Halyna Hutchins Shot With Prop Gun - Alec Baldwin indicted & Hannah Gutierrez-Reed charged, 2021 #6

[steeltowngirl]

Good points. The problem AB has is his known iffy character & reputation of many years as being verbally abusive, smug.....fill in your preferred adjective.

Why does this matter? Because it goes to state of mind. He may have considered himself "above" safety rules but criminal culpability has been clearly laid out by the prosecutor in NM in this incident.

Feeling sorry for Halyna's family does not bring her back from the dead after being killed in the prime of life.

I'm not really seeing a future for AB in the spotlight due to his own missteps after this event. Private life with a focus on being an excellent parent would be his best legacy going forward should he be able to apply his huge ego to an endeavor with lasting benefit.

MY OPINION ONLY

I agree with most, to all, of what you are saying. I had almost forgotten what an azz he had been over the years until another poster spelled it out upthread.

Only point I differ on is about sorrow for Halyna’s family. Sadness and sorrow is all I have to offer. Jail time for AB or HH won’t bring Halyna back either. AB’s sorrow, and the financial settlement, are probably the most AB could really do to help her family. But I don’t really know. I have not seen any comments from her family as to whether they want jail time for AB. Maybe they do. Of course, it is not their decision, the charges were brought forward by the State of New Mexico.

I feel like the true honor to Halyna would be a meaningful and impactful movement to bring safety to the movie industry as a workplace.

jmo

 

[steeltowngirl]

snipped for focus @steeltowngirl
Getting error message w AP link & a pay/subscription wall re NYT.

Other links pls, anyone?

Oh! Sorry! I don’t subscribe to NYT but I could see the article. I can’t say much since it’s behind a paywall, but the key point in the article was “Accidents on movie and television sets, like stuntmen and stuntwomen being injured during action sequences or actors getting killed when props malfunction, have occurred with some regularity over the last several decades. There have been at least 194 serious television- and film-set accidents in the United States from 1990 to 2014, and at least 43 deaths, according to The Associated Press.”

Here are similar articles:

AP: Too quiet on the set; filming accidents often go untold

LOS ANGELES (AP) — As hundreds of names scrolled up the screen after 2012's "The Avengers," moviegoers who remained glued to their seats for a taste of the next treat in Marvel's superhero universe didn't know one name was missing — that of John Suttles, a truck driver who died helping bring the $1.

apnews.com

Lives lost behind-the-scenes: Timeline of fatal on-set movie accidents, injuries

While some on-set accidents garner public attention, others often go unnoticed.

abcnews.go.com

Dozens of deaths on TV and movie sets are being 'swept under the rug'

Since 1990, at least 43 people have died on film and TV sets in the U.S. and more than 150 have been left with life-altering injuries.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[al66pine]

Conditions of Release?

So... cannot drink or possess firearms. He also may not talk about the case any more.

Baldwin pleads not guilty in film set shooting death

Baldwin's conditions of release include a stipulation stating the actor cannot consume alcohol or possess firearms.

www.santafenewmexican.com

snipped for focus @10ofRods Thanks for summary & the link.
More detail from story:
"... allowed to have contact with potential witnesses when working on completing Rust."
From ct order itself:
"Defendant is not permitted to discuss the accident at issue, or the substance of his or the witnesses' potential testimony in this case."

So when production is resumed in Montana this spring, will Alec behave himself & not discuss the accident, & comply w ct. order?
My Magic 8 Ball advised: "Don't count on it."

 

[10ofRods]

Good points. The problem AB has is his known iffy character & reputation of many years as being verbally abusive, smug.....fill in your preferred adjective.

Why does this matter? Because it goes to state of mind. He may have considered himself "above" safety rules but criminal culpability has been clearly laid out by the prosecutor in NM in this incident.

Feeling sorry for Halyna's family does not bring her back from the dead after being killed in the prime of life.

I'm not really seeing a future for AB in the spotlight due to his own missteps after this event. Private life with a focus on being an excellent parent would be his best legacy going forward should he be able to apply his huge ego to an endeavor with lasting benefit.

MY OPINION ONLY

If he's capable of it, that would be great. I think he needs help (psychotherapy or a long trek in Nepal or *something* to get him back on the rails).

Feeling sorry is a fairly normal human capacity, when one does something wrong, which is why it is interesting to see someone do something like kill another person and not feel "sorry." It's not the same as feeling sorry *for* someone (that's pity, to me).

IMO

 

[10ofRods]

Conditions of Release?

snipped for focus @10ofRods Thanks for summary & the link.
More detail from story:
"... allowed to have contact with potential witnesses when working on completing Rust."
From ct order itself:
"Defendant is not permitted to discuss the accident at issue, or the substance of his or the witnesses' potential testimony in this case."

So when production is resumed in Montana this spring, will Alec behave himself & not discuss the accident, & comply w ct. order?
My Magic 8 Ball advised: "Don't count on it."

Wow. I don't think I really internalized that.

So how is he supposed to complete Rust? Everyone is going to be on pins and needles.

 

[WingsOverTX]

Wow. I don't think I really internalized that.

So how is he supposed to complete Rust? Everyone is going to be on pins and needles.

They could all wear squirt buttons that say, "Don't ask, don't tell"?

Really, though. The kid gloves need to come off. How about they just replace him with an AI or rewrite him out or ?

Damn the motion picture. Somebody died!
JMO

 

[al66pine]

Deaths & Injuries.

Oh! Sorry! I don’t subscribe to NYT but I could see the article. I can’t say much since it’s behind a paywall, but the key point in the article was “Accidents on movie and television sets, like stuntmen and stuntwomen being injured during action sequences or actors getting killed when props malfunction, have occurred with some regularity over the last several decades. There have been at least 194 serious television- and film-set accidents in the United States from 1990 to 2014, and at least 43 deaths, according to The Associated Press.”

Here are similar articles:

AP: Too quiet on the set; filming accidents often go untold

LOS ANGELES (AP) — As hundreds of names scrolled up the screen after 2012's "The Avengers," moviegoers who remained glued to their seats for a taste of the next treat in Marvel's superhero universe didn't know one name was missing — that of John Suttles, a truck driver who died helping bring the $1.

apnews.com

Lives lost behind-the-scenes: Timeline of fatal on-set movie accidents, injuries

While some on-set accidents garner public attention, others often go unnoticed.

abcnews.go.com

Dozens of deaths on TV and movie sets are being 'swept under the rug'

Since 1990, at least 43 people have died on film and TV sets in the U.S. and more than 150 have been left with life-altering injuries.

www.dailymail.co.uk

@steeltowngirl Thx for the info & links in your post.
Way more than I had realized.
Seems the deaths that first come to mind are cast members, rather than the crew.

 

[Cool Cats]

Emails show the prosecutor in the 'Rust' shooting privately admitted it was '100 percent' wrong to upgrade charges against Alec Baldwin​

Emails show the prosecutor in the 'Rust' shooting privately admitted it was '100 percent' wrong to upgrade charges against Alec Baldwin

"I 100 percent agree with your assessment on the issue," a special prosecutor emailed Baldwin's attorneys who challenged the charge, court documents show.

www.yahoo.com

 

[steeltowngirl]

AB waivered his appearance, but will HGR still appear in court today at 10:15 am MST?

02/24/2023 8:30 AM Judge Marlowe Sommer General Session

10:00 AM D-101-CR-2023-00039 State of New Mexico
v.
Alexander Rae Baldwin Pros Atty: Carmack-Altwies, Mary V.
First Appearance Def Atty: Leblanc, Heather M.
Comment: FIRST APPEARANCE
OUT OF CUSTODY
GOOGLE MEETS

10:15 AM D-101-CR-2023-00040 State of New Mexico
v.
Hannah Gutierrez Pros Atty: Carmack-Altwies, Mary V.
First Appearance Def Atty: Bowles, Robert Jason
Comment: FIRST APPEARANCE
OUT OF CUSTODY
GOOGLE MEETS

Division VIII Schedule - First Judicial District

Judge Anastasia R. Martin Last Updated: 07/17/2025 In-Person Hearings In-person hearings for this Division may be held at either the Santa Fe Courthouse or the Tierra Amarilla Courthouse. Please refer to your Notice of Hearing for more information about your hearing, including whether it will be...

firstdistrictcourt.nmcourts.gov

And what does this mean?:
Feb. 20, 2023, Notice of Joinder in Defendant's Motion to Disqualify Special Prosecutor

State v. Hannah Gutierrez | New Mexico Courts

www.nmcourts.gov

*ETA: NVM, I think I found the answer to above here>

Alec Baldwin Moves To Disqualify Special Prosecutor In ‘Rust’ Case For Serving As State Lawmaker

Baldwin and armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed were charged with involuntary manslaughter last week.

www.forbes.com

 

[SteveS]

AB waivered his appearance, but will HGR still appear in court today at 10:15 am MST?

Both defendants (and/or their attorney) will "meet" today with the court. But it will all be done via online video conferencing.

And what does this mean?:
Feb. 20, 2023, Notice of Joinder in Defendant's Motion to Disqualify Special Prosecutor

State v. Hannah Gutierrez | New Mexico Courts

www.nmcourts.gov

HGR is filing a motion in regards to her case - but the motion is basically saying, "Me too" to the motion by AB to remove the special prosecutor Reeb appointed for this case. It's not a brand new issue being raised by HGR.

The basis of this motion is that Reeb's appointment to be a special prosecutor in this case became illegal, under NM law, when she was elected to the NM House and took office on Jan 1. "Under Section 1 of Article III of the New Mexico Constitution, however, a sitting member of the Legislature may not 'exercise any powers properly belonging' to either the executive or judicial branch." The motion focused on the fact that the legislature determines salaries and might use that to sway decisions somehow.

However, there would be a question of what is meant by "exercise any power" and there's also an argument that none of the branches of government are meant to be fully independent, but rather in some way subservient to the others to maintain a balance of powers. A judge would certainly be disqualified, but is there possibly an argument that the prosecutors (who don't make the judicial decisions) are not actually exercising powers? But we will see how it is ruled.

 

[PrairieWind]

If he's capable of it, that would be great. I think he needs help (psychotherapy or a long trek in Nepal or *something* to get him back on the rails).

Feeling sorry is a fairly normal human capacity, when one does something wrong, which is why it is interesting to see someone do something like kill another person and not feel "sorry." It's not the same as feeling sorry *for* someone (that's pity, to me).

IMO

I'm not sure AB really seems to have much empathy.

 

[Cool Cats]

 

[deugirtni]

"Rust" shooting: Weapons supervisor Hannah Gutierrez-Reed makes first court appearance​

A film-industry weapons supervisor made her first formal court appearance Friday...
...
Hannah Gutierrez-Reed's attorney said his client will plead not guilty, but the judge did not take that plea during the virtual court proceeding. Instead, the judge issued conditions of release that allow Gutierrez-Reed to keep a gun at home for self-defense.
...
Gutierrez-Reed's attorney told the judge his client has received numerous threats and was forced to file for a restraining order against a stalker. ...

District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies told the judge she adamantly opposed the request because of Gutierrez-Reed's "sloppy mishandling of firearms and guns" on the set. She suggested Gutierrez-Reed could either move or keep a bat or pepper spray in her house instead.
...

"Rust" shooting: Weapons supervisor Hannah Gutierrez-Reed makes first court appearance

Alec Baldwin, the star of the movie, has pleaded not guilty in the on-set shooting death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[SteveS]

"Rust" shooting: Weapons supervisor Hannah Gutierrez-Reed makes first court appearance​

A film-industry weapons supervisor made her first formal court appearance Friday...
...
Hannah Gutierrez-Reed's attorney said his client will plead not guilty, but the judge did not take that plea during the virtual court proceeding. Instead, the judge issued conditions of release that allow Gutierrez-Reed to keep a gun at home for self-defense.
...
Gutierrez-Reed's attorney told the judge his client has received numerous threats and was forced to file for a restraining order against a stalker. ...

District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies told the judge she adamantly opposed the request because of Gutierrez-Reed's "sloppy mishandling of firearms and guns" on the set. She suggested Gutierrez-Reed could either move or keep a bat or pepper spray in her house instead.
...

"Rust" shooting: Weapons supervisor Hannah Gutierrez-Reed makes first court appearance

Alec Baldwin, the star of the movie, has pleaded not guilty in the on-set shooting death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

www.cbsnews.com

I watched that hearing, and I am becoming less and less impressed with the prosecutor, the more she opens her mouth. She's coming off to me as being less interested in justice-professionalism-fair play, and more interested in just pushing her agenda of the moment or trying to score points.

We saw how she responded to the defense motion shooting down the gun enhancement - she tried to act like it was some kindness of her office to pull that charge, and then went on gratuitous ad hominem attacks for the defense bringing it up at all. Not professional at all. And 100% her mistake, being corrected.

Here, when the defense made what seemed like a very reasonable, innocuous request for HGR to be able to have a gun for self-protection AT HER OWN RESIDENCE (after having agreed to basically everything else she asked as conditions for HGR to maintain until trial), she opposed the request because of what she called HGR's "sloppy mishandling of firearms and guns" on the set. Yet there has been little to nothing mentioned about sloppiness - only that HGR didn't supervise people who proved to be sloppy. HGR's attorney objected to the characterization, especially since nothing has yet to be proven, and also to the relevance since HGR only wanted to have a gun when she is at her own home, and the judge quickly sided with the HGR request. And the defense pointed out that HGR had reason to need a gun, since she was getting stalkers and death threats due to the prosecutor sloppily releasing names and addresses into public domain! (The prosecutor's counter, that HGR should just be happy to get mace or pepper spray or a club, that was embarrassingly lame imo.)

While I have thought that the charges are reasonable and the state should be able to get a conviction, I am coming to the conviction that this prosecutor is so bad that the state is probably going to get pantsed anyhow. IMO. Not sure if this is the A team (if so, that's not good) or if NM has handed this off to their C team because they are more about doing a show that there is a trial, so they have to use up someone's time to do it, and less about feeling any need to win the case.

 

[Betty P]

I watched that hearing, and I am becoming less and less impressed with the prosecutor, the more she opens her mouth. She's coming off to me as being less interested in justice-professionalism-fair play, and more interested in just pushing her agenda of the moment or trying to score points.

We saw how she responded to the defense motion shooting down the gun enhancement - she tried to act like it was some kindness of her office to pull that charge, and then went on gratuitous ad hominem attacks for the defense bringing it up at all. Not professional at all. And 100% her mistake, being corrected.

Here, when the defense made what seemed like a very reasonable, innocuous request for HGR to be able to have a gun for self-protection AT HER OWN RESIDENCE (after having agreed to basically everything else she asked as conditions for HGR to maintain until trial), she opposed the request because of what she called HGR's "sloppy mishandling of firearms and guns" on the set. Yet there has been little to nothing mentioned about sloppiness - only that HGR didn't supervise people who proved to be sloppy. HGR's attorney objected to the characterization, especially since nothing has yet to be proven, and also to the relevance since HGR only wanted to have a gun when she is at her own home, and the judge quickly sided with the HGR request. And the defense pointed out that HGR had reason to need a gun, since she was getting stalkers and death threats due to the prosecutor sloppily releasing names and addresses into public domain! (The prosecutor's counter, that HGR should just be happy to get mace or pepper spray or a club, that was embarrassingly lame imo.)

While I have thought that the charges are reasonable and the state should be able to get a conviction, I am coming to the conviction that this prosecutor is so bad that the state is probably going to get pantsed anyhow. IMO. Not sure if this is the A team (if so, that's not good) or if NM has handed this off to their C team because they are more about doing a show that there is a trial, so they have to use up someone's time to do it, and less about feeling any need to win the case.

JMO, I think they’re very sincere about wanting to get a conviction, but are turning it all into a show trial. The citizens seem to have elected some people who aren’t good at their job. They don’t seem rational.

 

[Dotta]

Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed convinces judge to let her keep gun

Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed convinced a judge to allow her to keep a gun at home while on bail. Halyna Hutchins was shot and killed by Alec Baldwin on the film set in October 2021.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[PrairieWind]

I watched that hearing, and I am becoming less and less impressed with the prosecutor, the more she opens her mouth. She's coming off to me as being less interested in justice-professionalism-fair play, and more interested in just pushing her agenda of the moment or trying to score points.

We saw how she responded to the defense motion shooting down the gun enhancement - she tried to act like it was some kindness of her office to pull that charge, and then went on gratuitous ad hominem attacks for the defense bringing it up at all. Not professional at all. And 100% her mistake, being corrected.

Here, when the defense made what seemed like a very reasonable, innocuous request for HGR to be able to have a gun for self-protection AT HER OWN RESIDENCE (after having agreed to basically everything else she asked as conditions for HGR to maintain until trial), she opposed the request because of what she called HGR's "sloppy mishandling of firearms and guns" on the set. Yet there has been little to nothing mentioned about sloppiness - only that HGR didn't supervise people who proved to be sloppy. HGR's attorney objected to the characterization, especially since nothing has yet to be proven, and also to the relevance since HGR only wanted to have a gun when she is at her own home, and the judge quickly sided with the HGR request. And the defense pointed out that HGR had reason to need a gun, since she was getting stalkers and death threats due to the prosecutor sloppily releasing names and addresses into public domain! (The prosecutor's counter, that HGR should just be happy to get mace or pepper spray or a club, that was embarrassingly lame imo.)

While I have thought that the charges are reasonable and the state should be able to get a conviction, I am coming to the conviction that this prosecutor is so bad that the state is probably going to get pantsed anyhow. IMO. Not sure if this is the A team (if so, that's not good) or if NM has handed this off to their C team because they are more about doing a show that there is a trial, so they have to use up someone's time to do it, and less about feeling any need to win the case.

I'm a bit confused as to who is prosecuting this case. The DA got a special prosecutor appointed but the DA still seems to be calling the shots. And she seems to be a total jerk. I think HGR has a lot to answer for, but blowing off her safety claims AFTER the state maybe dropped the ball on releasing some personal information just seems petty.

 

[Cool Cats]

I'm a bit confused as to who is prosecuting this case. The DA got a special prosecutor appointed but the DA still seems to be calling the shots. And she seems to be a total jerk. I think HGR has a lot to answer for, but blowing off her safety claims AFTER the state maybe dropped the ball on releasing some personal information just seems petty.

And her verbal attack against Alec's attorneys when they filed a motion to drop her illegal gun enhancement charge where she was incompetent in filing it. She is a real piece of work.

 

[PrairieWind]

And her verbal attack against Alec's attorneys when they filed a motion to drop her illegal gun enhancement charge where she was incompetent in filing it. She is a real piece of work.

Exactly. Defense attorneys file motions to dismiss all the time. Does she always react this way?

 

[10ofRods]

I'll agree that the DA is a bit...off base.

Early on in this case, there was speculation (and joking) that the DA would be too "Alec-friendly" as she moved in some of the same social circles. IMO.

So she chose her opposite as a Special Prosecutor. And that didn't work out as perhaps she planned.

The following article is typical of the spin put on the politics of this case:

Joy Behar says Alec Baldwin was charged because the Democratic DA in New Mexico is a ‘big Republican’

“The View” host Joy Behar’s defense of actor Alec Baldwin was a big misfire. The liberal comedian said Friday on the ABC show Baldwin was being charged with involuntary slaughter …

www.nydailynews.com

Santa Fe County has a total population of around 150,000 (which is the size of the town I live in).