GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #4

[Nikki Lisette]

I was one of the posters that thought she'd been shot. I couldn't figure out how he got her jawbone off otherwise. I didn't want to believe he beat her or stab her because it's messy and it's brutal.

To think he beat her so badly that his knuckles were bruised and still numb days later is out of my of reality. And yet he can't even face his accusers like a man, hardly daring to turn to the right for fear he might catch a glimpse those that hate him.

If you're of the Christian faith or a believer, I'm asking for a collective prayer for the Scott family to be steadfast and like a rock when they sit before their baby's murderer. http://biblehub.com/james/5-16.htm

Before I go to bed tonight, I will admit that everytime the two counsels approached the bench for a sidebar, I hoped for a confession from Steven and that all of this would be over. Still hoping.

 

[Alohaj]

Thanks Pua. I've been a little harsh on the colloquialism that is Maui, drives me nuts.

I looked up the weather (weatherunderground) and moon phase (moonpage.com) for February 9, 2014 at 9:30pm, for the Keanae Penisula. Steven had very few scattered clouds, a high ceiling of visibility and a moon at 81%. In other words, he had a lot of light. It was dry too, only 61% humidity for the area around Charli's Bridge.

That night, I left Hana at 8pm heading to Wailuku. It was a nice night, fair amount of traffic on the road. Did not see any vehicle on the side of the road, nor did I see one the day before when I drove out to Hana. I also know a police officer that was coming back from the airport from a trip that night at the same time, he also didn't see any vehicle and he was the officer assigned to Keanae as their community officer at the time. None of the residents of Keanae or Hana that were questioned recalled seeing a broken down vehicle. I've never heard it mentioned anywhere, where exactly his broken down truck was supposed to be . Hana highway? Paraqut bay road?

I called MPD and told them I was on the road that night. So did the officer that was off duty and driving back to Hana from the airport. I also know the officer that found Nalu, and he told me that the dog was clean as a whistle, there's no way that dog travelled from Keanae to Hana, he was too clean, his paws werent worn down or muddy, dirty or anything. I know that at this time he is not going to be called to testify, which is a shame. That dog did not get there on his own.

I heard a rumor, unsubstantiated but from a friend of the family, that SC's phone pinged later that night in Nahiku. I guess if that is true we will probably hear it in testimony.

I used to drive that road alone at night often, and enjoyed how dark and quiet it was, and how bright the stars could be. I would sometimes pull my car on the side of the road when it was at its darkest, turn off my engine and listen to the silence while looking at the carpet of stars up above. I've driven that road at one in the morning alone heading back to Wailuku after visiting my family out there. Now, I will never drive that road alone at night again. The road to Hana will never be the same to me. I have a family member that is a friend of Kimberlyn, and knew Charli, and Kimberlyn had been at their wedding just a few months before Charli was murdered . So terribly devastating for all of them

 

[puakenikeni]

Thank you alohaj and Nikki, I'm much moved by what you wrote tonight, and feel the pain.
I hope so much that the cell records show a Nahiku ping for Steven.

My thought today, after hearing about the serrated knife, is once again that he had help with the more physical brutal part. He's not that strong, doesn't hunt pig, doesn't fish. He's a vegetarian. A baker, not a butcher. I was raised a vegetarian myself, and I could never cut up an animal, much less a person. It's something you learn to do early in life I think, raised as a hunter to look at butchery as a life skill.
He's in no way innocent, but he may have delegated some of it, does anyone think that?
In any case, I get a sense of a guy who was simmering with fury over having a baby coming against his will. The Scott family has said Steven hated his mother. He seems to have wanted to close the door on bringing up children and lock it out of his life permanently. And why did he not care for Charli? She seems the most amazing beautiful person to me. But he hated her family. Maybe they had everything he never did.

 

[Mamamerced]

I had promised myself I wouldn't speculate about this case any more as it's exhausting and largely fruitless. However, I've broken many promises. I can see SC doing this carnage on his own. One look at his face in court tells you he seethes with barely buried anger, jealousy, distrust, hate, etc. He had a hidden, serrated blade as a feature of his belt buckle. He had tried to get Charli up the Hana hwy a month or so(?) prior to the murder. He had 6 hours from when Charli left her sister's until SC phoned/skyped the gf in Pennsylvania plus more unaccounted for time after that. Charli got in his way about something or somethings. The baby, and all of the attendant complications, was obviously a main concern. There may have been another, or others, we don't know about. I have speculated about another unwanted connection with a few of you WSs, but I won't go into it now. So, even though SC's build is on the slight side (I know many strong vegetarians with energy plus) I think he is capable of this massacre on his own. And it was bungled.
That being said, I often consider the possibility that he had help, at least afterwards. What are the chances he has an equally deranged, demented friend or family member, though? Could conceivably be someone who is adept at butchering pigs, for example. We have toyed with this idea off and on. Or someone to help hide and burn the car? If there were something more at stake than fatherhood, which seems so personal, I can see him possibly having help. I keep hearing "she had a mouth on her". What's that all about? Maybe it's part of the "big lie" Apo teased about in court, if there is any substance at all to his saying that. Remember how Apo challenged the PP witness about... what if Steven could prove he was at work the day the witness claimed he was at the clinic with Charli? Apo totally backed off on that when Rivera objected. The was nothing to it but potential discrediting-the-witness crumbs for the jury. May be the same bluff with the "big lie".
Who knows?

 

[Kapua]

I had promised myself I wouldn't speculate about this case any more as it's exhausting and largely fruitless. However, I've broken many promises. I can see SC doing this carnage on his own. One look at his face in court tells you he seethes with barely buried anger, jealousy, distrust, hate, etc. He had a hidden, serrated blade as a feature of his belt buckle. He had tried to get Charli up the Hana hwy a month or so(?) prior to the murder. He had 6 hours from when Charli left her sister's until SC phoned/skyped the gf in Pennsylvania plus more unaccounted for time after that. Charli got in his way about something or somethings. The baby, and all of the attendant complications, was obviously a main concern. There may have been another, or others, we don't know about. I have speculated about another unwanted connection with a few of you WSs, but I won't go into it now. So, even though SC's build is on the slight side (I know many strong vegetarians with energy plus) I think he is capable of this massacre on his own. And it was bungled.
That being said, I often consider the possibility that he had help, at least afterwards. What are the chances he has an equally deranged, demented friend or family member, though? Could conceivably be someone who is adept at butchering pigs, for example. We have toyed with this idea off and on. Or someone to help hide and burn the car? If there were something more at stake than fatherhood, which seems so personal, I can see him possibly having help. I keep hearing "she had a mouth on her". What's that all about? Maybe it's part of the "big lie" Apo teased about in court, if there is any substance at all to his saying that. Remember how Apo challenged the PP witness about... what if Steven could prove he was at work the day the witness claimed he was at the clinic with Charli? Apo totally backed off on that when Rivera objected. The was nothing to it but potential discrediting-the-witness crumbs for the jury. May be the same bluff with the "big lie".
Who knows?

At one time, early on in the investigation, I thought he had abandoned Charli's vehicle and let the locals do the dirty work of stripping and burning it. After he was charged with arson, I felt as though MPD must have evidence to the contrary and changed my mind based on the arson arrest. I think he acted alone. I hate to think that there's anyone else evil enough to go along with this.

 

[puakenikeni]

MM, I'm so glad you stepped back into the speculation zone. True that many theories will fall by the wayside as evidence comes out that changes the set of facts, but that's OK and doesn't make the thinking pointless.

I do see the Steven you describe, the one full of hate and fury. Also you point out that the job was not executed well, so that could support the "acted alone" theory, for sure. And yes, he carried a serrated knife, another excellent point. I guess my question is what was he in the habit of using his knife for, to do flesh carving or was it more an attempt at macho to carry it? I know guys who always carry a knife as an all purpose tool, but could never use it on a person. I know of other guys in this culture who have pulled out a knife and stabbed people on very little provocation.

Dismembering a whole human body is a big gruesome job though, for someone who does not hunt or fish and cut up the spoils routinely, but it is not a big deal to those who do, on Maui, pig hunters being the prime example of a common reason to have those skills.

 

[Mamamerced]

Agree, that's why I bounce to and fro. It is a big job, as you say, to dismember a human body and I don't think he did it with the belt buckle knife. Other knives, probably; other person/s, possibly. Didn't someone on WS say jawbones were taken by pig hunters as trophies? Why deflesh it.....do you have any ideas?

It's painful to watch the constantly interrupted streamed video. Anyone else having problems? I have satellite wifi...one of the joys of rural living...so it may just be my set-up.

 

[Plumeria5]

Link to live trial coverage.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/298682/live-stream-special

 

[Plumeria5]

Agree, that's why I bounce to and fro. It is a big job, as you say, to dismember a human body and I don't think he did it with the belt buckle knife. Other knives, probably; other person/s, possibly. Didn't someone on WS say jawbones were taken by pig hunters as trophies? Why deflesh it.....do you have any ideas?

It's painful to watch the constantly interrupted streamed video. Anyone else having problems? I have satellite wifi...one of the joys of rural living...so it may just be my set-up.

I just started watching but so far not having problems with stream.

 

[Nikki Lisette]

Anyone else surprised by his soft-spoken, prep school English? What? No local boy accent?

 

[puakenikeni]

Defleshing for purpose of disposing of evidence that can be identified, I don't know at all. As part of the murder, driven by his emotions, I get the sense that he wanted to obliterate her, perhaps for daring to act on her own desires in life and not do as he said. There seems to be a fury against her mouth, which may have said some things he could not get past.

Accounts of of the two of them together that's e have heard do not reflect a Charli who is constantly "sassing" him. She was intimidated at PP. Her mother tells of her serving him and trying to please by cooking his favorites. She loved and he did not reciprocate. That doesn't jibe too well with the mouth on her he mentioned. Perhaps she finally found the voice to defy him and it could not be permitted.

 

[Nikki Lisette]

For someone born and raised on Maui... I am surprised by his accent.

 

[Nikki Lisette]

"F--king unicorn" in regards to his description of the tattoo on her thigh. Wow. And yeah, tongue ring.

 

[Plumeria5]

For someone born and raised on Maui... I am surprised by his accent.

Me, too. Has he lived in Hawaii all his life?

 

[Mamamerced]

Well, wasn't he nonchalant and oh-so eager/helpful!
His voice wasn't what I expected, either.
Did I really hear him say something like..... I certainly wouldn't harm my child.
He seemed to be squirming and possibly trying to control his breathing at certain points in the interview...anyone else see that?

 

[puakenikeni]

For someone born and raised on Maui... I am surprised by his accent.

Totally surprised by his voice. Well, I know plenty of born and raised (mostly haole like Steven but not all) who didn't pick up the accent. Sometimes the family won't allow it. I have one friend whose father said it would mark her down classwise if she spoke with the accent and would damage her chances for a white collar career later in life.
Most such people I know CAN and do speak local and even pidgin when they are talking to others doing the same, but use standard English when that is what fits best.

its very hard for me to hear that and think of that voice belonging to someone who did those heinous acts.

 

[Mamamerced]

Anyone else surprised by his soft-spoken, prep school English? What? No local boy accent?

Really! Apo has a much more pronounced accent than SC.

 

[puakenikeni]

Well, wasn't he nonchalant and oh-so eager/helpful!
His voice wasn't what I expected, either.
Did I really hear him say something like..... I certainly wouldn't harm my child.
He seemed to be squirming and possibly trying to control his breathing at certain points in the interview...anyone else see that?

yes, he was much more eager and expressive than in his HNN interview, by which time he sounded sullen.
yes, he did say that about his child, amazing.

yes, he looked in court like he was using all his effort to keep himself from exploding or something. He was swallowing hard too.
Remember how he told HNN he didn't want his voice coming out of the speakers of TVs all over the island? He must hate this. He seems to have major issues about controlling how parts of himself are taken out of his own control. His sperm, his voice ...
ed. Clamping down on his emotions was how his physical response looked to me. He looked seriously under stress, a big change in his affect.

 

[puakenikeni]

Really! Apo has a much more pronounced accent than SC.

steven's mother is haole and not born on the island. I don't know if SC was born here or not, but a lot depends on what you hear at home, and I guess the neighborhood as well as school.

 

[Loio]

steven's mother is haole and not born on the island. I don't know if SC was born here or not, but a lot depends on what you hear at home, and I guess the neighborhood as well as school.

Steven said in the interview with Detective Loo that he was born at Maui Memorial. Born and raised on Maui, no discernible accent, I'm impressed but that's where my admiration ends.