Greece - Caroline Crouch, 20, tortured and murdered, Athens, 11 May 2021 #4 *ARREST*

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That interview is what made me start thinking Babis may be a contract killer. K said we will be shocked/amazed. He asked, how does he kill his wife, put his baby by her dead mother, hang the puppy, and appear calm afterwords? K also asked, what training/experience did he have to be able to do that? /Paraphrasing

Contract killer, drug smuggler, or both? This is what I keep asking. Will we find out in the end if either/both apply? We need to give the writers of this serial a bonus.
 
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Ta Nea June 30

The Greek Association of Psychologists is suing Eleni Mylonopoulou again in order to prove her qualifications? This article is interesting, since it covers statements by both confessed spouse killer B and self-proclaimed 'psychologist' EM ( who is being investigated for fraud and breach of confidentiality). Can we believe what either of them says? Which con artist is closer to the truth?
 
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https://www.newsit.gr/egklhma/glyka...u-syzygoktonou-pano-apo-tin-alonniso/3316980/

B and his chopper (video) Questions why was he allowed to use it freely.

Ok, so... I posted an article, but it was a regurgitation of this one. So I deleted it. I still want to point out, though, that B was 27, C was 14, and he was using that chopper to impress C and also his friends on the island. Not 2 months after her 15th bday, via the Tunnel show, through her FB page, we see that C was already madly in love with B.
 
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Ok, so... I posted an article, but it was a regurgitation of this one. So I deleted it. I still want to point out, though, that B was 27, C was 14, and he was using that chopper to impress C and also his friends on the island. Not 2 months after her 15th bday, via the Tunnel show, through her FB page, we see that C was already madly in love with B.
This article is important to me b/c it raises questions I asked before: How is it possible that a mere employee can use such an expensive equipment whenever and wherever he he wishes.
 
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This article is important to me b/c it raises questions I asked before: How is it possible that a mere employee can use such expensive equipment whenever and wherever he he wishes.

Right. This article ask questions and offers insights to a variety of elements in this case.
 
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This article is important to me b/c it raises questions I asked before: How is it possible that a mere employee can use such an expensive equipment whenever and wherever he he wishes.
What's multiple $1000 an hour gifts for years between friends?
 
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What's multiple $1000 an hour gifts for years between friends?
Hahaha How naive of me :)
It is a private company after all. They can do with their money whatever they want - even "throw them into the mud" as we say here.
Who can forbid the rich??:) :)
I'm accustomed to state-owned firms and they have VERY strict regulations.
 
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Ok, so... I posted an article, but it was a regurgitation of this one. So I deleted it. I still want to point out, though, that B was 27, C was 14, and he was using that chopper to impress C and also his friends on the island. Not 2 months after her 15th bday, via the Tunnel show, through her FB page, we see that C was already madly in love with B.

wow, in the beginning everyone thought she was 16 when he started grooming her, then 15 and now 14… frightening
 
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wow, in the beginning everyone thought she was 16 when he started grooming her, then 15 and now 14… frightening

There were local people on soc media from the beginning, calling him a 'pedo', and that she was only 14. As we can see by MSM even today, they are still trying to paint it out to be a consensual adult relationship, she dying at 20 instead of 19, and he being 32 instead of 33. Every little tweak helps his image, including referring to him constantly as 'the pilot' instead of spouse killer or the confessed murderer.
 
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There were local people on soc media from the beginning, calling him a 'pedo', and that she was only 14. As we can see by MSM even today, they are still trying to paint it out to be a consensual adult relationship, she dying at 20 instead of 19, and he being 32 instead of 33. Every little tweak helps his image, including referring to him constantly as 'the pilot' instead of spouse killer or the confessed murderer.
Technically a "pedo" person refers to attraction to prepubescent children.
But of course general public considers it as attraction to any immature teenagers. But B wouldn't be charged of this in court.
 
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Right. This article ask questions and offers insights to a variety of elements in this case.

Google translation.

Although a simple employee of a helicopter company, it seems that the pilot had access to helicopters, in order to impress both his close circle and the unfortunate Caroline.
Video documentary from a flight by Babis Anagnostopoulos was shown by Star. This shows the pilot, as he flies over the Aegean, in the direction of Alonissos, having company with him. He was 27 at the time and had not yet married Caroline. However, he seems to have been able to transport his friends, although the cost of using this medium is very expensive. "When you tell your friend that you cannot see him one day because the itineraries are not convenient and he tells you I will come and take you by helicopter!" a friend of the pilot wrote on the internet. "The cost of a helicopter flight of a medium 4 or 5 seater helicopter is about 1,000 euros per hour. The commercial companies that are active in the field rent these means and it is not usual to give the volatile means to employees to carry out transports of their friends "explained Grigoris Konstandelos, president of the association of civil aviation pilots and mayor of Varis-Voulas-Vouliagmeni. It is therefore questionable how such a young employee had access to such an expensive aircraft. Did he rent it? Did he borrow it from someone? Did he use any of the helicopters of the company he worked for? However, the residents of Alonissos had seen the confessed killer many times flying by helicopter over the island. In this way, they say, he wanted to impress Caroline, but also the friends he had made there.

The police will carefully examine all the documents in their possession.

https://www.newsit.gr/egklhma/glyka...u-syzygoktonou-pano-apo-tin-alonniso/3316980/

I doubt B rented the helicopter or borrowed one from someone, it is more likely he used one of Sovereign Air's. I am wondering what B's relationship with the owner of Sovereign Air was about that he would allow B to fly over the Greek islands whenever he wanted. Had B done special missions for him? Did Sofianos know that B was flying the helicopter to take friends to places or over the island of Alonissos to impress C?
 
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Caroline's Unknown Sister from the Philippines - The moving posts after her death

A new report on the T-Live show refers to Caroline's unknown half-sister from the Philippines. Her name is reportedly Donna, and they were 18 years apart in age. Susan, 38, was born in the Philippines but grew up in Greece, where she studied painting at the age of eighteen. She then exhibited in Manila, where she lives permanently. In fact, after the confession of Babis Anagnostopoulos, Caroline's half-sister made posts on Facebook and wrote in a post: "My only sister, my best friend. I love you Caroline ".


Γλυκά Νερά: Η άγνωστη αδερφή της Καρολάιν από τις Φιλιππίνες – Οι συγκινητικές αναρτήσεις μετά τον θάνατό της - TheCaller
 
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Google translation.

Although a simple employee of a helicopter company, it seems that the pilot had access to helicopters, in order to impress both his close circle and the unfortunate Caroline.
Video documentary from a flight by Babis Anagnostopoulos was shown by Star. This shows the pilot, as he flies over the Aegean, in the direction of Alonissos, having company with him. He was 27 at the time and had not yet married Caroline. However, he seems to have been able to transport his friends, although the cost of using this medium is very expensive. "When you tell your friend that you cannot see him one day because the itineraries are not convenient and he tells you I will come and take you by helicopter!" a friend of the pilot wrote on the internet. "The cost of a helicopter flight of a medium 4 or 5 seater helicopter is about 1,000 euros per hour. The commercial companies that are active in the field rent these means and it is not usual to give the volatile means to employees to carry out transports of their friends "explained Grigoris Konstandelos, president of the association of civil aviation pilots and mayor of Varis-Voulas-Vouliagmeni. It is therefore questionable how such a young employee had access to such an expensive aircraft. Did he rent it? Did he borrow it from someone? Did he use any of the helicopters of the company he worked for? However, the residents of Alonissos had seen the confessed killer many times flying by helicopter over the island. In this way, they say, he wanted to impress Caroline, but also the friends he had made there.

The police will carefully examine all the documents in their possession.

https://www.newsit.gr/egklhma/glyka...u-syzygoktonou-pano-apo-tin-alonniso/3316980/

I doubt B rented the helicopter or borrowed one from someone, it is more likely he used one of Sovereign Air's. I am wondering what B's relationship with the owner of Sovereign Air was about that he would allow B to fly over the Greek islands whenever he wanted. Had B done special missions for him? Did Sofianos know that B was flying the helicopter to take friends to places or over the island of Alonissos to impress C?
The boss must have allowed it all right. One cannot fly without permission, air traffic control etc.
 
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Technically a "pedo" person refers to attraction to prepubescent children.
But of course general public considers it as attraction to any immature teenagers. But B wouldn't be charged of this in court.

The age of consent in Greece is 15. The general provision for age of consent in Greece is 15 as specified by Article 339, as well as Articles 337, 348B of the Greek Penal Code.
The age of consent in the Philippines is 12!
 
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I am very curious about why Stavros Dokiakis ended his life as it seems to have been a suicide and whether B can be connected to it in anyway.

TIMELINE

Friday 18 June B confesses to the murder of C
Friend of Stavros “Stavros was very upset last week, he did not even show up at the gym, which is rare because he was a man who paid a lot of attention to his physical condition”.
Sunday 20 June “On Sunday he was going to a wedding, but he told me he was not hungry.”
Monday 21 June Stavros Dogiakis, 53, disappeared from the area of Glyka Nera.
Tuesday 22 June Stavros Dogiakis disappeared. The details were published at the request of his family as there are reasons that put his life in danger.

From Missing Persons Report
Greece / Thriller with the disappearance of a 53-year-old: He left a note to his brother

It does seem to be a coincidence that SD suicided not long after B's confession.
 
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Why the aviation psychotechnical tests did not "catch" Anagnostopoulos - How he fooled the doctors
The trick of Babis Anagnostopoulos to pass the psychotechnical tests in aviation

Impressive is the fact that the psychological tests that the pilots undergo never identified a problem in the psychosynthesis of Babis Anagnostopoulos who killed his 20-year-old wife in Glyka Nera , next to their 11-month-old daughter. " No psychiatrist could catch this. Because when he is well-groomed, well-dressed, speaks intelligently, speaks beautifully and loves himself, he is not going to hurt his passenger," Ioannis told Mega and the Live News show. Aslanidis, ophthalmologist and air doctor. The accredited civil aviation doctor admits that the annual psychometric tests performed by the pilots could not "catch" the 33-year-old husband-killer. "There are some people who clearly show that they have a problem or their behavior has changed, see German Wings pilot. And on the other hand we have our own pilot who I believe that no psychometric test could catch the trace of the personality called malignant narcissistic personality disorder. " explains the doctor.

Anagnostopoulos trick to pass the tests

All pilots must undergo psychometric tests every year, while those over 40 must visit their air doctor every six months. "The pilot who comes to the same doctor for many years, has nothing to fear. We have pilots who we see for 15 years and now we know their family and their concerns and stress," said Mr. Aslanidis. The big problem , identified by aviation doctors, is that pilots do not have to go to the same doctor every year so they can easily hide. The trick of constantly changing doctors was also used by Andrea Lupic, who in March 2015 dropped the Germanwings aircraft in the French Alps, killing 150 people on board. "This man was a psychopath. Some people had diagnosed him with psychopathy. How did he avoid it? He was constantly changing doctors," the air doctor said in the case of the plane crash. The noticeable difference with the Freshwater pilot is that a narcissistic pilot would never become dangerous behind the aircraft control, according to the doctor. "He loves himself. He can not hurt his client. Equally because he wants to show that he is perfect. He was a very good pilot, I tell you from inside information I have. He was well-dressed, well-groomed, if you take 100 clients "99 would be happy with his behavior. And out of the 100 doctors, he would not leave any trace of suspicion," Mr. Aslanidis stressed.

https://www.thetoc.gr/koinwnia/arti...n-anagnostopoulo---🤬🤬🤬-xegelase-tous-giatrous
 
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Ok, so... I posted an article, but it was a regurgitation of this one. So I deleted it. I still want to point out, though, that B was 27, C was 14, and he was using that chopper to impress C and also his friends on the island. Not 2 months after her 15th bday, via the Tunnel show, through her FB page, we see that C was already madly in love with B.

Wait what?

He meet her when she was 14?
 
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I am very curious about why Stavros Dokiakis ended his life as it seems to have been a suicide and whether B can be connected to it in anyway.

TIMELINE

Friday 18 June B confesses to the murder of C
Friend of Stavros “Stavros was very upset last week, he did not even show up at the gym, which is rare because he was a man who paid a lot of attention to his physical condition”.
Sunday 20 June “On Sunday he was going to a wedding, but he told me he was not hungry.”
Monday 21 June Stavros Dogiakis, 53, disappeared from the area of Glyka Nera.
Tuesday 22 June Stavros Dogiakis disappeared. The details were published at the request of his family as there are reasons that put his life in danger.

From Missing Persons Report
Greece / Thriller with the disappearance of a 53-year-old: He left a note to his brother

It does seem to be a coincidence that SD suicided not long after B's confession.
Mob issues in MO. Maybe afraid of what B might confess to police. LE claim both men didn't have their respective phone numbers in their contacts.
 
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