it is but that's how I feel about crimes lately. My attitude is very slanted and has been jaded over the past few years of seeing very guilty people being found "not guilty" after trials with damning evidence proving their guilt. It may be that I'm getting old and crotchety! I remember being outraged at my Dad having such skewed views when he was alive but now that I'm aging, I think I see his point! When I see obviously drunk drivers killing people and not being punished or like CA walking after what I thought was obvious evidence to killing and hiding her child, that's just how I feel. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I'm just being honest! :/

 

[LotusPawprint]

That still makes me sick that LE botched the computer search sooooooo badly. :furious:

Me too. And WS'ers took care of that. Of course.

 

[nursebeeme]

right and left handed (way to go!)

 

[norest4thewicked]

I HOPE that this expert will explain the dragging photo and how it was taken!

 

[wenwe4]

Michael Melendez - Mesa PD - assigned to computer forensics unit - Det. - computer related evidence examinations and collections of evidence.

he would collect evidence, then write blockers so it couldn't be changed, finally examine

He would examine hard drive not the tower or monitor - because that is where data is stored. Connect hard drive to write blocker - it prevents his computer from altering the drive . . .he used forensic software - endcase (encase?) - make a copy from the drive to keep original in pristine form - conduct exam from a mirror image of hard drive.

what are you looking for what do you do on mirrior image. . initially look for software - user account info, last time computer was shut down, time and date and any other info contained in that . . . .

anything with cameras?
yes - something similar to camera in a computer is a SD card or memory stick - try to see what is in there.

connect it to a card reader with USB cord then connect to write blocker and make a mirror image and apply software available to see data.

There was a laptop he initially worked on. .... if they are done with something they can hit delete and it is off monitor and then hit delete again that doesn't go away.

A computer has an operating system . . . ie: XP, windows8 etc. . . .the area assigned to that file can be used for a new file.....there are areas the deleted item goes to and stays there until something comes along to overwrite it. . . .

you have a file cabinet - a folder in that cabinet - if you take out old files and replace with new files you have overwritten them.

New files can eventually overwrite old files and then old ones would not be there anymore.

on camera - if it is deleted - works in same fashion - storage space in the media card - called unallocated space because it doesn't have a file (or name) assigned to that specific area.

more like a way to index where you put things but lost your index card - don't know where you put that stuff. . . . look around in that space I search for file header - specific file header - if those files are in unallocated space it would show me a "hit" where those files are (might be)

You can go into unallocated space - different ways to look @ with the software- image view (like thumbnail view - multiple images you can look @) . . .thumbnail - when you take a photo it takes a large image and a small thumbnail image. . . . if you delete large image the thumbnail may still be there if the area is not overwritten with new info.

thumbnail is a smaller image. What the software does - hexview - letters, imageview - thumbnail view - image you can recover.

Exhibits #214, - camera - digital camera - need to have power source - officer bought the power source - he didn't have one the battery was dead needed to maintain power.

Turn them on . . .point and click the button. right & left handed . . . .button is on top right side - take it out to look @ it.

Come back @ 1:25 after lunch.

#215 &

 

[Chanler]

I dont think they are.They are as important to see that justice is done as the Prosecutors. I think where the dislike comes in is because most defendants are quilty and convicted. Without defense attorneys there would never be a resolution one way or the other.

And of course it depends on the behavior of the defense attorneys in court. Frankly Baez and Steve Feldman in the Westerfield case were slime imo.

Some of the best attorneys I have ever seen have been defense attorneys.
Who are respectful to the witnesses, to the court, and knows the case inside and out and are great examiners. I am very glad that innocent people have found such attorneys to fight for them.

Hi, OceanBlueEyes; thanks for your temperate post. Years back, I spoke with a New York City Legal Aid lawyer who had obviously sacrificed a much more lucrative career to help the accused. He told me that it was important to protect the legal rights even of the guilty. He told me about cases of minor felony crimes in which the convicted person was being charged with "pile-on" counts or young people who had given wildly false confessions under duress.

 

[nursebeeme]

lunch time! (she kind of cut him off right in the middle... )

 

[LotusPawprint]

Lunch time.

Back at 1:20 AZ time.

3:20 normal people time.

 

[Madeleine74]

{wondering if there will be a cavalry/contingent who will insist that any web searches that implicate J.A. were 'planted.'}

 

[KMouse]

January 14, 2012 morning testimony

Michael Melendez--witness for the prosecution

--works for Mesa PD. In June 2008 he was a detective in the computer forensics department. He conducted examinations of computer related evidence. Did forensic examinations.

--Prosecution is walking Melendez through the steps of what he examines and why. Melendez takes the hard drive and connects it to a device that makes it incapable of being altered. A copy of the hard drive is made to work with. The original is kept.

--Looks at user account information, and last time computer was shut down. Melendez also looks at cameras. Looks at the memory cards in cameras. Similar process used to examine memory cards. A mirror image is made and software is used to look at the information.

--Melendez initially worked on a laptop. Prosecution asked about deleted information...what happens to deleted information on a computer? Melendez is explaining how the operating system deals with deleted information. Deleted information stays in the operating system until new information is added to the open space. The operating system will overwrite the deleted information when the space is needed. Prosecution is now asking about deleting information from a camera/media card. The unallocated space doesn't have a file assigned to it so it sits empty until the computer needs the space. Investigators can look into unallocated spaces. Melendez uses forensic software to look at these unallocated spaces.

--Forensic software will show thumbnails of images.

Exhibits #214, 215, 220

#214, Camera--Melendez explains how a digital camera works. Battery in the camera was dead. Melendez used a power source instead of a batter. The button to take photos is on the top of the camera.

Lunch break.

 

[BritsKate]

Conducted examination of camera admitted into evidence. PD had to buy power source for camera - battery was dead. (FYI: camera was heavily water damaged though that hasn't been testified to yet.) The button to take photos is on the top. (Removing camera) - and it's lunch break...sorry, I don't want to starve the jury or anything but couldn't we have gotten a little further...

(Confessional: A few days back I was thinking the judge, jury, all court personnel, and defendant should be required to attend 24/7 with 3 minute bathroom breaks only every 4 hours. They can eat Mickey D's out of the bag where they sit. But I'm selfish like that and I have way too much time to daydream at 3am! )

 

[nursebeeme]

anyone who missed the morning session: all the transcripts from wenwe and kmouse and tigerbalm are all in the timeline and media thread

thank you! :rocker: