**Graphic and adult content**Jodia Arias Trial Discussion #7

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  • #821
If this is declared a mistrial, it will have to be redone, right? What more can the defense gain with more time to work on this case?
A mistrial caused by the defendant or by nobody (jury deadlocks, defense attorney has a heart attack and dies, courthouse catches fire, whatever other "good cause") means a retrial due to "necessity."

A mistrial caused by serious governmental misconduct means the defendant goes free. In legalese, "jeopardy has attached" once the jury is sworn in, and the defendant has a constitutional right against double jeopardy. Otherwise, if the trial seemed to be going badly, the prosecutor could do something outrageous and cause a mistrial so that he could get another chance to do better at retrial, which would violate the defendant's constitutional right against double jeopardy - and would probably also violate the defendant's constitutional right to a speedy trial.

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  • #822
Sorry. I've been mia. Hope this wasn't already discussed in full...

Some thoughts re Travis sitting in shower looking hopeless- what if she was holding the knife on herself pulling a "poor pitiful me. Ooh I'm going to kill myself over you". Travis just crouches down in despair to talk it out with her and to try to get her to clam down. If he were to reach out to her then she attacked.

Is there anyone in this forum that ever sits on their shower floor?

If I wanna sit, it's gonna be in a bathtub
 
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YOUR opinion bobloblaw. Others may see them as sex pics. That is ALL I am trying to say. Photos are subjective as are many other things. I don't see them as degrading since I don't think that there is anything more degrading about Jodi Arias than what she did to Travis. However, others will see them as degrading. Yes, they are nude photos. But, a close up of a vagina can be more than just a nude photo to many people. It's all in a persons perception and how they look at it.

Sorry, its not an opinion, its fact, there is no sexual activity taking place in those photos. End of story.

You can imply that sex took place before or after, but certainly not in the photos shown.

And the photos alone are not degrading, they are pictures of the human body.

If there were pics of her bound in chains with him whipping her into submission, they could be seen as degrading, but these are simply nude pics.
 
  • #826
NO EXPLANATION? what!!1 i feel for the ones paying taxes for this case

I am one of those tax payers. I feel entitled to know what went in the chambers! LOL!
 
  • #827
MC Superior Court‏@courtpio

State v Arias: State calls Larry Gladysh of Mesa PD to the witness stand.
 
  • #828
State calls next witness . . . Larry (?) Mesa PD . . .
obtaining voicemail messages - he wrote court order to have the pin # changed to his voicemail account so he could access TA's vm account.

He called TA's number accessed the vm and recorded the messages on the voicemail

831-402-1901 - detail account records - name associated with that number is Jodi Arias

Call log . . . one call interested in on 6/4/08 11:48 pm - Defense asks to approach

voicemail associated with that message - exhibit 365 admitted . . .

Voicemail
I know Leslie called you - you can call her back if you want - I drove over 100 miles in the wrong direction - you were not here so . . . fun fun - we can talk about that later . . . we are going to see Othello - you can go with us if you want . . . . we can see Shakespere . . . .

the caller would have been 45 N of Kingman and 27 miles from the Nevada border approximately.

Cross Examination -

Defense Atty - was that the only voicemail?
I didn't examine the phone just the voicemails - that was not the only voicemails -

that was not the only work done - reviewed police report recently - sought out records of Dustin and Ashley Thompson - what is your understanding of why did you do that? Objection - hearsay! Approach
 
  • #829
sidebar.. defense doesn't want this in (of course)

:nevermind:
 
  • #830
able to obtain a voice mail

(here we go)
 
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Why did Jodi have an 831 area code? That's not the typical area code for Yreka, but it is the area code for Monterrey (where her old boyfriend lives and where she stopped on the way down to AZ and deposited money into the bank)
 
  • #833
I am one of those tax payers. I feel entitled to know what went in the chambers! LOL!
I am sorry but this whole delays and etc is annoying and pathetic...its money ..its waste of time even lower cases that i dealt with with my job if you are late you are DONE
 
  • #834
11:48 pm... is that the time that his voicemail was accessed for 16 minutes?
 
  • #835
to answer a previous question:

my husband sits in the shower ALL.THE.TIME - and we only have a stand up shower, no bath
he has since I met him!
 
  • #836
yadda yadda...she talked so fast what the heck (wenwe if you can transcribe that my hat is off to you!)
 
  • #837
ouch!
 
  • #838
cross: there were more voice mails

(other than the yadda yadda one)
 
  • #839
Sorry. I've been mia. Hope this wasn't already discussed in full...

Some thoughts re Travis sitting in shower looking hopeless- what if she was holding the knife on herself pulling a "poor pitiful me. Ooh I'm going to kill myself over you". Travis just crouches down in despair to talk it out with her and to try to get her to clam down. If he were to reach out to her then she attacked.

Is there anyone in this forum that ever sits on their shower floor?

I've seen my hubby do it. He sits back and lets the hot water hit him - I guess it relaxes him and I notice he does it when he is especially tired.
 
  • #840
Yikes I'm in Kingman , don't hear my city come up in many trials
 
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