Hank Croslin Jr Talks

[LaLaw2000]

GGm has placed herself at the scene also...I do not believe she is telling the truth about what happened at the MH either. Guess it's a catch 22...if placing yourself at the scene is a confession...we have two perps.

Exactly!!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

GGm has placed herself at the scene also...I do not believe she is telling the truth about what happened at the MH either. Guess it's a catch 22...if placing yourself at the scene is a confession...we have two perps.

Again...those hours are not in question. I do believe GGS and I honestly believe that LE does as well.

Lindsey stated that LE asked her about the 4 hours they said were in question which were right before the 911 call.

 

[minazoe]

He's a break-in thief..i think all the answers are glaring at us....he considers himself a pro. he blocked open the door and used the door that is not in clear view, one with a ramp. He was going to steal something and then he could tell Ron that he went by the house and no one was there...then Misty could get blamed...no one would know it was him.

But they were there...and he took that baby for sex.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

This statement tells me that they DO believe her:

Bowling said it is the first time anyone has said they were at the mobile home after Cummings' grandmother Annette Sykes left about 7:30 p.m.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/me...r_no_one_came_to_door_night_of_haleighs_disap BBM

 

[LaLaw2000]

Just about everything is a matter of intrepretation.

ETA: Spelling! Trying to talk on the phone and post!

 

[Muffet]

I don't understand why so many are painting Ron's call as making Tommy more likely to think Ron would be more safely out of his way that night than any other night.

Tommy already knew Ron was at work that night, like most others, probably. Heck, he was there that afternoon after Ron left for work.

If anything, wouldn't knowing Ron was worried and looking for Misty make it more likely that Ron would come home unexpectedly?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

He's a break-in thief..i think all the answers are glaring at us....he considers himself a pro. he blocked open the door and used the door that is not in clear view, one with a ramp. He was going to steal something and then he could tell Ron that he went by the house and no one was there...then Misty could get blamed...no one would know it was him.

But they were there...and he took that baby for sex.

I have to agree! It is staring us right in the face. The answers ARE there.

 

[stilettos]

Again...those hours are not in question. I do believe GGS and I honestly believe that LE does as well.

Lindsey stated that LE asked her about the 4 hours they said were in question which were right before the 911 call.

My post was in response to the rationale that stating you were there at some point is tantamount to a confession. Misty was there, Granny said she was there and now Tommy. RC made sure he was not there, working later than usual and making the all important run for nuts, ciggies and beer when you have been wondering where your children and teen babysitter are...maybe he already knew where they were and Tommy did not?

 

[KOOL LOOK]

This is not the first time I have seen someone state that Tommmy has basically confessed...wonder where that talking point started? I have yet to see LE release a statement about it....did I miss something?

No one claimed he was confessing about anything especially taking Haleigh. I think he did go to the mh after he learned that Ronald was working. I believe he is not telling the truth about what happened after he arrived at the mh. He does place himself at the scene and there is no way around it.

So just so I'm clear... we are to take the word of this common THIEF that he was there... but not that Misty was not...... :waitasec:

arrot:

GGm has placed herself at the scene also...I do not believe she is telling the truth about what happened at the MH either. Guess it's a catch 22...if placing yourself at the scene is a confession...we have two perps.

That's not what you said in your post above. I was the one asked the question by gypsyblue, I answered "Nope" in reply. SS was attempting to clear up the talking point you referred to as a talking point.

No one here has offered Hank confessed, and it's mere mention has been from you and gypsyblue, no others, to be clear.

Hey everyone, just saw a Nancy Grace Facebook update that says it is reported that Misty just skipped town after a fight with Ronald!

Sure isn't what I saw yesterday on the departing video between the two of them. This is a perfect example of how the reporting has been less than credible in this case. Unless there is some reasonable explanation in the contrast of the video yesterday and the statement on ng's facebook today. Crazy :crazy:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't understand why so many are painting Ron's call as making Tommy more likely to think Ron wouldn't be home that night than any other night.

Tommy already knew Ron was at work that night, like most others, probably. Heck, he was there that afternoon after Ron left for work.

If anything, wouldn't knowing Ron was worried and looking for Misty make it more likely that Ron would come home unexpectedly?

Ronald had to work later than usual that night which meant he probably told Tommy that information on the phone when he called to see if Misty was at his house. He didn't ask Tommy to go check on them so he would not have expected a phone call back from Tommy. If Ronald were going to come home early to check on Misty...he would have already been there, imo.

 

[stilettos]

That's not what you said in your post above. I was the one asked the question by gypsyblue, I answered "Nope" in reply. SS was attempting to clear up the talking point you referred to as a talking point.

No one here has offered Hank that confessed, and it's mere mention has been from you and gypsyblue, no others, to be clear.



Sure isn't what I saw yesterday on the departing video between the two of them. This is a perfect example of how the reporting has been less than credible in this case. Unless there is some reasonable explanation in the contrast of the video yesterday and the statement on ng's facebook today. Crazy :crazy:

Actually KOOL...the statement that "Tommy placing himself at the MH is basically a confession" was made here at WS, it may have been deleted...but it was made. That is what we are referring to....so sorry you were confused by the post about it.

 

[Muffet]

Ronald had to work later than usual that night which meant he probably told Tommy that information on the phone when he called to see if Misty was at his house. He didn't ask Tommy to go check on them so he would not have expected a phone call back from Tommy. If Ronald were going to come home early to check on Misty...he would have already been there, imo.

Later than usual was after midnight. And I don't see any reason to believe Ron wouldn't come home at 10 if he had fought with Misty at 8:30, tried repeatedly to reach her, finally called her family, and had not heard back from them.

 

[Donjeta]

Again...those hours are not in question. I do believe GGS and I honestly believe that LE does as well.

Lindsey stated that LE asked her about the 4 hours they said were in question which were right before the 911 call.

11:30ish to 3:27? Wonder where the time 11:30 comes from.

I don't think LE asking Lindsy about the night time necessarily means that GGMS was telling the truth. More likely it just means that Lindsy and/or Tommy's (or somebody who lived with them) timeline was vulnerable in the night hours. Just guessing here but it's possible that they may have had an alibi of sorts until that point. If neighbors were awake they might have seen the lights on at their house, heard noises, seen them move in the yard or in the lit windows, but if the neighbors went to bed at about 11.30 pm. then Lindsy and Tommy would have relied on each other for their alibi.

(Not saying GGMS lied, just that we can't draw any secure conclusions about GGMS from what they ask Lindsy.)

 

[LaLaw2000]

We certainly do not know that Ronald didn't ask Tommy to go over to the MH and check to see if Misty was home. On the other hand, we do not know that he did. It all boils down to just who we each believe.

I have been on this Haleigh forum since the first post and I know that when some things are stated as fact it sticks and is often presented as a fact when it really is not. This happens often.

I happen to believe Tommy in this case and others do not. Simple as that. As for him being a thief - maybe so, BUT the gun was returned to it's owner in a matter of hours and the owner did not press charges right away. I have seen Tommy's record and it is not as alarming as some of these people's.

JMO, MOO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

My post was in response to the rationale that stating you were there at some point is tantamount to a confession. Misty was there, Granny said she was there and now Tommy. RC made sure he was not there, working later than usual and making the all important run for nuts, ciggies and beer when you have been wondering where your children and teen babysitter are...maybe he already knew where they were and Tommy did not?

Not just at ANY point. He has now moved himself up in the timeline to be at the mh around or nearest to the time Haleigh went missing. She was not missing when GGS left at 7:30pm, imo.

Ronald did not make sure he was not there. He simply went to work and now we know they have at least 20 calls on his record to show he was definitely at work according to Gary Bowling. I would have to assume his boss told him he was going to work late and he didn't just stay for the heck of it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Later than usual was after midnight. And I don't see any reason to believe Ron wouldn't come home at 10 if he had fought with Misty at 8:30, tried repeatedly to reach her, finally called her family, and had not heard back from them.

Maybe because he didn't want to lose his job by taking off that night?!

 

[LaLaw2000]

We do not know what Ronald did or did not do, IMO.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I am going to back out of here for a little while and catch up on some other threads. There are many I keep up with each day.

This is just me, but I do believe Tommy in this instance because he has too much to lose not to tell the truth and cooperate with LE, and that is just what I think he is doing.

IMO, JMO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

We do know this much of what Ronald did according to Bowling.:

"He had tried more than 20 times, and those calls went unanswered," sheriff's Maj. Gary Bowling said Monday, citing telephone records obtained by authorities.

At the time, Hank Croslin Jr. lived down the street from the home rented by Ronald Cummings, who called from work and asked him "to go down and check on Misty," Bowling said.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/09/22/news/news01.txt BBM

 

[Novice Seeker]

This statement tells me that they DO believe her:

Bowling said it is the first time anyone has said they were at the mobile home after Cummings' grandmother Annette Sykes left about 7:30 p.m.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/me...r_no_one_came_to_door_night_of_haleighs_disap BBM

I'm confused. How does what statement tell whom that they do believe her?
What I got from that story was someone went by to check on Misty and saw nothing which disproves what Misty has said. How does TN know such detailed information about that phone call? It almost looks as if someone sat down and wrote out a script about Ronald's call to Hank Jr.

JMO
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