*graphic and adult content* Jodi Arias Trial discussion #6

[Madeleine74]

The confusion I have about this crime is why she waited until she did to kill him versus sneak into his house and use the gun (and only the gun) and be out of there much faster. She arrives in the middle of the night and it's more than 12 hours later when she kills him.

In the meantime she's already established a timeline and an expectation that she will be in SLC with the new guy, and he's waiting for her.

There's just so much plain stupidity to go with the evil. I guess it's possible she didn't decide to absolutely kill him until later, but she was otherwise prepared with a gun, had changed her hair color, had a rental car, set up a visit to SLC, etc. Instead she spreads her DNA around, hair, pictures, just the most ludicrous stupid things and when she finally does decide to kill him, instead of one or 2 shots in the shower, she's all about the knife and leaving puddles of blood, which only serve to point right at her.

Such a dumb girl. And evil. Dumb and evil.

 

[Linda7NJ]

That photo that got debated ad nauseum last week in which Travis is being dragged back to the bathroom...

Well today I saw a much better resolution of that photo when they showed it in court. That is her foot in the front of the picture (not her knee. She is not on her knees).

Can you please post the clearer pic you saw?

 

[PrincessSezMe]

1) air hunger from having his throat slashed (arm)

2) the next day (cancun)

Wasn't the Cancun trip supposed to be the day AFTER he was found dead? That would make it 6 days after the murder?

ETA: Sorry, doing a lot of catch up today. I see this was already answered.

 

[christee]

Photo #141 on 6/4 at 5:22:24 from today's trial. Travis has both hands to chest. Is he clutching soap?

I see him as holding his hands to his heart.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Wasn't the Cancun trip supposed to be the day AFTER he was found dead? That would make it 6 days after the murder?

Correct

 

[alwaysonmymind]

My my, what a busy-beaver.

Right?? So busy it blew up. Or it looked that way from the photo....


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[nursebeeme]

The confusion I have about this crime is why she waited until she did to kill him versus sneak into his house and use the gun (and only the gun) and be out of there much faster. She arrives in the middle of the night and it's more than 12 hours later when she kills him.

In the meantime she's already established a timeline and an expectation that she will be in SLC with the new guy, and he's waiting for her.

There's just so much plain stupidity to go with the evil. I guess it's possible she didn't decide to absolutely kill him until later, but she was otherwise prepared with a gun, had changed her hair color, had a rental car, set up a visit to SLC, etc. Instead she spreads her DNA around, hair, pictures, just the most ludicrous stupid things and when she finally does decide to kill him, instead of one or 2 shots in the shower, she's all about the knife and leaving puddles of blood, which only serve to point right at her.

Such a dumb girl. And evil. Dumb and evil.

bbm: because she was also using sex as a weapon.. in the LE interview she had all her reasons laid out why her blood, hair, and everything would be in the house.. well, everything except the pictures.. she thought she was too smart for that.

So now it is on to the bash TA defense.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Right?? So busy it blew up. Or it looked that way from the photo....


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Omg! Roflmao! Thud!

 

[Sweetiemom]

Just thinking out loud here-how convenient was it that Jodi had a gun and knife at hand when he attacked her?

 

[nursebeeme]

Can you post it, I have not seen this clear.

TIA

I didn't get a screen cap.. I was still in shock from the vjj

 

[nursebeeme]

Wasn't the Cancun trip supposed to be the day AFTER he was found dead? That would make it 6 days after the murder?

I deleted my post.. that was the wrong info.. sorry... but she did check on him because the trip was coming up and she had not heard from him, seen him at the church meeting he was normally at, and was aware of a 'stalker'

 

[Linda7NJ]

Just thinking out loud here-how convenient was it that Jodi had a gun and knife at hand when he attacked her?

I know, right?
She was a very lucky girl!
Had they not been right there in arms reach, that poor girl would be dead when Travis attacked her!

 

[gitana1]

Hello, everyone!
I am new here, but I've tried to read as much of the threads as possible. I apologize ahead of time if this has already been answered, but when I tried to post it on the facebook trial page, no one really answered me. I was wondering about the timing. I know some of the photos were taken around 5:30 PM in the shower. The one roommate said he got home around 6 PM. How did she manage to kill him, drag him back to the shower, do a pathetic clean up attempt, and do the laundry, to get out of the house 30 minutes later? I was bothered by this for a while. I totally think she's guilty, but I can't understand how the timing works.

WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anbd good question. I don;t know the answer!

That photo that got debated ad nauseum last week in which Travis is being dragged back to the bathroom...

Well today I saw a much better resolution of that photo when they showed it in court. That is her foot in the front of the picture (not her knee. She is not on her knees).

I agree. And I think it would be very, very tough to slit someone's throat from above, too, especially if the victim outweighs the murderer. I am convinced he was crawling away and she straddled him and slit his throat while holding up his head. She is a beast.

Is anyone else still stunned?

I'm still stunned. I was the same way for much of the Anthony trial but mainly due to Baez. This is a whole new level for me. Wow.

Yes.

 

[Madeleine74]

bbm: because she was also using sex as a weapon.. in the LE interview she had all her reasons laid out why her blood, hair, and everything would be in the house.. well, everything except the pictures.. she thought she was too smart for that.

For someone who wanted to claim she hadn't seen Travis since April of that year, she sure didn't think it through.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

The confusion I have about this crime is why she waited until she did to kill him versus sneak into his house and use the gun (and only the gun) and be out of there much faster. She arrives in the middle of the night and it's more than 12 hours later when she kills him.

In the meantime she's already established a timeline and an expectation that she will be in SLC with the new guy, and he's waiting for her.

There's just so much plain stupidity to go with the evil. I guess it's possible she didn't decide to absolutely kill him until later, but she was otherwise prepared with a gun, had changed her hair color, had a rental car, set up a visit to SLC, etc. Instead she spreads her DNA around, hair, pictures, just the most ludicrous stupid things and when she finally does decide to kill him, instead of one or 2 shots in the shower, she's all about the knife and leaving puddles of blood, which only serve to point right at her.

Such a dumb girl. And evil. Dumb and evil.

BBM: Maybe she was giving him one last romp in the hay (and trying to make it a really good one at that) in a last ditch effort to make him change his mind about her? And then when he didn't, she went into a rage and used the weapons she had taken 'cause in her heart (?) she knew he wouldn't want her?

 

[BritsKate]

The confusion I have about this crime is why she waited until she did to kill him versus sneak into his house and use the gun (and only the gun) and be out of there much faster. She arrives in the middle of the night and it's more than 12 hours later when she kills him.

In the meantime she's already established a timeline and an expectation that she will be in SLC with the new guy, and he's waiting for her.

There's just so much plain stupidity to go with the evil. I guess it's possible she didn't decide to absolutely kill him until later, but she was otherwise prepared with a gun, had changed her hair color, had a rental car, set up a visit to SLC, etc. Instead she spreads her DNA around, hair, pictures, just the most ludicrous stupid things and when she finally does decide to kill him, instead of one or 2 shots in the shower, she's all about the knife and leaving puddles of blood, which only serve to point right at her.

Such a dumb girl. And evil. Dumb and evil.

I personally believe she had every intention of killing him in his sleep with the knife. Once she found him awake on the computer her plans may have had to change based on roommates schedules - or something else entirely.

Because of the fibers and tassel found I think she used a throw pillow from the bed as a makeshift silencer. Due to that I don't believe the gun was ever her initial weapon of choice.

ETA: Unless the roommates weren't home! Then the gun could've been her primary option. But I still don't understand why she didn't use that first in the afternoon.

 

[Feebot]

Are her interview tapes anywhere I can go to listen to them.

 

[jellybeanz]

today in court : after lunch

 

[dlkutac]

The whole photo shoot in the shower was designed to get him in a tight, squatting position on the floor. She knew that from that position, he would have extreme difficulty getting his legs back underneath him to rise and move toward her. Basically, that was the most defenseless position possible. With the slippery surface and the surprise of the attack, he would have had to crawl out of the shower.

 

[Madeleine74]

HERE'S a better resolution of that picture showing her dragging him, with her leg/foot in front. It's not a perfect picture, but at least you can see a bit more of the detail including the tile floor.