GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #2

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  • #921
You missed a lot. There were several Facebook pages and craigslist posts etc that dropped hints.
I wish you were here through it all. You have great insight and seem to really care. We'll continue the journey now till he rots in a jail cell.
Have you come across the statement analysis? That was fascinating.

Statement analysis
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  • #922
Haven't revisited the excellent 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 site (thank you, Mrs Obrien) but it's a mother lode and if the following comments are still intact, they're well worth mining too.
 
  • #923
Thanks for your well thought out analysis of this case, Pua. I have forgotten so many details over the months. I agree with you that Charli was probably killed at/near SC's home/land. I remember her mom or sister saying she wouldn't have gone to Keanae because, for one thing, she was very low on gas and no station near her would have been open on Sunday night. The only one who said she went was SC, and I'm with you in that he was busy "planting Easter eggs".
Thanks again for rekindling this discussion.
I remember an interview in which her sister said that she was "exhausted" when she left her house that night. Clearly. And I also remember that the ONLY source for the often quoted "my truck broke down" story was SC himself.

Exhausted quote: http://mauinow.com/2014/02/12/search-for-maui-woman-focuses-on-nahiku-area/
 
  • #924
Kimberly Scott's interview points to him having long time issues with being "tied" to Charli-- no photos wanted of the couple, no admitting they were a couple even while living together. And she wants to have his baby long after they broke up? Sounds like that would be intolerable to a guy who couldn't handle a lu'au photo being taken back when they were together.

Snipped by me.

Was it ever known whether the pregnancy was a total accident or that if Charli wanted it to happen? I mean that's a pretty dumb question, it was most likely completely accidental. But I have heard arrogant people wanting to get out of child support claim that, "She poked holes in the condom!" or "She told me she was on birth control!"

I could see how SC could start to believe that, seeing as how Charli wanted to keep the baby and was excited about becoming a mother. I could see how someone twisted enough to take a person's life could see that as justification or some sort of motive...
 
  • #925
I could see how a twisted person could not care if they might get someone pregnant because they think that person would have to have an abortion and they don't care if that person has to go through that. Then is furious when it doesn't go how they thought and they can't control the person
 
  • #926
Just an observation, I know I read that MSAR catalogued the clothing found on the beach by the sister because the tide was coming in and they didn't want to lose it. The sister was not alone in her search that day, she had professional searchers with her.

I also read that one of the sisters said Steven went searching down the path leading to the river by himself at his urging. When asked what the smell was, the article stated that a searcher ran ahead and said it was the carcass of a boar. No one went any further up river. Was the searcher Steven?

On 12/8/14 on the FCS facebook page, the mom wrote a tragic requiem saying the police showed her where Charli and Joshua had been and the mom and sister clawed at the earth, soaked in her blood where she lay bleeding. So that leads me to believe the police have a pretty good idea her body was there.
 
  • #927
According to the arson charge the crime occured in her car. Considering they released info that her bra was slashed in her left armpit and right breast, I think he drove her to Paraquats and fatally injured her and Joshua there in the car. The front seat space is restrictive and her left arm might go up if she tried to defend herself. I think he left her body there, with her phone and hid her car in Haiku. When they showed up at his job, he might have returned for the body and transported her in his car in the dark, dropping some items. Why they released all of this information pre-trial makes no sense to me.

Btw the road that leads to the down to the river is just two tire tracks in the bushes.
 
  • #928
Welcome Lolo, thank you for joining us!
 
  • #929
Is Nuaʻailua Bay, Paraquat's Beach and Honomanu Bay basically all the same place?
 
  • #930
Just an observation, I know I read that MSAR catalogued the clothing found on the beach by the sister because the tide was coming in and they didn't want to lose it. The sister was not alone in her search that day, she had professional searchers with her.

I also read that one of the sisters said Steven went searching down the path leading to the river by himself at his urging. When asked what the smell was, the article stated that a searcher ran ahead and said it was the carcass of a boar. No one went any further up river. Was the searcher Steven?

On 12/8/14 on the FCS facebook page, the mom wrote a tragic requiem saying the police showed her where Charli and Joshua had been and the mom and sister clawed at the earth, soaked in her blood where she lay bleeding. So that leads me to believe the police have a pretty good idea her body was there.

It was my understanding the sister took the clothes to police station. I may be wrong, but professional searchers would not have knowingly let that happen. I say that with no disrespect to the sister. I would have done the same thing. I posed the question a few posts back that I don't think that should matter but I won't go into that.

I would like to know if Steven was in fact the person that said it was a boar carcass. Or a buddy of his.

My interpretation of the FCS post by the mother was more of a metaphor. She is a beautiful poet. I read it as, they were shown where the jaw bone was found. Not that there was a large amount of obvious blood. They collected some of the dirt to have. I read it as a poetic writing from the mother rather than hard facts. I could be wrong. That's just my interpretation.
 
  • #931
It was my understanding the sister took the clothes to police station. I may be wrong, but professional searchers would not have knowingly let that happen. I say that with no disrespect to the sister. I would have done the same thing. I posed the question a few posts back that I don't think that should matter but I won't go into that.

I would like to know if Steven was in fact the person that said it was a boar carcass. Or a buddy of his.

My interpretation of the FCS post by the mother was more of a metaphor. She is a beautiful poet. I read it as, they were shown where the jaw bone was found. Not that there was a large amount of obvious blood. They collected some of the dirt to have. I read it as a poetic writing from the mother rather than hard facts. I could be wrong. That's just my interpretation.
I need to find the article, it's a recent one but MSAR did photograph the scene. I remember early on the little sister was described as taking the clothes because the tide was coming in and the items would be swept out to sea. I've read various reports as to why she took them to the police station (and not handed them over to MSAR) but I don't think it matters. Given the fact that the crime scene was about to be comprimsed anyway, I'd probably do the same thing.

I didn't read that part about the mom taking the soil home as a metaphor. She's grieving, she wanted to feel connected. Anyway, I didn't stop lurking on here to figure out the mom. My point was more to the idea of the police keeping a lot of things close to the chest. Which is good! ;)
 
  • #932
Is Nuaʻailua Bay, Paraquat's Beach and Honomanu Bay basically all the same place?

Nope. Nua'ailua and Honomanu have streams that feed into each bay. The beach at Nua'ailua is called Paraquats. Whoever did this was probably dropping things off along the way after leaving the dog in Nahiku or vice versa.
 
  • #933
I wasn't trying to figure out the mom...your post indicated that they know the exact spot of her death because of pools of blood and not just where they found evidence.

snipped by me: you wrote, "police showed her where Charli and Joshua had been and the mom and sister clawed at the earth, soaked in her blood where she lay bleeding."

I'm questioning whether that is fact because my interpretation was that it was a metaphoric poem which the mother is amazing at.

Also is does matter quite a bit what happens with the clothes the sister found. If they deem it un submittable to the jury they lose a huge piece of evidence that ties in the extra charge for life.

Thank you for your posts and thoughts Lolo, we are thrilled you joined.
 
  • #934
The sister coulda lit the clothes on fire and screamed never stopped and I'd say she did the right thing. She was brave. For all she knew the killer coulda been there watching her. LE shoulda found the clothes. I wonder how long it would take LE to drive out Hana Highway and meet them at the evidence. I think this part of the case will be one of the worst. I hope we're all real careful what we write about her here and really I think it would be better not to write more about her here
 
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It says "Although an April 27 trial date was set for a man accused of murdering his ex-pregnant girlfriend, his attorney said Monday it appeared unlikely that the trial would begin then." I hope that helps.
 
  • #938
I agree with them. The public doesn't need to know those details. I for one didn't want to know her last minutes on earth were spent Being tortured. Some judges order everyone to keep their mouths shut, I forgot the legal term. Lol but that's what they need here.
 
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Just an observation, I know I read that MSAR catalogued the clothing found on the beach by the sister because the tide was coming in and they didn't want to lose it. The sister was not alone in her search that day, she had professional searchers with her.

I also read that one of the sisters said Steven went searching down the path leading to the river by himself at his urging. When asked what the smell was, the article stated that a searcher ran ahead and said it was the carcass of a boar. No one went any further up river. Was the searcher Steven?

On 12/8/14 on the FCS facebook page, the mom wrote a tragic requiem saying the police showed her where Charli and Joshua had been and the mom and sister clawed at the earth, soaked in her blood where she lay bleeding. So that leads me to believe the police have a pretty good idea her body was there.
Thanks so much for posting all this new information about the site and the search. Can you possibly post links to the things you have read when you mention them, so that we can look at the original source?

I went to the FCS Facebook page for that date, and I can't find that post. I remember reading a poem a while back, maybe this one? Do you have a copy of that post saved?
 
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